#Botcon2016 Images of Transformers Titans Return Tech Spec Cards
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Posted by Optimizzy on April 12th, 2016 @ 3:44pm CDT
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Posted by Emerje on April 12th, 2016 @ 3:53pm CDT
Wait, Wolfwire is already maxed out at 10 for intelligence before being boosted by Monxo to 15? And yet his fire power is only a 3 despite the huge gun and those missile pods on his arms and the big sword? Did they mix these stats up?
Emerje
Posted by Sigma Magnus on April 12th, 2016 @ 5:06pm CDT
Posted by steals_your_goats on April 12th, 2016 @ 5:10pm CDT
Sigma Magnus wrote:Why can't A3's toy look as badass as the art...I don't care if it doesn't transform, someone, somewhere, MAKE THIS AND SELL IT TO ME. It's too awesome!!
Apart from the feet this is pretty much exactly what the toy looks like.
Posted by Railbomb on April 12th, 2016 @ 5:18pm CDT
Posted by Shuttershock on April 12th, 2016 @ 5:31pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Nice of them to actually put something on the back of the card now.
Wait, Wolfwire is already maxed out at 10 for intelligence before being boosted by Monxo to 15? And yet his fire power is only a 3 despite the huge gun and those missile pods on his arms and the big sword? Did they mix these stats up?
Emerje
"Already smart Wolfwire is. Make even smarter Monxo does!"
Posted by Amelie on April 12th, 2016 @ 5:43pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Kinda like what One Must Fall 2097 did.
I always wanted a toy of the Pyros as a kid.
Any mention of Hasbro selling Titans with no Masters, so we can mix and match the cheap sets with them?
Posted by Wolfman Jake on April 12th, 2016 @ 5:48pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Nice of them to actually put something on the back of the card now.
Wait, Wolfwire is already maxed out at 10 for intelligence before being boosted by Monxo to 15? And yet his fire power is only a 3 despite the huge gun and those missile pods on his arms and the big sword? Did they mix these stats up?
Emerje
The stat cap has been raised to 20, which could mean an expansion of the old ratings, or a completely new scale. If the latter is true, it makes Weirdwolf's "10" for intelligence more like a old "5," which isn't too far off, though I do have to wonder how much intelligence Monzo really brings to the outfit to boost that up to a "7.5". The rescaling does make Weirdwolf's firepower that much more pathetic, though.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 12th, 2016 @ 5:50pm CDT
Amelie wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Kinda like what One Must Fall 2097 did.
I always wanted a toy of the Pyros as a kid.
I fancied the Shredder more, myself.
Amelie wrote:Any mention of Hasbro selling Titans with no Masters, so we can mix and match the cheap sets with them?
As in, bodies without heads? That would be like selling sandwiches without the bread... wait, they actually do that?
Posted by griftimus prime on April 12th, 2016 @ 5:58pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 12th, 2016 @ 6:29pm CDT
Sigma Magnus wrote:Why can't A3's toy look as badass as the art...I don't care if it doesn't transform, someone, somewhere, MAKE THIS AND SELL IT TO ME. It's too awesome!!
Looks pretty close to me:
Posted by Sigma Magnus on April 12th, 2016 @ 6:38pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Sigma Magnus wrote:Why can't A3's toy look as badass as the art...I don't care if it doesn't transform, someone, somewhere, MAKE THIS AND SELL IT TO ME. It's too awesome!!
Looks pretty close to me:
Yeah, it's close...I mean, it kinda has to be. But for whatever reason the art and toy don't have the same...what's the word...'oomph'? I dunno, the art just seems a lot cooler to me, and I'd love to have that, even if it's just a statue or something.
Posted by william-james88 on April 12th, 2016 @ 7:09pm CDT
Sigma Magnus wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sigma Magnus wrote:Why can't A3's toy look as badass as the art...I don't care if it doesn't transform, someone, somewhere, MAKE THIS AND SELL IT TO ME. It's too awesome!!
Looks pretty close to me:
Yeah, it's close...I mean, it kinda has to be. But for whatever reason the art and toy don't have the same...what's the word...'oomph'? I dunno, the art just seems a lot cooler to me, and I'd love to have that, even if it's just a statue or something.
I feel art will always look cooler. I am a big comic book guy and one of the coolest shots ever is this:
And they made a statue of that exact shot but you cant replicate the shadows or cross hatching so some of the texture is lost:
You will notice that most TFs (and comic book statues) look way cooler at the design stage, thats just how things go and its a reason to treasure the art as its own beauty that cant be replicated elsewhere.
Posted by Sigma Magnus on April 12th, 2016 @ 7:17pm CDT
Posted by Gunmetal on April 12th, 2016 @ 7:23pm CDT
I don't think it's meant to be a new scale. (Note that Stripes uses the standard 10-point system.) From what I see, each color represents the individual characters' stats; they add together when they combine. They had to put more on the end because, if they didn't, everyone would be maxing 3 or 4 of their stats (which is apparently Fort Max's thing).Wolfman Jake wrote:Emerje wrote:Nice of them to actually put something on the back of the card now.
Wait, Wolfwire is already maxed out at 10 for intelligence before being boosted by Monxo to 15? And yet his fire power is only a 3 despite the huge gun and those missile pods on his arms and the big sword? Did they mix these stats up?
Emerje
The stat cap has been raised to 20, which could mean an expansion of the old ratings, or a completely new scale. If the latter is true, it makes Weirdwolf's "10" for intelligence more like a old "5," which isn't too far off, though I do have to wonder how much intelligence Monzo really brings to the outfit to boost that up to a "7.5". The rescaling does make Weirdwolf's firepower that much more pathetic, though.
Takara's Cloud line used a 20-point scale for the same reason...the difference being that TM uses an actual feature of the toy (as opposed to some element of the fiction).
As for WW, if anyone is an idiot savant, it's that guy.
Posted by Shuttershock on April 12th, 2016 @ 7:28pm CDT
Randomus wrote:I don't think it's meant to be a new scale. (Note that Stripes uses the standard 10-point system.) From what I see, each color represents the individual characters' stats; they add together when they combine. They had to put more on the end because, if they didn't, everyone would be maxing 3 or 4 of their stats (which is apparently Fort Max's thing).Wolfman Jake wrote:Emerje wrote:Nice of them to actually put something on the back of the card now.
Wait, Wolfwire is already maxed out at 10 for intelligence before being boosted by Monxo to 15? And yet his fire power is only a 3 despite the huge gun and those missile pods on his arms and the big sword? Did they mix these stats up?
Emerje
The stat cap has been raised to 20, which could mean an expansion of the old ratings, or a completely new scale. If the latter is true, it makes Weirdwolf's "10" for intelligence more like a old "5," which isn't too far off, though I do have to wonder how much intelligence Monzo really brings to the outfit to boost that up to a "7.5". The rescaling does make Weirdwolf's firepower that much more pathetic, though.
Takara's Cloud line used a 20-point scale for the same reason...the difference being that TM uses an actual feature of the toy (as opposed to some element of the fiction).
As for WW, if anyone is an idiot savant, it's that guy.
"mMMMmmm. Wise Randomus is, yEEEsss!"
Posted by Amelie on April 12th, 2016 @ 7:33pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:As in, bodies without heads? That would be like selling sandwiches without the bread... wait, they actually do that?
Yes - bodies without heads. With a slightly generic colour scheme so they'll fit anything.
Posted by Agamemnon on April 12th, 2016 @ 7:41pm CDT
Amelie wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:As in, bodies without heads? That would be like selling sandwiches without the bread... wait, they actually do that?
Yes - bodies without heads. With a slightly generic colour scheme so they'll fit anything.
*Sings* "Another Saturday night and I aint got no body...got some money, 'cause I just got paid..."
Does this show my age too much?
Posted by Gunmetal on April 12th, 2016 @ 8:25pm CDT
Agamemnon wrote:Amelie wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:As in, bodies without heads? That would be like selling sandwiches without the bread... wait, they actually do that?
Yes - bodies without heads. With a slightly generic colour scheme so they'll fit anything.
*Sings* "Another Saturday night and I aint got no body...got some money, 'cause I just got paid..."
Does this show my age too much?
...he asks during a discussion about cartoon characters from 1987.
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on April 12th, 2016 @ 8:45pm CDT
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 12th, 2016 @ 8:53pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 12th, 2016 @ 9:00pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:Okay, I've been trying to keep my negativity to myself, but I have to let this out. Alpha Trion is possibly the worst transformer I've seen in several years.
Yeah, its because he is all about the robot mode. As a non transforming figure, he could look good but his alt modes suffer and thus he as a transformer suffers.
Hey I know you werent too fond of what Hasbro was doing, but how do you feel about Takara's take on these toys? Their Blurr is just too good to pass up on me and there is something I realized that a guy like you could appreciated, they resculpted his head to include his classic antenna:
Sigma Magnus wrote:Fair point. I'm still a little disappointed, but not as much so. Thanks for the new perspective.
Always a pleasure! And I hear you, I feel the same way when I look at older Transformers designs. Like we all know how Beast Machines Cheetor worked out, and the final toy wasnt that far from this, but isnt this cheetor design so damn cool!
Posted by Hellscream9999 on April 12th, 2016 @ 9:05pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:Okay, I've been trying to keep my negativity to myself, but I have to let this out. Alpha Trion is possibly the worst transformer I've seen in several years.
Yeah, something went awry during the design process, at least the ship mode is passable and very cybertronian; Not too keen on any reuse of this mold, especially if they wanna do a character as cool as thundertron
Posted by Seibertron on April 12th, 2016 @ 9:54pm CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on April 13th, 2016 @ 1:41am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 13th, 2016 @ 3:19am CDT
Posted by Kurona on April 13th, 2016 @ 6:07am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Sigma Magnus wrote:Why can't A3's toy look as badass as the art...I don't care if it doesn't transform, someone, somewhere, MAKE THIS AND SELL IT TO ME. It's too awesome!!
Looks pretty close to me:
Huh, from that angle the Lion mode actually looks much better.
Alpha Trion is definetely something I love the look of - especially Robot Mode, of course - but I doubt I'll end up getting him unfortunately. There's just too many other guys here to prioritize; Chromedome, Rewind, Galvatron, Astrotrain, Wolfwire, Blurr, SKULLCRUNCHER...
The problem with this line being so amazing to me is that there's so many great guys I won't end up getting them all
Posted by Emerje on April 13th, 2016 @ 8:20am CDT
Seibertron wrote:NOTE FROM RYAN: IMAGES REMOVED AT ARTIST'S REQUEST. Please do not repost under any circumstances. Thank you.
Since when does a contracted artist working for a major company displaying the art that the company owns in full featuring that company's own IP to the public where photography is encouraged get to tell anyone to take the images down? When you draw something for someone else for money you relinquish ownership. It's up to the owner, Hasbro, to decide if the image needs to be removed, you should ask them.
Emerje
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 13th, 2016 @ 9:08am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Don't worry alpha Trion, I like you in all odes and you're far from airachnids level.
This made me smile. So very true. He honestly is a good looking dude and I hope we never devolve back to Airachnid level ever again
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 13th, 2016 @ 10:06am CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Don't worry alpha Trion, I like you in all odes and you're far from airachnids level.
This made me smile. So very true. He honestly is a good looking dude and I hope we never devolve back to Airachnid level ever again
Thanks to you quoting me I just realised my grammar mistake as well it's the curse of airachnid..The mere mention of her deluxe toy causes you to miseplle
Posted by steals_your_goats on April 13th, 2016 @ 10:13am CDT
Posted by Agamemnon on April 13th, 2016 @ 10:22am CDT
I kept hoping it was just a part of a wing that folded away for beast mode, but was in place on the shoulder in bot mode...
Posted by Sabrblade on April 13th, 2016 @ 10:32am CDT
I asked a Hasbro rep at the Hasbro display about that horn and the answer I got basically gave me the impression that Alpha Trion's beast mode was going to have that horn regardless of what animal it was going to be, as the horn was seemingly in the plans for the figure from the get-go.Agamemnon wrote:Dat unicorn horn on the lion...
I kept hoping it was just a part of a wing that folded away for beast mode, but was in place on the shoulder in bot mode...
I didn't get to ask about it any further since it was close to the end of the day and they were trying to get everyone out of the room.
Posted by Cobotron on April 13th, 2016 @ 11:50am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 13th, 2016 @ 12:15pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:Alpha Trion is the one toy from this line I am most excited for. Leocorn horn and all. I love the lion's fist jaw.
I found that aspect really cool too.
Posted by galvatron00 on April 13th, 2016 @ 12:16pm CDT
I need to check out the official images of this guy, the photos from the show aren't selling him for me. I'll need him to at least hang out with Vector Sigma..william-james88 wrote:I found that aspect really cool too.Cobotron wrote:Alpha Trion is the one toy from this line I am most excited for. Leocorn horn and all. I love the lion's fist jaw.
Posted by william-james88 on April 13th, 2016 @ 12:23pm CDT
itscramtastic wrote:I need to check out the official images of this guy, the photos from the show aren't selling him for me. I'll need him to at least hang out with Vector Sigma..william-james88 wrote:I found that aspect really cool too.Cobotron wrote:Alpha Trion is the one toy from this line I am most excited for. Leocorn horn and all. I love the lion's fist jaw.
While I will still get this guy, I must say that those official images wont sell it more.
I am now windering who has a better lion mode, him or Gekisomaru
Posted by william-james88 on April 13th, 2016 @ 12:29pm CDT
Posted by galvatron00 on April 13th, 2016 @ 12:29pm CDT
He may be purchased. Heck, I just bought CW Cyclonus and wasn't sure if I ever would!
Posted by galvatron00 on April 13th, 2016 @ 12:31pm CDT
Speaking of noticing something in the pics, that flat top to the ship looks very much like Broadside's aircraft carrier deck.william-james88 wrote:I just noticed somthing while looking at the pics. Alpha Trion is going to have a ugly backpack. Its very easy to see how he goes from Robot to ship, the ship mode is pretty much the robot on his tummy with his legs pegged together. But that means that on his back he has that big cockpit. I am currently looking for any pics of his back since that cockpit is surely there since it isnt absorbed anywhere in the bot mode.
Posted by galvatron00 on April 13th, 2016 @ 12:33pm CDT
Gekisomaru. That sword sticking out of Trion's butt as a tail lacks articulation..or organicnesswilliam-james88 wrote:While I will still get this guy, I must say that those official images wont sell it more.itscramtastic wrote:I need to check out the official images of this guy, the photos from the show aren't selling him for me. I'll need him to at least hang out with Vector Sigma..william-james88 wrote:I found that aspect really cool too.Cobotron wrote:Alpha Trion is the one toy from this line I am most excited for. Leocorn horn and all. I love the lion's fist jaw.
I am now windering who has a better lion mode, him or Gekisomaru
Posted by galvatron00 on April 13th, 2016 @ 12:35pm CDT
The griffin part.
It's a joke.
Posted by william-james88 on April 13th, 2016 @ 12:49pm CDT
itscramtastic wrote:Speaking of noticing something in the pics, that flat top to the ship looks very much like Broadside's aircraft carrier deck.william-james88 wrote:I just noticed somthing while looking at the pics. Alpha Trion is going to have a ugly backpack. Its very easy to see how he goes from Robot to ship, the ship mode is pretty much the robot on his tummy with his legs pegged together. But that means that on his back he has that big cockpit. I am currently looking for any pics of his back since that cockpit is surely there since it isnt absorbed anywhere in the bot mode.
Yeah, thats why people mistook the drawing of Alpha Trion's alt mode for a hint at Broadside. But this doesnt work since the Hasbro catalogue of upcoming possible toys said Braidside turned into a jet and an aircraft carrier.
Posted by galvatron00 on April 13th, 2016 @ 12:51pm CDT
Semantics.william-james88 wrote:Yeah, thats why people mistook the drawing of Alpha Trion's alt mode for a hint at Broadside. But this doesnt work since the Hasbro catalogue of upcoming possible toys said Braidside turned into a jet and an aircraft carrier.itscramtastic wrote:Speaking of noticing something in the pics, that flat top to the ship looks very much like Broadside's aircraft carrier deck.william-james88 wrote:I just noticed somthing while looking at the pics. Alpha Trion is going to have a ugly backpack. Its very easy to see how he goes from Robot to ship, the ship mode is pretty much the robot on his tummy with his legs pegged together. But that means that on his back he has that big cockpit. I am currently looking for any pics of his back since that cockpit is surely there since it isnt absorbed anywhere in the bot mode.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 13th, 2016 @ 1:53pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I asked a Hasbro rep at the Hasbro display about that horn and the answer I got basically gave me the impression that Alpha Trion's beast mode was going to have that horn regardless of what animal it was going to be, as the horn was seemingly in the plans for the figure from the get-go.Agamemnon wrote:Dat unicorn horn on the lion...
I kept hoping it was just a part of a wing that folded away for beast mode, but was in place on the shoulder in bot mode...
I didn't get to ask about it any further since it was close to the end of the day and they were trying to get everyone out of the room.
He's not the first lion mech to have that horn, however. Look up Raijin-oh from Zettai Muteki Raijin-oh, specifically the lion component. So it's not that unprecedented.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on April 13th, 2016 @ 2:09pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I asked a Hasbro rep at the Hasbro display about that horn and the answer I got basically gave me the impression that Alpha Trion's beast mode was going to have that horn regardless of what animal it was going to be, as the horn was seemingly in the plans for the figure from the get-go.Agamemnon wrote:Dat unicorn horn on the lion...
I kept hoping it was just a part of a wing that folded away for beast mode, but was in place on the shoulder in bot mode...
I didn't get to ask about it any further since it was close to the end of the day and they were trying to get everyone out of the room.
He's not the first lion mech to have that horn, however. Look up Raijin-oh from Zettai Muteki Raijin-oh, specifically the lion component. So it's not that unprecedented.
It certainly has those anime-esque elements in beast mode.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 13th, 2016 @ 2:21pm CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I asked a Hasbro rep at the Hasbro display about that horn and the answer I got basically gave me the impression that Alpha Trion's beast mode was going to have that horn regardless of what animal it was going to be, as the horn was seemingly in the plans for the figure from the get-go.Agamemnon wrote:Dat unicorn horn on the lion...
I kept hoping it was just a part of a wing that folded away for beast mode, but was in place on the shoulder in bot mode...
I didn't get to ask about it any further since it was close to the end of the day and they were trying to get everyone out of the room.
He's not the first lion mech to have that horn, however. Look up Raijin-oh from Zettai Muteki Raijin-oh, specifically the lion component. So it's not that unprecedented.
It certainly has those anime-esque elements in beast mode.
And for something a little closer to home: the lion-type Zoids sometimes have blades on their heads, like the Energy Liger (both the Eldoran series that Raijin-oh is part of, an Zoids are made by Tomy. Coincidence?).
Posted by Collector Canine on April 13th, 2016 @ 2:26pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I asked a Hasbro rep at the Hasbro display about that horn and the answer I got basically gave me the impression that Alpha Trion's beast mode was going to have that horn regardless of what animal it was going to be, as the horn was seemingly in the plans for the figure from the get-go.Agamemnon wrote:Dat unicorn horn on the lion...
I kept hoping it was just a part of a wing that folded away for beast mode, but was in place on the shoulder in bot mode...
I didn't get to ask about it any further since it was close to the end of the day and they were trying to get everyone out of the room.
He's not the first lion mech to have that horn, however. Look up Raijin-oh from Zettai Muteki Raijin-oh, specifically the lion component. So it's not that unprecedented.
It certainly has those anime-esque elements in beast mode.
And for something a little closer to home: the lion-type Zoids sometimes have blades on their heads, like the Energy Liger (both the Eldoran series that Raijin-oh is part of, an Zoids are made by Tomy. Coincidence?).
Yeah, I can totally see the Anime elements in Alpha Trion, which makes me want him even more!
The fact that Tomy has two franchises with lion Robots that have horns and AT's lion mode has a horn is a coincidence, in my opinion.