Rumour: Potential Transformers Masterpiece Megatron and Cliffjumper Designs
Saturday, December 20th, 2014 5:49AM CST
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Posted by dragons on December 20th, 2014 @ 6:06am CST
Posted by Peridot on December 20th, 2014 @ 6:11am CST
Wait a second, what's that in the upper right corner? It kinda looks like Kickback's head. THE PLOT THICKENS.
Posted by TimothyR on December 20th, 2014 @ 6:52am CST
if this is real, which i think is unlikely, why would hasbro be using it?
Posted by Cyberpath on December 20th, 2014 @ 7:07am CST
Hopefully this is true, because Megatron looks promising.
That's Bumblebee at the bottom of the page btw. Cliffjumper has different arms.
Metro Prime wrote:My body is ready. (My wallet is not.)
Wait a second, what's that in the upper right corner? It kinda looks like Kickback's head. THE PLOT THICKENS.
That's the Matrix of Leadership.
Posted by Va'al on December 20th, 2014 @ 7:24am CST
This does not, however, entirely remove the potentiality of any of those molds and figures ever surfacing, in my opinion.
Posted by noctorro on December 20th, 2014 @ 7:24am CST
Probably will be another 6 months before we see real stuff
Posted by mttyns on December 20th, 2014 @ 9:11am CST
It's just a design. It's Generations so they've just including who they now consider to be the three main staples of the franchise, in their G1 incarnations, not designs of any particular figures for them.
Posted by fenrir72 on December 20th, 2014 @ 9:20am CST
Posted by Cyberpath on December 20th, 2014 @ 9:41am CST
Va'al wrote:This would appear to have already been debunked by the rediscovery of the same artwork in other Hasbro Transformers outlets - the image below is allegedly from their official page for licensees.
This does not, however, entirely remove the potentiality of any of those molds and figures ever surfacing, in my opinion.
Thanks for the image. That Optimus Prime is definitely MP-10; and while the little guy is indeed Bumblebee, it's different than MP-21, particularly the head. Wonder who made these.
Posted by mttyns on December 20th, 2014 @ 9:49am CST
Cyberpath wrote:Va'al wrote:This would appear to have already been debunked by the rediscovery of the same artwork in other Hasbro Transformers outlets - the image below is allegedly from their official page for licensees.
This does not, however, entirely remove the potentiality of any of those molds and figures ever surfacing, in my opinion.
Thanks for the image. That Optimus Prime is definitely MP-10; and while the little guy is indeed Bumblebee, it's different than MP-21, particularly the head. Wonder who made these.
More than likely it was designed by a company called Pilot who were responsible for the rebranding of the line and the designs and artwork for the AOE packaging. They designed the schematic artwork for the AOE/Then and Now/Silver Knight packing inlays, which are similar in design to this:
http://www.pilotstudio.com/work/rebranding-a-giant/
Posted by griftimus prime on December 20th, 2014 @ 10:21am CST
why not do the g2 tank one?
a repaint of bb? no way....
Posted by mttyns on December 20th, 2014 @ 10:24am CST
Posted by ScottyP on December 20th, 2014 @ 10:39am CST
That said, it goes to show how badly a new MP Megatron seems to be desired in that something like this would garner such attention.
Posted by VioMeTriX on December 20th, 2014 @ 11:41am CST
*didn't scroll down far enough
Posted by Railbomb on December 20th, 2014 @ 11:49am CST
Posted by ScottyP on December 20th, 2014 @ 1:22pm CST
Railbomb wrote:I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we also got MP Sideswipe this year.
A US release of MP Sideswipe was confirmed at Botcon 2014.
Posted by Ultra Markus on December 20th, 2014 @ 1:55pm CST
Posted by durroth on December 20th, 2014 @ 2:52pm CST
Va'al wrote:This would appear to have already been debunked by the rediscovery of the same artwork in other Hasbro Transformers outlets - the image below is allegedly from their official page for licensees.
This does not, however, entirely remove the potentiality of any of those molds and figures ever surfacing, in my opinion.
... is that a custom predaking kreo combiner? or did/is japan getting definitively better versions of the microchanger combiners?
Posted by Blackstreak on December 20th, 2014 @ 9:34pm CST
Posted by megatronus on December 20th, 2014 @ 10:20pm CST
Posted by Va'al on December 21st, 2014 @ 6:55am CST
megatronus wrote:I'm more amused by the fact that, because Va'al posted, we get the British 'Rumour' instead of the American 'Rumor'. Hehe.
I put the U in Rumor.
Posted by Optimum Supreme on December 21st, 2014 @ 2:57pm CST
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on August 19th, 2015 @ 3:06pm CDT
Also if you look closely, it kinda looks like there's a Masterpiece Unicron too.
I know most G1 enthusiasts are gonna be pissed at me for saying this, but I hope this Megatron won't turn into a hand-held gun, mainly because I want it to be released in the U.S.
Posted by Cyberpath on August 19th, 2015 @ 4:43pm CDT
http://www.pilotstudio.com/work/rebranding-a-giant/
As for a "G1" Megatron that doesn't transform into a gun there's always LG13 --
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... on/3703/1/
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on August 20th, 2015 @ 6:55pm CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Hi, it turned out that the blueprints were simply decorations from Pilot Studio --
http://www.pilotstudio.com/work/rebranding-a-giant/
It still could mean a new Masterpiece Megs on the way, considering the fact that ALL of the other blueprints, are REAL Masterpiece figures...
Cyberpath wrote:As for a "G1" Megatron that doesn't transform into a gun there's always LG13 --
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... on/3703/1/
That's one thing, because he turns into a Tank in most places now, but the Masterpieces are supposed to be EXTREMELY G1 accurate, which means that MP Soundwave turns into a cassette player, and Megatron will probably become a gun, but I hope he doesn't.
It does seem weird to me, that if this Megatron DOES turn into a REALISTIC looking gun, that he'd be teased in a HASBRO U.S. box, cuz and as we all know, toys that look like real guns, are NOT allowed in the U.S. (Take the FIRST MP Megatron we got for example.) Personally, I think he'll turn into a gun, but a STYLIZED gun, like a blaster or something, so that it's obviously not a real gun, but it makes the G1 fans happy still.
Posted by SkyWarpt on August 21st, 2015 @ 3:26am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on August 21st, 2015 @ 4:06am CDT
I think a Masterpiece Megatron by definition will transform into a P38. Will that prompt Hasbro to skip him or paint him in weird colours? Maybe. Many fans buy the original Japanese releases anyhow, since there's no guarantee Hasbro will release every MP.
@SkyWarpt, that's a red Bumblebee, MP-21R.
Posted by robotmel on August 21st, 2015 @ 4:19am CDT
Yup, its a RED BUMBLE MP-21R as reported by Twitter user @_Blackburn_ using the ever faithfull magazine scan.
https://twitter.com/_blackburn_/status/634621163663044609/photo/1
Reference:
Posted by Va'al on August 21st, 2015 @ 4:52am CDT
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on August 21st, 2015 @ 4:56am CDT
Posted by Windsweeper on August 21st, 2015 @ 5:21am CDT
Posted by Bounti76 on August 21st, 2015 @ 5:29am CDT
Windsweeper wrote:Wouldn't this be Volks?
SW's SilverHammer wrote:I always forget, Red bumblebee is "Bumblejumper" and yellow cliffjumber is "Cliffbee" right?
"Bumblejumper" is actually just the toy that was sold on Cliffjumper (and some say Bumblebee) cards in 1984. Completely different sculpt than either Cliff or 'Bee. He was officially christened as Bumper in the early 2000s. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Bumper_(G1)
Also, Volks is technically orange. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Volks_(G1).
As Bumblebee and Cliffjumper were both sold in red and yellow versions for the first two years of the toyline, this is just "red Bumblebee".
Also, sidenote......Takara missed an opportunity to do this in blue, with a facemask, and make it Glyph. They'd maximize investment in the mold with minimal to no changes except for plastic/paint color, and have another MP fembot to boot.
Posted by RhA on August 21st, 2015 @ 5:40am CDT
I'm gonna make like a TV set and stay tuned.
That was a bad, bad joke.
Posted by ausbot on August 21st, 2015 @ 6:02am CDT
Posted by MemphisR56 on August 21st, 2015 @ 6:06am CDT
Jokes aside, they're probably just gonna allocate a name and a bio to the red bumblebee variant from G1, like they did with exhaust.
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on August 21st, 2015 @ 6:11am CDT
MemphisR56 wrote:Even in the masterpiece line, Cliffjumper can't get a new head sculpt.
Jokes aside, they're probably just gonna allocate a name and a bio to the red bumblebee variant from G1, like they did with exhaust.
Whenever cliffjumper is away, sometime prime asks bumblebee to dress up like him. He's just like "Bumblebee, just please, I just need some cliffjumper right now."
"J'accuse!"
"Shut the fuck up Cliffbee!
Posted by Starsaber468 on August 21st, 2015 @ 7:24am CDT
ausbot wrote:If its a new character I'll get it.
Sadly its not...
Posted by Starsaber468 on August 21st, 2015 @ 7:26am CDT
Posted by RiddlerJ on August 21st, 2015 @ 7:35am CDT
Wanna bet they include an exo-suit with a Spike head, just to drive the completists crazy?
Posted by SkyWarpt on August 21st, 2015 @ 7:53am CDT
Posted by Thormind on August 21st, 2015 @ 8:15am CDT
I never bought the original Bee but I just got the golden one thinking he would look nice with YOTH Prime. It is a nice figure but is it worth the price? He's so small, light and frail that he feels like voyager class. He's almost legend class height!
In the same delivery I had Tesla. I know he's more expensive but he's also much bigger. Comparing the two I really felt underwhelmed by Bee.
Imo Fanstoys produces exactly what the mp line should be: simple transformation made possible by great engineering, high quality materials (yes, diecast!!!) and great design esthetic. To me the only figures from Has/Tak that truly feel like they deserve the masterpiece name are Prime and Soundwave. But even with those 2 I have been disappointed by poor QC.
Soon, we'll be able to do a direct comparison between a version of the same figure from both company. Is it going to be mp Hound vs Willy or mp Grimlock vs Grinder? Who will win...?
Posted by ScottyP on August 21st, 2015 @ 8:48am CDT
That's a pretty far reaching exaggeration on the size. What Legends figure should I go put next to it to see your point? Also, the Bee toys have been very inexpensive. I think G2 Bee was all of $40, if that, from Japanese retailers.Thormind wrote:I never bought the original Bee but I just got the golden one thinking he would look nice with YOTH Prime. It is a nice figure but is it worth the price? He's so small, light and frail that he feels like voyager class. He's almost legend class height!
Posted by frogbat on August 21st, 2015 @ 9:18am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 21st, 2015 @ 9:19am CDT
Should have been Stinger, though.
Posted by RiddlerJ on August 21st, 2015 @ 9:29am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:"Bumble Red Body" is the toy's name.
Should have been Stinger, though.
The official name is Rubber Baby Buggy Bumpers.
Posted by BERSEKAEL on August 21st, 2015 @ 9:29am CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 21st, 2015 @ 11:16am CDT
Cliffjumper is a penny-racer styled Porsche. The cartoon character model from G1 pretty much followed the toy proportions. Will Takara do a realistic Porsche 924 Turbo and be able to make the robot mode into a "Masterpiece" representation of Cliffjumper?
Posted by Bronzewolf on August 21st, 2015 @ 11:49am CDT
Posted by Thormind on August 21st, 2015 @ 1:26pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:That's a pretty far reaching exaggeration on the size. What Legends figure should I go put next to it to see your point?Thormind wrote:I never bought the original Bee but I just got the golden one thinking he would look nice with YOTH Prime. It is a nice figure but is it worth the price? He's so small, light and frail that he feels like voyager class. He's almost legend class height!
I did say "almost"... Put him beside Powerglide or Cosmos, he isn't too far...
ScottyP wrote:Also, the Bee toys have been very inexpensive. I think G2 Bee was all of $40, if that, from Japanese retailers.
Most "major" retailers have G2 at 64.99$US. Cheapest I could find in Canada on preorder was 74.99$CA (53$US). Cheapest for G1 Bee 79.99$. Leaders sell for 54-59$, Voyagers for 30-35$ and legends for 10-15$ (CA). If I compare him to Leader Megatron, for example, I really don't see any justification for the price outside of the mp title.
I'm just getting tired of Has/Tak not listening to the fans and just "milking" the mp line with repaint after repaint. Just some minor retools on top of the red repaint and they would have produced what we've all been asking (and waiting) for!
Posted by Doctor McGrath on August 21st, 2015 @ 2:13pm CDT
Thormind wrote:ScottyP wrote:That's a pretty far reaching exaggeration on the size. What Legends figure should I go put next to it to see your point?Thormind wrote:I never bought the original Bee but I just got the golden one thinking he would look nice with YOTH Prime. It is a nice figure but is it worth the price? He's so small, light and frail that he feels like voyager class. He's almost legend class height!
I did say "almost"... Put him beside Powerglide or Cosmos, he isn't too far...ScottyP wrote:Also, the Bee toys have been very inexpensive. I think G2 Bee was all of $40, if that, from Japanese retailers.
Most "major" retailers have G2 at 64.99$US. Cheapest I could find in Canada on preorder was 74.99$CA (53$US). Cheapest for G1 Bee 79.99$. Leaders sell for 54-59$, Voyagers for 30-35$ and legends for 10-15$ (CA). If I compare him to Leader Megatron, for example, I really don't see any justification for the price outside of the mp title.
I'm just getting tired of Has/Tak not listening to the fans and just "milking" the mp line with repaint after repaint. Just some minor retools on top of the red repaint and they would have produced what we've all been asking (and waiting) for!
Are you serious? Powerglide is as close to MP Bee in size as a current deluxe is to a voyager. That logic doesn't work.
Also, he clearly stated Japanese retailers. Two "major" Japanese retailers, AmiAmi & HLJ, both sold Bee for under $50.
This is fine. The CJ you're so sore about will happen eventually & be better than Bee with a new head.