Transformers: The Last Knight Picture and Video Round Up featuring Bumblebee, Sqweeks and Excaliber

I don't know about anyone else, but I think Sqweeks might be one of those old British generals who always go on about "back in the glory days....." and stuff like that.

Did we already know there would be a convertible version of Bee? I wonder how that will look in robot mode if he transforms to/from it without reformatting?

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Did we already know there would be a convertible version of Bee? I wonder how that will look in robot mode if he transforms to/from it without reformatting?

Emerje

Could be that his robot mode might look like it normally does from the front, while his back would simply lack the car roof kibble it's had in Bee's previously forms.

Emerje wrote:Did we already know there would be a convertible version of Bee? I wonder how that will look in robot mode if he transforms to/from it without reformatting?

Emerje

I just realized that Bee's convertible mode is a completely different mode altogether, not just his normal look minus the roof. The convertible Bee has a different spoiler and side vents, among other things. I don't know if it'll impact his robot mode that much, but it probably means we'll be getting two different deluxe class Bumblebee figures from TLK ( which I am perfectly ok with )

Kurona wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:We never had a Brawl in Bayverse. Not onscreen.

Where in any of the movies was this character named Brawl? Toys and comics don't count.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:We never had a Brawl in Bayverse. Not onscreen.

Where in any of the movies was this character named Brawl? Toys and comics don't count.

Why don't they count? He's retroactively known as Brawl, it's pretty clear the name Devastator was just an error. Especially considering we have a completely different Devastator in the next movie.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:We never had a Brawl in Bayverse. Not onscreen.

Where in any of the movies was this character named Brawl? Toys and comics don't count.

Official merchandise doesn't count?

The inclusion of Squeek bugs me no end. Another Transformer that looks nothing like a Transformer. Bad enough Drift is back. They'll probably bring back bloody Brains too.

Dino, Jolt and Arcee get killed off and they bring back the naff bots.

Probably bring back that damn Leo and Simmons next.

Windsweeper wrote:
The inclusion of Squeek bugs me no end. Another Transformer that looks nothing like a Transformer. Bad enough Drift is back. They'll probably bring back bloody Brains too.

Dino, Jolt and Arcee get killed off and they bring back the naff bots.

Probably bring back that damn Leo and Simmons next.

Squeaks actually looks like he can Transform at least and what is wrong with Drift and Brains just wondering?

Don't say Drift is racist please don't... at the very least Drift is getting a redesign with the new alt mode.


Dino was never coming back due to issues with Ferrari unfortunately, Jolt was a useless character shoehorned at the last minute as advertising for a car, and Bay hated Arcee from the start and I can see why since the only thing notable about her personality basically is that she is a girl and that's where it ends so she is a weak character most of the time.


If they were bringing back Leo or Simmons they would announced it by now if they were in the main cast but at the very least Leo is not coming back since he hasn't been relevant since ROTF in 2009.

If Drift still has his triple-changing helicopter mode...i hope the toy manufacturers get it right this time & give us a triple changing toy! instead of two toy Drifts....one which was HeliDrift

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:We never had a Brawl in Bayverse. Not onscreen.

Where in any of the movies was this character named Brawl? Toys and comics don't count.

I remember seeing name brawl in theaters when stars cream was calling everyone together to free megaton it may still be on DVD release wouldn't know I haven't saw first
Movie on bluray yet

Stuartmaximus wrote:If Drift still has his triple-changing helicopter mode...i hope the toy manufacturers get it right this time & give us a triple changing toy! instead of two toy Drifts....one which was HeliDrift

I doubt it, I mean, it would be a nice surprise to see his helicopter mode referenced again but considering how long it was used for in aoe, I don't think it's even a consideration

Rodimus Prime wrote:Where in any of the movies was this character named Brawl? Toys and comics don't count.

Well it's not just toys and comics here that's saying it, even though that's where it primarily is focused on with the name. There's lots of other sources here calling the Con, Brawl. It ranges from the Writers, to Hasbro itself, and yeah the other external media like comics and what not. There's nothing wrong with you calling him "Devastator" though. I get the "movie purist" aspect totally. So I'm not attacking that with this post. Just showing there's multiple sources where it's been more or less confirmed by the powers that be from the writers that he is "Brawl". What you do with it is obviously your choice of course in the end and respectfully is entirely up to you and the name you wish to call Brawl/Devastator in your personal canon. I say this respectfully to you of course and to show there's an opposing/dissenting view.

dragons wrote:I remember seeing name brawl in theaters when stars cream was calling everyone together to free megaton it may still be on DVD release wouldn't know I haven't saw first Movie on bluray yet

Not in any of the distributions of the movie I've seen (I saw it in theaters when it first came out and own the DVD that I've watched quite a few times) did I see the name "Brawl" make an appearance at all. It's always been "Devastator" in the film. The source for it being "Brawl" is and has been primarily outside of the film itself. I have not watched the Blu ray though, but I doubt there is a difference there in any event in this case.

dragons wrote:
I remember seeing name brawl in theaters when stars cream was calling everyone together to free megaton it may still be on DVD release wouldn't know I haven't saw first
Movie on bluray yet

I have the blue ray and it's still Devastator.



Let's just say Devastator is Brawl's nickname that he prefers to call himself.

Deadput wrote:

dragons wrote:
I remember seeing name brawl in theaters when stars cream was calling everyone together to free megaton it may still be on DVD release wouldn't know I haven't saw first
Movie on bluray yet

I have the blue ray and it's still Devastator.



Let's just say Devastator is Brawl's nickname that he prefers to call himself.

At least he doesn't hate everything like Bonecrusher.

Tyrannacon wrote:
At least he doesn't hate everything like Bonecrusher.

While the films have not been the best with Decepticons I do like how some characters are handled Bonecrusher was one of them he might have had short screen-time but every part of it showed how much anger the guy had he went out of his way to destroy a bus for no reason and Bonecrusher also yelled a lot he clearly did hate everything and it got him killed for acting out on it.

Kinda reminds me of a fan theory I read somewhere about the Decepticons in the "Bayverse" being the more or less "misunderstood good guys" or more appropriately, anti-villains, than anything. Point is, I thought it made a compelling argument for it in any case. Kinda like how in certain Star Wars circles where people insist the Sith are actually not that evil. Heh.

dragons wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:We never had a Brawl in Bayverse. Not onscreen.

Where in any of the movies was this character named Brawl? Toys and comics don't count.

I remember seeing name brawl in theaters when stars cream was calling everyone together to free megaton it may still be on DVD release wouldn't know I haven't saw first
Movie on bluray yet

I dont even see why any of these matters and why there is a debate. This character is called Brawl by all movie related info and merchandise, so he's Brawl. But so what? None of these characters (aside from Optimus, sadly) are claimed to be depictions of their G1 selves. Its seperate characters in a different universe.

Universe Silverbot didnt combine but he was still G1 silverbolt. And this guy is no even G1 brawl.

TLDR: His name is Brawl, but why does that even matter? Its just the movies, since when do they care about anything?

Man, that Cybertron Con sure looks awesome. Not only do they have arguably the bigger Titans Return Reveals (Trypticon and Sixshot) but they also get an actual behind the scenes video of Michael Bay walking us through a scene he is shooting. This video was being filmed live in an enormous set for an underwater scene in a submarine with Mark Wahlberg. Even people who are just fans of movie making in general would get a kick out of it. You get a great idea of the insane scope of a film like this. I myself was very surprised with the amount of actors who stay on the set even if a scene does not have them (though it may simply be for this special live video), like Josh Duhamel who stops by to say hi. An even more interesting tidbit is an actress in full on motion capture which surprised Mark Walhberg's character while he is injured on the sub. Which CG character could that be? One last interesting note on a filming standpoint is how long the scene actually plays out and how Michael Bay would rather keep the actors working to get it right, rather than cut. The takes last longer than the shots, thanks to multiple cameras being used, which helps keep actors within character and cuts on continuity errors.

Regardless of how the story in these films play out, it is undeniable that Michael Bay runs a tight ship and seeing him at the centre of such an immense project, yet also being able to be up close and personal with the scenes being filmed gives you a good idea of why he keeps getting these projects. We were made aware of this video by fellow Seibertronian SlyTF1.

SlyTF1 wrote:Another behind the scenes video:
http://alcdn.static.xiaoka.tv/img/swf/p ... eKQEh_fjdx

Submarine transformer? We don't have that many come to think of it...

SeventhSage wrote:Submarine transformer? We don't have that many come to think of it...

I dont know where you got that, there is no submarine transformer confirmed. Its just a scene that takes place in a sub.

I am a very big non-fan of the Bayverse TF designs.

In my head canon, anything that looks remotely the way the Cybertronians in the Bayverse SHOULD be cosmic powered, or have some mystical qualities.

If not, they are just weak ugly fodders (robotic or otherwise) to be either smashed by the incredible Hulk, or be blown to bits by the Sentry.

You see the designs in Titans Return or Combiner Wars? Or any of the 3D games? Now THOSE are Cybertronians!!

Good opinion beyonder and i can see why you don't like the designs due to being different.


But difference between the movies and the new titans return/combiner wars/ recent games designs is that at least the movies have imagination to make something new and not a rehash of an old 30 year design.


But seriously unless it's a new character then nothing generations gives us is remotely new or creative and has to rely on reusing the basic blocky designs just with a different twist.

Not that it's bad but at least the movies try to move the brand forward and not bumble around in the past.

While I love innovation and have no problems with the movie designs I think a lot of people expected the g1 designs to be used as they were the most well known. Now bay has said why the art took the direction it did and he's right, would people of liked prime looking exactly like his g1 version doing all the things the movie prime does?

Still, it seems some people can't separate the characters from all incarnations and just let them be their own characters.

Besides, are these designs any weirder than what we got from beast machines or what we would of got in trans tech?

Even though it was seen in Times Square already, the art for the poster for The Last Knight officially gets released:

ComingSoon wrote:Transformers: The Last Knight Poster Officially Released

Though the film doesn’t hit theaters until next summer, the first poster for Transformers: The Last Knight debuted in Times Square last month and now Paramount Pictures has officially released the art online.

Source: http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/7 ... d#/slide/1

A number of sources and fans are reporting the release of the official poster art for the upcoming (next year) Transformers: The Last Knight live-action movie from Paramount, with Michael Bay once again at the helm and a very active marketing team - as we have seen these past months! We had seen the art feature on a billboard in Times Square, New York, but check it out again from Paramount direct below, as Optimus Prime squares off against a three-headed dragon thing!

I would like to purchase an actual poster of this.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:I would like to purchase an actual poster of this.

I am 100% certain that will be very doable next year.

...this looks awful to me for some reason.

very curious about the logo on the flag, probably just part of the marketing but would be kinda cool if its for an elite group of Cons. the dragon thing looks like its just a bunch of the "transformium"(or whatever they called it)from AoE.

Beyonder wrote:I am a very big non-fan of the Bayverse TF designs.

In my head canon, anything that looks remotely the way the Cybertronians in the Bayverse SHOULD be cosmic powered, or have some mystical qualities.

If not, they are just weak ugly fodders (robotic or otherwise) to be either smashed by the incredible Hulk, or be blown to bits by the Sentry.

You see the designs in Titans Return or Combiner Wars? Or any of the 3D games? Now THOSE are Cybertronians!!

They're all Cybertronians. Every one.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Beyonder wrote:I am a very big non-fan of the Bayverse TF designs.

In my head canon, anything that looks remotely the way the Cybertronians in the Bayverse SHOULD be cosmic powered, or have some mystical qualities.

If not, they are just weak ugly fodders (robotic or otherwise) to be either smashed by the incredible Hulk, or be blown to bits by the Sentry.

You see the designs in Titans Return or Combiner Wars? Or any of the 3D games? Now THOSE are Cybertronians!!

They're all Cybertronians. Every one.

Of course they are. He's just saying which kind of Cybertronian design he personally prefers the look of, and that the ones that look like the movieverse kind should, in his opinion, be a more special and magical type of Cybertronians instead the ordinary type that they are in the movies.

the whole knight thing is just massively unappealing to me

New Seibertronian ElitaOnePrime has shared some images with us from Michigan, where a surprise Transformers: The Last Knight convoy appeared - her husband used Camera, and it was super effective! Check out the images we were sent below, as Optimus Prime in his Age of Extinction garbs, the Decepticon rusty Volkswagen van, some British numberplated jeep, and some military vehicles, all take a casual stroll down 96 in the Lansing area.

My husband and Son( who's 9) are Visiting My brother in Law in Michigan this week, Yesterday, they spent hours walking around Downtown Detroit hoping to catch some filming or some such evidence, to no avail Today they are headed to a water park while Traveling west on 96 near Lansing, Michigan they saw this.

Just a side note My husband and are are HUGE fans, my 9yr old could name the Autobots before he could say his ABC's

If it isn't Hound....could that military vehicle be Breakdown(TF Prime) as it sure looks similar to his vehicle mode.

Stuartmaximus wrote:If it isn't Hound....could that military vehicle be Breakdown(TF Prime) as it sure looks similar to his vehicle mode.

There's no insignia on the grey military truck, so it isn't likely to be a tf

Ah but did Silas Breakdown have an insignia

Stuartmaximus wrote:Ah but did Silas Breakdown have an insignia

That doesn't matter.

Besides, altmode type is rarely ever a determining factor of character identity for the movies.

Yeah, like, aside from Evasion Mode Optimus I don't think there's a single character whose alt mode has matched up with their original incarnation - even in cases where, say, Bumblebee is still a car; it's a different type of car.
Which is fun, because it's nice to see new vehicle modes as long as it keeps to the spirit of the character. I actually prefer Ironhide having a pickup truck alt-mode to his G1 van mode.

Sabrblade wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:Ah but did Silas Breakdown have an insignia

That doesn't matter.

Besides, altmode type is rarely ever a determining factor of character identity for the movies.

i lost count how many times i said that simalr statement altmode type is rarely ever a determining factor of character identity for the movies

Stuartmaximus wrote:If it isn't Hound....could that military vehicle be Breakdown(TF Prime) as it sure looks similar to his vehicle mode.

That's exactly what I thought!

Z3ROhour wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:If it isn't Hound....could that military vehicle be Breakdown(TF Prime) as it sure looks similar to his vehicle mode.

That's exactly what I thought!

I'm glad someone agrees

Thanks

As best as I can recall it seems bay knew darn well that Calling Brawl Devastator was dimwitted and after the producers had been on his case about changing the other names like Prowl into Barricade. he likely couldn't be bothered to fix it.

Heck there is an air of lazyness about these Movies - have the still not changed the spelling mistakes in the 2007 Movie's subtitles for example despite multiple reissues of the movie ?

But yes Devastator should be changed as it makes zero sense to keep it like that when it's such an easy fix just a few frames need to be redone with some text saying "Devastator" - any anyone new to the franchise is going to wonder what the heck is going one when they see Revenge of the Fallen has a completely different Devastator.

It also show how terrified people are of loosing their job that they won't call the boss out when they are being a complete ass. but Don Murphy Tried the other Producers tried - he just ignored them... "As it sounded cool" or some such dipsh*t reason.

They couldn't even be bothered to name some of the Characters in the Movies that is how little they care about what they are doing.

It's not like someone would stand and scream bloody murder to defend these characters only one Japanese guy did for Optimus Prime (which did get his design improved) and oddly that guy seems not to have got hired for any of the following movies (at least as far as I've noticed).

There seems to be a lot of not giving a f**k going around in Movie production - which may be why the audiences likely care a lot less too.

I suppose the other joke is that they called Hound "Hound" when he's clearly designed to be Bulkhead. so they got the choice wrong again for the opposite reason by trying to be pandering to G1ers they shot themselves in the foot - I can't really see a sensible version of Hound being that Violent, but then the Movies don't allow for the Robots to have personalities other than that of robot killing machine.

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Anway if we were still getting Movie toys that didn't suck like in 2009 I would say I would like to see that Military truck turned into a Decepticon Breakdown in ROTF style - but since Hasbro seems to have long since fired anyone who knows how to make Transformers that seems unlikely.

Anway if we were still getting Movie toys that didn't suck like in 2009 I would say I would like to see that Military truck turned into a Decepticon Breakdown in ROTF style - but since Hasbro seems to have long since fired anyone who knows how to make Transformers that seems unlikely.

Whooooooa, gentle on the salt.

A). I must remind you that the movies are a completely DIFFERENT UNIVERSE. The writers, the special effects manager, the design manager, and (mostly) the director base these characters on their vision of what these characters would be like in "real life". If they want a gunslinging, bad mouthing, non-Hummer, Bulkhead-esque Hound, that's their right. That's were their creative vision takes them. True, Hasbro has to approve these characters, but they no doubt appreciate a different approach to their characters. As long as they don't royally screw them up (like make Bumblebee a 'Con), I think they don't care.

B). As for the "how to make Transformers", um... are these not convertible alien robots from a planet called Cybertron fighting a war? Or just not how you think they should be portrayed?

EDIT: C). Okay, so, after rereading your post, I must comment on one other thing. Yeeeeeeah, the laziness of the director is... sad. So, I want it to be clear that I'm only commenting on the quoted area. Also to be clear, I'm not condoning the poor planning, I'm simply making a point.

The thing about laziness is only opinion though. Michael bay probably puts his all into the movies, it's just you don't like his style. I also never get these reactions about the characters not being like their g1 selves, this was never going to be g1. These characters are just borrowing names.

I like some of the movies, they are far from my favourites and I acknowledge all their flaws but I will judge this new one when I watch it and then decide if I will support it more by getting the home release.

Oh and the thing about changing the name of brawl in the subs of the first film. If enough people kicked off over it then they would of had the masters changed but I'm guessing not that many actually do care.

.... I work right in Lansing....and travel 96 every day ...... how did I miss this?

ZeroWolf wrote:Oh and the thing about changing the name of brawl in the subs of the first film. If enough people kicked off over it then they would of had the masters changed but I'm guessing not that many actually do care.

I thought it was said awhile back that the reason the name "Devastator" appeared in the film instead of "Brawl" was that, while it was supposed to have been the finalized "Brawl" name, Bay left it as the preproduction name on purpose because he liked the name "Devastator" better.

Michael Bay is probably the most hard working director in hollywood. Did anyone see that most recent clip? He can manage this giant movie and still be in the closest proximity to the actors during scenes. George Lucas sure didnt do that in the Star Wars prequels. He was more distant, literally. Michael Bay is in the middle of it all and still able to manage the production at a macro level. Its a insane accomplishment. And remember that Michael Bay doesnt care about the story or the brand, he cares that it looks good and he definitely delivers. HOLY SHIT, did anyone really look at that finale in Age fo Extinction lately? It's the most insane action ever filmed (hell, so is that battle in the forest in ROTF). There is this gorgeous scene where Bumblebee crashed with Swoop into a glass building. And that builing was real (they covered the top in a green tarp) and it was glass, which makes things so much morecomplicated sicne you have all the refractory pieces. Its fucken nuts that he could pull off that shot and make it look part of the real world and not a video game. Its the best CG I have ever seen and you can actually follow the action quite well too (something he improved over the previous films).
I have nothing but praise to give to his directing, but damn I wish the writing was better and there was less focus on humans. But that has nothing to do with Michael Bay.

william-james88 wrote:Michael Bay is probably the most hard working director in hollywood. Did anyone see that most recent clip? He can manage this giant movie and still be in the closest proximity to the actors during scenes. George Lucas sure didnt do that in the Star Wars prequels. He was more distant, literally. Michael Bay is in the middle of it all and still able to manage the production at a macro level. Its a insane accomplishment. And remember that Michael Bay doesnt care about the story or the brand, he cares that it looks good and he definitely delivers. HOLY ****, did anyone really look at that finale in Age fo Extinction lately? It's the most insane action ever filmed (hell, so is that battle in the forest in ROTF). There is this gorgeous scene where Bumblebee crashed with Swoop into a glass building. And that builing was real (they covered the top in a green tarp) and it was glass, which makes things so much morecomplicated sicne you have all the refractory pieces. Its **** nuts that he could pull off that shot and make it look part of the real world and not a video game. Its the best CG I have ever seen and you can actually follow the action quite well too (something he improved over the previous films).
I have nothing but praise to give to his directing, but damn I wish the writing was better and there was less focus on humans. But that has nothing to do with Michael Bay.

THANK YOU.

Sigma Magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Michael Bay is probably the most hard working director in hollywood. Did anyone see that most recent clip? He can manage this giant movie and still be in the closest proximity to the actors during scenes. George Lucas sure didnt do that in the Star Wars prequels. He was more distant, literally. Michael Bay is in the middle of it all and still able to manage the production at a macro level. Its a insane accomplishment. And remember that Michael Bay doesnt care about the story or the brand, he cares that it looks good and he definitely delivers. HOLY ****, did anyone really look at that finale in Age fo Extinction lately? It's the most insane action ever filmed (hell, so is that battle in the forest in ROTF). There is this gorgeous scene where Bumblebee crashed with Swoop into a glass building. And that builing was real (they covered the top in a green tarp) and it was glass, which makes things so much morecomplicated sicne you have all the refractory pieces. Its **** nuts that he could pull off that shot and make it look part of the real world and not a video game. Its the best CG I have ever seen and you can actually follow the action quite well too (something he improved over the previous films).
I have nothing but praise to give to his directing, but damn I wish the writing was better and there was less focus on humans. But that has nothing to do with Michael Bay.

THANK YOU.

Yeah, he's got some serious skill and dedication, it's the writer's that I have problems with

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Michael Bay is probably the most hard working director in hollywood. Did anyone see that most recent clip? He can manage this giant movie and still be in the closest proximity to the actors during scenes. George Lucas sure didnt do that in the Star Wars prequels. He was more distant, literally. Michael Bay is in the middle of it all and still able to manage the production at a macro level. Its a insane accomplishment. And remember that Michael Bay doesnt care about the story or the brand, he cares that it looks good and he definitely delivers. HOLY ****, did anyone really look at that finale in Age fo Extinction lately? It's the most insane action ever filmed (hell, so is that battle in the forest in ROTF). There is this gorgeous scene where Bumblebee crashed with Swoop into a glass building. And that builing was real (they covered the top in a green tarp) and it was glass, which makes things so much morecomplicated sicne you have all the refractory pieces. Its **** nuts that he could pull off that shot and make it look part of the real world and not a video game. Its the best CG I have ever seen and you can actually follow the action quite well too (something he improved over the previous films).
I have nothing but praise to give to his directing, but damn I wish the writing was better and there was less focus on humans. But that has nothing to do with Michael Bay.

THANK YOU.

Yeah, he's got some serious skill and dedication, it's the writer's that I have problems with

But Bay has more control over that than you seem to think. It's his job to pick the writers and tell them what he wants in the story. The writers are often handcuffed to craft some semblance of story that exists only to link the action scenes together. Bay puts the cart before the horse, and that's on him.