Rumoured Takara Tomy Transformers Encore God Fire Convoy (RID Omega Prime) Release
Monday, October 2nd, 2017 8:32AM CDT
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Anglophone audiences may remember him better as Omega Prime, the combined form of Ultra Magnus (God Magnus) and Optimus Prime (Super Fire Convoy) from the 2001 Robots in Disguise animated series - and one of the better engineered toys from the time, and arguably in the franchise. Does this possible announcement tickle your fancy? Let us know in the Energon Pub discussion thread!
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Posted by Quantum Surge on October 2nd, 2017 @ 8:38am CDT
Posted by ExciKaiser on October 2nd, 2017 @ 8:54am CDT
Quantum Surge wrote:My biggest concern, though, is any potential mold degradation.
Why ?
It has been very far from being overused and is quite recent (16 years).
I'm more than confident.
Posted by Fattboy94 on October 2nd, 2017 @ 9:02am CDT
Posted by Rezael on October 2nd, 2017 @ 9:02am CDT
ExciKaiser wrote:It has been very far from being overused and is quite recent (16 years).
I'm more than confident.
That will depend greatly on how it was stored. Or if it is even the original mold, or a recast. A lot of molds are destroyed when production ends to try and prevent reuse.
On a side note, anyone know a good place to get replacement wheels for these two? Mine got old and split and wont stay on either bot anymore.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 2nd, 2017 @ 9:12am CDT
I still have my original Hasbro RiD 2001 figures, but if there's anything worthwhile about this Encore reissue, I just may have to check it out.
Posted by Powered Convoy on October 2nd, 2017 @ 9:47am CDT
Randy
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 2nd, 2017 @ 10:01am CDT
Posted by ExciKaiser on October 2nd, 2017 @ 10:06am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
I still have my original Hasbro RiD 2001 figures
Yep, that's probably the only problem with this release, I guess we're a lot who still have them and except if you want a box, you can get it complete for ~40$..
Posted by RainyDayMan2k on October 2nd, 2017 @ 10:27am CDT
Posted by Kyleor on October 2nd, 2017 @ 11:30am CDT
Posted by shajaki on October 2nd, 2017 @ 12:00pm CDT
What I find more exciting though, is if this is true then it means the Encore line is still kicking
Posted by Albatross250 on October 2nd, 2017 @ 12:00pm CDT
I wonder why Mega-Octane/Dolrailer knew Optimus and Fire Convoy in such a thing? (i still remember on Baldigus Chapter 1 though)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 2nd, 2017 @ 12:01pm CDT
What?Albatross250 wrote:I wonder why Mega-Octane/Dolrailer knew Optimus and Fire Convoy in such a thing? (i still remember on Baldigus Chapter 1 though)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 2nd, 2017 @ 2:19pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:What?Albatross250 wrote:I wonder why Mega-Octane/Dolrailer knew Optimus and Fire Convoy in such a thing? (i still remember on Baldigus Chapter 1 though)
No no no, Dolrailer simply commented that G1 Convoy reminded him of the Fire Convoy he's more familiar with. As they're both called "Optimus Prime" in English that bit was hard to properly translate.
So, an Encore release of God Fire Convoy? I can haz God Sword?
Posted by Sabrblade on October 2nd, 2017 @ 2:31pm CDT
Super God Sword, JelZe-y.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So, an Encore release of God Fire Convoy? I can haz God Sword?
Posted by kuhlio on October 2nd, 2017 @ 2:32pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 2nd, 2017 @ 3:02pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Super God Sword, JelZe-y.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So, an Encore release of God Fire Convoy? I can haz God Sword?
Whatever, I wants it!
Posted by thedistinctroom on October 2nd, 2017 @ 3:04pm CDT
Posted by Marcdachamp on October 2nd, 2017 @ 3:24pm CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on October 2nd, 2017 @ 3:44pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 2nd, 2017 @ 4:03pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:This is great for two reasons- firstly because those two were childhood favourites, and secondly because it means Encore is not dead.
Now that I think about it, it may not be Encore proper, per se. The 2010 Predaking reissue was initially listed as Encore, but it turned out it wasn't: "Encore" was apparently used as a synonym for "reissue". Wait and see I guess...
Posted by Kurona on October 2nd, 2017 @ 4:09pm CDT
Posted by Rysquad on October 2nd, 2017 @ 7:12pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 2nd, 2017 @ 7:26pm CDT
It is in Japan, but in the same technical way that the rest of the Beast Era is G1.Rysquad wrote:I'm just excited because it isn't G1.
Posted by Seibertron on October 2nd, 2017 @ 8:06pm CDT
I know people love their "rubber" wheels but I'll take plastic wheels any day because they actually last unlike the rubber tires which crack, rot or fall apart. No thanks!
Posted by Sabrblade on October 2nd, 2017 @ 8:08pm CDT
I'm there with ya. I'd love for these reissues to have more durable, more lasting, non-rubber tires instead.Seibertron wrote:Mine still have unsplit tires but I know it's just a matter of time! Most of the ones I get into the Seibertron.com have split tires.
I know people love their "rubber" wheels but I'll take plastic wheels any day because they actually last unlike the rubber tires which crack, rot or fall apart. No thanks!
Posted by Overcracker on October 2nd, 2017 @ 9:57pm CDT
Even though I still have my original fire Convoy and God Magnus, the combination is still a thing to behold, even if Convoy's hips have a hard time supporting all that Magnus weight.
A really great set if true, that anyone should at least experience once.
Posted by Emerje on October 2nd, 2017 @ 10:49pm CDT
I feel as though given all the parts and electronics this'll be sold for US$200 or so.
Regarding mold degradation I am a little bit concerned about it. The originals were already fairly loose. The top half of Super mode doesn't exactly hold the weight of the ladder well causing separation and it doesn't take much for him to bend forward or back at the hips in Super or God modes.
Emerje
Posted by shajaki on October 2nd, 2017 @ 11:00pm CDT
30,000 for GFCAlbatross250 wrote:More listings on Loopaza
https://www.facebook.com/loopaza/posts/1603216749739834
Target Master Topspin and Twintwist
Seaspray and Lione (?) were also listed
TLK Nitro Zeus is listed too.
Posted by william-james88 on October 2nd, 2017 @ 11:26pm CDT
Emerje wrote:I feel as though given all the parts and electronics this'll be sold for US$200 or so.
Turns out that was not a conservative enough estimate
Posted by william-james88 on October 2nd, 2017 @ 11:38pm CDT
Posted by kurthy on October 3rd, 2017 @ 12:05am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 3rd, 2017 @ 12:12am CDT
Posted by Rated X on October 3rd, 2017 @ 1:42am CDT
Posted by Emerje on October 3rd, 2017 @ 1:45am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:I feel as though given all the parts and electronics this'll be sold for US$200 or so.
Turns out that was not a conservative enough estimate
Well, the estimate wasn't too far off with the discount, 25% off gets it down to $205. But yea, once you factor in probably $60 for shipping you're right back at the beginning. At least it doesn't appear to be a Takara Tomy Mall exclusive so it'll most likely be cheaper than buying from TFSource or BBTS even with the extra shipping.
Emerje
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 3rd, 2017 @ 1:54am CDT
Rated X wrote:I never heard of that character before. I take it this is some kind of reissue of a non G1 character mold?
You bet, it's a reiusse of who we know as Omega Prime from Robots in Disguise 2001, made of Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus:
Transformers Robots In Disguise Omega Prime (God Fire Convoy) Gallery
Transformers Robots In Disguise Optimus Prime (Fire Convoy) Gallery
Transformers Robots In Disguise Ultra Magnus (God Magnus) Gallery
Thanks to a technicality, Robots in Disguise 2001 is its own universe, while the Japanese parent line Car Robots is part of Japanese G1, taking place between Seasons 2 and 3 in 2000.
Posted by xMXUx on October 3rd, 2017 @ 2:41am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on October 3rd, 2017 @ 8:40am CDT
Posted by Epsilon Delta on October 3rd, 2017 @ 9:26am CDT
I'm interested in other people's wants of reissues.
Posted by o.supreme on October 3rd, 2017 @ 9:40am CDT
2006 $50
2017 $150
Triple the price in just 11 years...doesn't make sense to me...but there it is.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:03am CDT
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Search?Hi ... &Company=2
Well, hopefully it looks and still functions great! But I think I will pass now
Posted by durroth on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:05am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:53am CDT
Posted by YRQRM0 on October 3rd, 2017 @ 11:00am CDT
Posted by ExciKaiser on October 3rd, 2017 @ 11:07am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:BBTS has him up for $280
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Search?Hi ... &Company=2
Uh. More expensive than the "vintage" we can find on ebay, sill in box.
Not sure if they did a good market analysis. Or I hope there's ton of bonuses etc in the box to justify the price.
Posted by Overcracker on October 3rd, 2017 @ 11:49am CDT
$130 each for Convoy and Magnus, is not really all that high.
They may still have some other accessories packed in though.
We'll have to wait and see, exactly what the set has.
Posted by ScottyP on October 3rd, 2017 @ 12:12pm CDT
Yes, it is.Overcracker wrote:$130 each for Convoy and Magnus, is not really all that high.
$150 for Primus this year was expensive and that toy was $50 in 2006.
$265 for God Fire Convoy next year is also expensive. Last time they were released as a set? 2005 holiday season in Costco. The price? $31.99.
Posted by Overcracker on October 3rd, 2017 @ 12:48pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Yes, it is.Overcracker wrote:$130 each for Convoy and Magnus, is not really all that high.
$150 for Primus this year was expensive and that toy was $50 in 2006.
$265 for God Fire Convoy next year is also expensive. Last time they were released as a set? 2005 holiday season in Costco. The price? $31.99.
Yes, 12 years ago. While the U.S. has very minimal inflation, other countries do not. Japan had a large inflation in 2013.
The Movie the Best Prime and Jetfire releases which were less than $60 back n DOTM, are now being sold for over $100 each in the Movie the Best line. Movie the Best Revenge Prime (DOTM Prime) is now 16,000 yen at retail.
Technically speaking for current Japanese pricing, these is not out of the question.
The cost of making these 2 figures now vs what they would have cost in 2005, is very very different.
Yes it is expensive in relation to what they cost when they were released, but not in relation to what the pricing is of current figures in Japan.
4000 yen deluxe titan Masters, 8000 to 10000 yen leaders with no electronics. etc...
It is still expensive no doubt, but considering everything the figures actually need to do, and all the parts involved its still generally within the realm of logic.
If you compare God Fire Convoy to the current Super God Ginrai, its an incredibly more complex set than those 2.
And those 2 went from 4000 or 5000 yen each when they were released alone to 18,000 yen in a box set in a span of a few months to a year. And remember no electronics.
Posted by shajaki on October 3rd, 2017 @ 1:12pm CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on October 3rd, 2017 @ 1:40pm CDT
What I really want though is a Gigatron reissue.