Titan Class Tidal Wave Revealed at Cybertron Fest 2023 in Singapore
Friday, December 8th, 2023 11:05PM CST
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We should be seeing him in stores in the summer with a price just under $200 depending on the whims of the stores. We can probably expect a bigger reveal in the coming days and an upload of the video played at the show. Thanks to Seibertronian Rodimus Prime for the heads up!
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Posted by Gauntlet101010 on December 8th, 2023 @ 11:29pm CST
Posted by Dr. Caelus on December 8th, 2023 @ 11:40pm CST
I'm anxious to see him in a line up though.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on December 9th, 2023 @ 12:43am CST
Posted by blackeyedprime on December 9th, 2023 @ 1:42am CST
Looks like I was right (a rarity haha) on it including parts to add to megatron, not sure it includes enough parts though. I still don't want to buy that megatron so I'll have to see if they can add on to original armada megatron. Would be nice if the parts turned into a bot weaponiser style.
If they release a ram jet for tidal wave that will be a definite buy for me as long as it isn't just a repaint of core rotb guy in power suit (which might work well enough for it)
Posted by Dino-Snarl on December 9th, 2023 @ 5:30am CST
Posted by Mkdlmr on December 9th, 2023 @ 5:39am CST
Posted by Quantum Surge on December 9th, 2023 @ 8:23am CST
Posted by Sculyblast on December 9th, 2023 @ 8:24am CST
I am missing innovation.
Like many legacy figures, especially in the armada line, I don't see how this improves on the original.
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on December 9th, 2023 @ 8:30am CST
Quantum Surge wrote:I can hear his boss theme play after seeing this.
Glad I’m not the only one who instantly thinks of the Amara’s Ps2 game. That game was, and is still a masterpiece that holds up shockingly well.
Posted by Emerje on December 9th, 2023 @ 9:18am CST
blackeyedprime wrote:Looks like I was right (a rarity haha) on it including parts to add to megatron, not sure it includes enough parts though. I still don't want to buy that megatron so I'll have to see if they can add on to original armada megatron. Would be nice if the parts turned into a bot weaponiser style.
I didn't notice this before, but apparently Ben Custom Toys had more of the Hasbro video posted. This was on TFW2005 and that sure is an awful lot of moving parts for simple snap on armor. Could they really be including a smaller Tidal Wave in this set that scales taller than Leader Megatron? The part on his back that forms the legs takes up Megatron's entire back and then some. The part to the right would form the arms it's pretty massive and the part to the left would be the torso which is a little flat, but seems rather wide. Looks like Hasbro is still saving some secrets for later but that's one heck of a bonus!
Sculyblast wrote:Am I missing something, or is this just simply a scaled up version of armada tidal wave?
I am missing innovation.
Like many legacy figures, especially in the armada line, I don't see how this improves on the original.
For starters it has knees...
(BTW, changed the topic title because I was tired and kinda goofed by posting the news to this thread instead of the Legacy thread so this'll be the official thread for Titan Tidal Wave similar to what we do with most Masterpiece figures. Thankfully we had talked a little about a potential Tidal Wave in this thread previously.)
Emerje
Posted by noctorro on December 9th, 2023 @ 10:16am CST
Next prediction:
- Titan Overlord
- Titan Fortress Maximus (not a retool)
This Tidalwave looks amazing! Glad he has a wonky base mode, I love basemodes!
Just a great character for a Titan.
<3 to the Playstation 2 game, still great!
Posted by Emerje on December 9th, 2023 @ 10:35am CST
noctorro wrote:Called it 2 years ago.
Next prediction:
- Titan Overlord
- Titan Fortress Maximus (not a retool)
This Tidalwave looks amazing! Glad he has a wonky base mode, I love basemodes!
Just a great character for a Titan.
<3 to the Playstation 2 game, still great!
Is there some story where Overlord would make sense at that size? I feel like he has a lot of Commander class potential, but is too simple for a Titan.
Emerje
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 9th, 2023 @ 10:47am CST
Agreed 100%. I hope we get a toy colored version maybe in Selects. We did get Black Zarak and Omega Sentinel so it's possible.Stormshot_Prime wrote:Quantum Surge wrote:I can hear his boss theme play after seeing this.
Glad I’m not the only one who instantly thinks of the Amara’s Ps2 game. That game was, and is still a masterpiece that holds up shockingly well.
As for Overlord, he would not make sense as a titan, but a commander would be perfect for him.
Posted by Overcracker on December 9th, 2023 @ 12:28pm CST
Still sad there’s mo Ramjet though.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 9th, 2023 @ 1:06pm CST
I suggested in the other thread they could have made Ramjet instead of this smaller TW and have that combine with Megatron. It wouldn't have been exactly like the original but it would have made more sense.Overcracker wrote:So, there’s a secondary smaller Tidal-Wave inside hus torso. No doubt thus is the one that actually combines with Megatron.
Still sad there’s mo Ramjet though.
Posted by Overcracker on December 9th, 2023 @ 1:15pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:I suggested in the other thread they could have made Ramjet instead of this smaller TW and have that combine with Megatron. It wouldn't have been exactly like the original but it would have made more sense.Overcracker wrote:So, there’s a secondary smaller Tidal-Wave inside hus torso. No doubt thus is the one that actually combines with Megatron.
Still sad there’s mo Ramjet though.
Good idea.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 9th, 2023 @ 1:42pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:Agreed 100%. I hope we get a toy colored version maybe in Selects. We did get Black Zarak and Omega Sentinel so it's possible.Stormshot_Prime wrote:Quantum Surge wrote:I can hear his boss theme play after seeing this.
Glad I’m not the only one who instantly thinks of the Amara’s Ps2 game. That game was, and is still a masterpiece that holds up shockingly well.
... with Ramjet included. I'll see myself out now.
The way I see it, Tidal Wave combining with Megatron has made canon cartoon size-changing an official toy design problem for Hasbro and TakaraTomy. So extra parts can't be avoided. If anything, it's similar to Bandai's approach with their mechs.
Posted by Emerje on December 9th, 2023 @ 8:48pm CST
Overcracker wrote:So, there’s a secondary smaller Tidal-Wave inside hus torso. No doubt thus is the one that actually combines with Megatron.
Still sad there’s mo Ramjet though.
See my post above. It's the same one and the other parts are hidden in other areas of the figure and does seem to form a full smaller bot. Personally I prefer this to including Ramjet for a few reasons. First and foremost it would be a pretty large Mini-con to make sense with him, but also there's no reason why they can't make one later like they've done with nearly all of the other Titans' extra partners. Since they aren't likely to make a second smaller Tidal Wave on his own any time soon I think it was smart to include him like this.
It does make me question why they had to remove the Mini-Con from Cybertron Metroplex because it wasn't in the budget if they could include a second entire Tidal Wave with this one. I guess he got a bigger budget.
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on December 10th, 2023 @ 12:12pm CST
Posted by TulioDude on December 10th, 2023 @ 5:19pm CST
I'm proud of Hastak. He looks great! Tital Wave deserved a toy of this size.
Day 1440 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Posted by Overcracker on December 10th, 2023 @ 5:22pm CST
Emerje wrote:Overcracker wrote:So, there’s a secondary smaller Tidal-Wave inside hus torso. No doubt thus is the one that actually combines with Megatron.
Still sad there’s mo Ramjet though.
See my post above. It's the same one and the other parts are hidden in other areas of the figure and does seem to form a full smaller bot. Personally I prefer this to including Ramjet for a few reasons. First and foremost it would be a pretty large Mini-con to make sense with him, but also there's no reason why they can't make one later like they've done with nearly all of the other Titans' extra partners. Since they aren't likely to make a second smaller Tidal Wave on his own any time soon I think it was smart to include him like this.
It does make me question why they had to remove the Mini-Con from Cybertron Metroplex because it wasn't in the budget if they could include a second entire Tidal Wave with this one. I guess he got a bigger budget.
Emerje
Yeah. They are giving us 2 tidal waves for the price of one.
Maybe TW is going to be more expensive than Metroplex.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 10th, 2023 @ 6:46pm CST
Only if the standard price for Titans has since Metroplex.Overcracker wrote:Maybe TW is going to be more expensive than Metroplex.
Posted by noctorro on December 11th, 2023 @ 2:28am CST
Emerje wrote:noctorro wrote:Called it 2 years ago.
Next prediction:
- Titan Overlord
- Titan Fortress Maximus (not a retool)
This Tidalwave looks amazing! Glad he has a wonky base mode, I love basemodes!
Just a great character for a Titan.
<3 to the Playstation 2 game, still great!
Is there some story where Overlord would make sense at that size? I feel like he has a lot of Commander class potential, but is too simple for a Titan.
Emerje
I agree with Overlord. However, are there any giant Transformers characters left?
Cyberverse Titan ... Croaton? Or whatever he was called.
Animated Omega Supreme (not going to happen).
Still a big ass tank and a giant black jet with a lot of headmaster interaction Overlord Titan would be cool.
Posted by noctorro on December 11th, 2023 @ 2:32am CST
The little minicon benches inside his lower leg parts. Does this Titan have the seats so that little bot dudes can have a cup of energon tea and discuss the day and how they conquered another country.
Posted by Emerje on December 11th, 2023 @ 8:46am CST
noctorro wrote:Animated Omega Supreme (not going to happen).
It stands a little bit more of a chance now that we have Prowl, Prime and Bumblebee. He'd still have a slightly non-Animated look to him, though.
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on December 11th, 2023 @ 11:50am CST
noctorro wrote:However, are there any giant Transformers characters left?
Posted by Till-all-R1 on December 11th, 2023 @ 7:39pm CST
Posted by noctorro on December 12th, 2023 @ 10:22am CST
Sabrblade wrote:noctorro wrote:However, are there any giant Transformers characters left?
Powerrangers not included :p
Posted by Sabrblade on December 12th, 2023 @ 11:22am CST
If they were, would they be eaten by that monstrocity?noctorro wrote:Powerrangers not included :p
Posted by Emerje on December 13th, 2023 @ 3:05am CST
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on December 13th, 2023 @ 10:47am CST
Or, you could just take the existing news post you made out of this thread and merge it into the Legacy thread.Emerje wrote:I don't know why I posted this here, I'm going to rewrite it for the Legacy thread and news it for the heck of it...
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on December 13th, 2023 @ 10:50pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Or, you could just take the existing news post you made out of this thread and merge it into the Legacy thread.Emerje wrote:I don't know why I posted this here, I'm going to rewrite it for the Legacy thread and news it for the heck of it...
Emerje
If I could I certainly would have, but my forum powers don't extend that far.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on December 14th, 2023 @ 9:00am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Tidal Wave designer notes from Sam Smith. Click each link to see all the pictures and videos:
https://www.instagram.com/p/C0zNOSGOACe/?img_index=1Transformers Legacy United - Titan Tidal Wave
“Tidal Wave, Tidal Wave, Tidal Wave”
With the daunting chant on impending doom and having been officially announced at Cybertron Fest Singapore, let’s get into the details of Titan Tidal Wave. With the launch of Legacy United, we knew that there was no greater time to revisit this character at the titan scale. This guy was a blast to work on, but we had so many priorities we needed to define out of the gate. As a Titan, Tidal Wave needed to deliver a large scale super articulated robot. As a vehicle, he needed to deliver a large flying aquatic war craft, which needed to be assembled out of 3 smaller vehicle form factors (the dark fleet). Tidal Wave needed to combine with Armada Megatron, to create Burning Megatron and we felt that he needed to have an alt mode that was achievable without the need to separate the vehicles in assembly. I’d like to say that we were able to achieve 4 out of the 5, but in the end, we did them all!
Shogo Hasui (Hasui san) was an absolute rockstar to work with on this project, and continued to find incredible solutions in delivering such a massive undertaking. He continued to push this figure forward despite all the curve balls that we through to him.
In the end Tidal Wave delivers a super articulated Titan robot, with waist, ankle, clever butterfly shoulders, wrist and neck. His chest weaponry all 8 turrets points are articulated for rotation, with the larger 4 featuring articulated barrels and 5mm ports for blast effect compatibility. In addition, his palm cannons also used 5mm ports that can be utilized in robot and alt mode
Tidal Waves color spec is primary based on the Armada animation with a few pieces of influence from the original toy, similar to Armada Megatron.
What are your thoughts on Titan Tidal Wave? Was he a worthy selection for the next titan figure? Our would you have preferred to have seen him at a smaller scale? Let us know along with any other questions in the comments below!
https://www.instagram.com/p/C0zNcdlO6_x/?img_index=1Transformers Legacy United - Titan Tidal Wave - Alt Mode
We decided early on, the importance of delivering the dark fleet as 3 separate vehicles to align to the original toy, and the consistent onscreen combination sequence that took place on screen. Due to this figure being super articulated, we would not be able to have him transform from robot to combined war craft without separating the vehicle forms. In order to avoid having him be referred to as a parts former, we introduced a secondary alt mode as a battle station / weapons fortress.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C0zNoMVO0Tl/?img_index=1Transformers Legacy United - Titan Tidal Wave - Combined Burning Megatron
In order to combine with Megatron to create Burning Megatron, miniature versions of the dark fleet can be extracted from various parts of Tidal Wave in order to combine. To avoid being left with a partial titan during the combination, we introduced a secondary transformation to the hands to keep them in tact so that a very in tact titan figure remains. The miniature versions are able able to be displayed as mini dark fleet vehicles, that convert into their armored accessories for Megatron.
To assist with the added weight of the components, and to deliver a more frightening Megatron, Foot extensions are included to raise the characters height, along with the ability to port the arm weaponry into the sides of the arms or the upper shoulders.
And additional info from the comments:
Posted by Emerje on December 14th, 2023 @ 9:38am CST
Emerje
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 14th, 2023 @ 10:28am CST
Posted by Overcracker on December 14th, 2023 @ 10:48am CST
Emerje wrote:Soooo, are any of the bots on the box art actually recognizable as real characters? I'm stumped though the two in the water look a little familiar. Are they generics from the Armada cartoon? I looked through Insecticons.com and didn't really see any matches.
Emerje
Can't see any that I recognize as actual characters.
I can se a brown guy on the left that appears to turn into a car.
An Impactor-ey looking dude by TW's right leg in the water. Near him someone that looks vaguely like R.I.D Tow-line.
Blue and gray, Beachcomb-ey guy. Green and purple dude on TW's knee(no clue), some guy with striped legs and a blue chest, I know I've seen the color scheme some where but can't place it. Reminds me oof G2 Spark, but it's not right, because the stripes were only in his truck mode.
Posted by Emerje on December 14th, 2023 @ 11:06am CST
Emerje
Posted by DeathReviews on December 14th, 2023 @ 11:49am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 14th, 2023 @ 11:52am CST
Because that's how it was done back in 1986-1987? Metroplex, Trypticon, Fortress Maximus, and Scorponok all played dead for their city/base modes.DeathReviews wrote:Sigh. Why is it that the battlestation/city modes for the Titan figures are always just the robot mode lying spread-eagled on their backs?
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on December 14th, 2023 @ 12:01pm CST
Plus, that box art is amazing. Totally reminiscent of the Island level from the PS2 Armada game, in which you have to fight a Titan sized Tidal Wave. Best boss in the game too.
Posted by o.supreme on December 14th, 2023 @ 12:11pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:noctorro wrote:However, are there any giant Transformers characters left?
Why does nobody look at my Signature... ....
j/k/... anyway... With Tidal Wave having a "Base Mode", one would almost assuredly think there would be AIRLOCK connectors somewhere. I mean even the Nemesis had them which wasn't necessary, but a nice touch. Anyone spot any yet? If there are none, that makes this so much easier to pass on. If there are, it will have to be an almost 1/2 off deal (Like Cybertron Metroplex). Although admittedly, this looks much better than Cybertron Metroplex.
Posted by SynchroBunny on December 14th, 2023 @ 12:39pm CST
noctorro wrote:I agree with Overlord. However, are there any giant Transformers characters left?
Cyberverse Titan ... Croaton? Or whatever he was called.
Animated Omega Supreme (not going to happen).
G1 Broadside? 2025, simultaneous release of Broadside in every size class so it's toon accurate since they couldn't keep his scale correct.
Wouldn't Animated Omega pretty much just be an Ark recolour? Though... didn't his arms and torso form the back end of the ship?
Posted by Grahf_ on December 14th, 2023 @ 4:38pm CST
Underbase powered G1 Starscream.
Omega Lock powered Cybertron Starscream. The scale chart someone posted earlier has him smaller than titan but oh well. I just want a titan Cybertron Starscream.
Energon Omega Supreme and Omega Sentinel.
Cybertron Menasor. But with Heavyload and maybe even Drillbit to make up the difference in his overall height compared to Metroplex. I don't think Quickmix and his Minicon would be titan though and would work well as a commander. Much like Cybertron Starscream, I just want a titan Menasor.
G1 Revenge.
G1 Victory. Nemesis retool?
BW Axalon.
BW Darksyde.
G1 Quintesson cruiser.
G1 Junkion ship, Minnow.
Prime Predaking? If only to get the wings and tail extremely articulated more than a commander would allow. He is pretty damn big compared to the rest too though. At least in dragon mode anyway. His size seems to fluctuate about as much as Tidal Wave and the already mentioned Broadside.
WFC Trilogy Astrotrain. He was titan sized for a while.
Guardian Command Center and Renegade Thruster. Both were made by Tonka and should be owned outright by Hasbro. Thruster can be an Ark retool. I seen someone mention Courageous and Grungy but those overall designs are owned by Bandai and most likely fall into that grey area most GoBots fall into. Or whatever is going on there.
Renegade Zod. Wasn't there a version or two of him that was enormous? One was based on Trypticon but there was another version too I think. Another GoBot design that should be owned outright by Hasbro. Commander could work for him just as well for the normal size.
BM Grand Mol.
Metrobase and Quintessa/Necrotitan. To go with Metroplex and the already mentioned Metrotitan. I'd want a new Metroplex mold first though.
Cyberverse Iaconus. To go with the already mentioned Croaton.
Lodestar. Ark retool?
Vigilem.
Prion.
Devisium.
Citadel.
Caminus.
Cargohold.
Chela.
Navitas.
Tempo.
Waypoint.
Emissary.
Some of those last ones don't have designs at all. Others have designs just of the alt mode. While others still are just designs of the robot or parts of the robot. Well...that I seen on the wiki anyway. But they're all titans one way or another and are at least named.
There's also multipacks that could work not unlike Haslab Victory Saber. It would help free up the commander class for other characters. With SS86 Ultra Magnus and the heavily rumored Optimus, people might have some pushback to see so many other Optimus figures as commanders.
God Ginrai. Maybe with the triple changing headmaster and/or cab from the original design sketches of PMOP as extra options or something? Two commander+?
Big Powered. A commander and two voyagers with their Micromasters each as core figures. Have a combined robot mode as well to take up some of the budget?
Battlestar Attack. A commander and two leaders. Grandus isn't titan sized himself as he's a Micromaster battlestation and not a full sized Cybertronian city as others have already pointed out. He's pretty much a glorified Modulator. So leader for him would be fine since he's so simple. Sky Garry is just as simple too so he can be another leader. Maybe have a combined robot mode for these three as well? Their Micromasters and cargo units can be sold separately and can add bulk to the combined mode after the fact like an upgrade kit of sorts.
Omega Prime. Two commander+? Maybe add their "Spy Changers" to make up the difference as two core class figures? A little combining Omega Prime set to go with the larger set.
Optimus Supreme? I already put Omega Supreme as his own titan but I don't fully think he needs to be. Optimus as a commander or leader and then the rest of the budget going to Omega. That could work. Then have Wing Saber as his own voyager or maybe even leader class release.
Cybertron Optimus, Wing Saber and Leobreaker? A commander and two leaders? Have a combined mode utilizing all three as well as the standard combined modes?
That's five more Optimus and another Magnus as potential commanders. So bumping them up to titan as multipacks could make sense. Selling them as sets with a version of Optimus in them should help them sell the lesser characters that might shelfwarm if sold on their own.
Just some random thoughts about the topic of what else they can do in the titan class. It doesn't have to be a single large figure as already seen with Devastator and Predaking.
Oh and I would love a titan Sky Lynx too but that might just be me. I always thought he should've been especially since his rival is Predaking and he's a titan. Earthrise Sky Lynx just isn't big enough to go against titan Predaking. He's big enough to go against Unique Toys Warlord though.
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on December 14th, 2023 @ 4:48pm CST
Grahf_ wrote:
G1 Quintesson cruiser.
BM Grand Mol.
Metrobase and Quintessa/Necrotitan. To go with Metroplex and the already mentioned Metrotitan. I'd want a new Metroplex mold first though.
Cyberverse Iaconus. To go with the already mentioned Croaton.
Chela.
You're so right for these ideas. When you think about it like this, there's still SO much untapped potential for Titan class figs. Personally, I would love to see more beast mode Titans. Trypticon looks great, and I know a Chela would be incredible. A golden, primal city for beast characters to be displayed on.
On the other hand, we are very overdue for a Quintesson ship! I'd never thought we'd see the Ark of Nemesis like we've gotten, but here we are. I would also love an Axalon and/or Darksyde, eff it, make all the ships Transformers!
Posted by Dino-Snarl on December 14th, 2023 @ 7:00pm CST
o.supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:noctorro wrote:However, are there any giant Transformers characters left?
Why does nobody look at my Signature... ....
j/k/... anyway... With Tidal Wave having a "Base Mode", one would almost assuredly think there would be AIRLOCK connectors somewhere. I mean even the Nemesis had them which wasn't necessary, but a nice touch. Anyone spot any yet? If there are none, that makes this so much easier to pass on. If there are, it will have to be an almost 1/2 off deal (Like Cybertron Metroplex). Although admittedly, this looks much better than Cybertron Metroplex.
That robot mode reminds us of Force Five from the 80s. Loved those 3 series and others.
Posted by Dino-Snarl on December 14th, 2023 @ 7:02pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 14th, 2023 @ 8:05pm CST
Dino-Snarl wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
That robot mode reminds us of Force Five from the 80s. Loved those 3 series and others.
Well considering Super Robots are in the ancestral line of Transformers, that makes sense. I could definitely see Majin Zarak taking on a contingent of Go Nagai's finest.
Posted by Dino-Snarl on December 14th, 2023 @ 8:11pm CST
o.supreme wrote:Dino-Snarl wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
That robot mode reminds us of Force Five from the 80s. Loved those 3 series and others.
Well considering Super Robots are in the ancestral line of Transformers, that makes sense. I could definitely see Majin Zarak taking on a contingent of Go Nagai's finest.
Would love to see that!
Posted by Emerje on December 14th, 2023 @ 8:51pm CST
Dino-Snarl wrote:Love it more. So getting it. Confused though with Megs. Maybe we didn't read it. A new one to be released to combine with "TIDAL WAVE?"
Same figure, but part of Tidal Wave includes new feet add-ons for Megatron to make him taller. You can see them on the top of the ship to the right.
Emerje
Posted by Dino-Snarl on December 15th, 2023 @ 5:28am CST
Emerje wrote:His base mode is actually more involved than most since it requires a lot of parts forming. All of the "mini parts" are removed and added on to form towers and ramps, and his chest pops out to make two stories. Plus the guns can be popped off and arranged in different places.Dino-Snarl wrote:Love it more. So getting it. Confused though with Megs. Maybe we didn't read it. A new one to be released to combine with "TIDAL WAVE?"
Same figure, but part of Tidal Wave includes new feet add-ons for Megatron to make him taller. You can see them on the top of the ship to the right.
Emerje
Yes now we see it. Thanks! Might need Megs now