Transformers Studio Series Core Class Shockwave and Ravage found at US Retail

It's sad to think I haven't seen toy shelves like that in years.

One of the guys in our line chat group found ravage and shockwave yesterday at a Wal Mart in Harvey Louisiana.

Cyber Bishop wrote:One of the guys in our line chat group found ravage and shockwave yesterday at a Wal Mart in Harvey Louisiana.

I picked them up (Online via Kapow) for a friend who is collecting the Core Class. I misread the description and thought they were '86 SS

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

Just found Shockwave & Ravage today in a Virginia Walmart... looked to have several in stock

transformers_va wrote:Just found Shockwave & Ravage today in a Virginia Walmart... looked to have several in stock

Did you get them?

william-james88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

Exactly. TF:TM was split into 5 parts in 1988/89 and shown with other episodes in the puppet prime reruns. That dosen't make it any less of movie. Same for Predacons Rising.

william-james88 wrote:

transformers_va wrote:Just found Shockwave & Ravage today in a Virginia Walmart... looked to have several in stock

Did you get them?

Yes, but I'm not hugely pleased with Ravage. He doesn't look good in either mode, or in Soundwave's chest

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

Exactly. TF:TM was split into 5 parts in 1988/89 and shown with other episodes in the puppet prime reruns. That dosen't make it any less of movie. Same for Predacons Rising.

I'll give you that, but there is a bit of a difference in feel of production value between theatrical releases and "made-for-TV" or "straight-to-DVD": the latter category is notorious for lackluster sequels of successful theatrical movies, plus the lower budget really shows.

True. Predacons Rising dosen't have the feel of a theatrical release. But personally, I still think it's a pretty awesome addendum to a series that had a really strong ending as it was.

o.supreme wrote:True. Predacons Rising dosen't have the feel of a theatrical release. But personally, I still think it's a pretty awesome addendum to a series that had a really strong ending as it was.

Plus it has its own accompanying merchandise.

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:True. Predacons Rising dosen't have the feel of a theatrical release. But personally, I still think it's a pretty awesome addendum to a series that had a really strong ending as it was.

Plus it has its own accompanying merchandise.

If you could find it

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:True. Predacons Rising dosen't have the feel of a theatrical release. But personally, I still think it's a pretty awesome addendum to a series that had a really strong ending as it was.

Plus it has its own accompanying merchandise.

If you could find it

Well it was Target exclusive. Was it hard to find in the US?

I don't think so. I was able to get the Legion Abominus set for my son on clearance.

william-james88 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:True. Predacons Rising dosen't have the feel of a theatrical release. But personally, I still think it's a pretty awesome addendum to a series that had a really strong ending as it was.

Plus it has its own accompanying merchandise.

If you could find it

Well it was Target exclusive. Was it hard to find in the US?

Wave 2 (Nova Blast Bumblebee, Cryofire Predaking, Bombshock & Soundwave, Night Shadow Bumblebee vs. Blight) had limited distribution in the US, and none if any anywhere else including Canada and Europe.

william-james88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

It aired on TV first, four days before its DVD release.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

It aired on TV first, four days before its DVD release.

Similar to how all of WB major films in 2021 were released in theaters and on HBO Max the same day . Except PR only aired once before the DVD release, and still as a single film.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

It aired on TV first, four days before its DVD release.

Similar to how all of WB major films in 2021 were released in theaters and on HBO Max the same day . Except PR only aired once before the DVD release, and still as a single film.

So then it's a "TV movie" rather than a "DVD movie".

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

It aired on TV first, four days before its DVD release.

Similar to how all of WB major films in 2021 were released in theaters and on HBO Max the same day . Except PR only aired once before the DVD release, and still as a single film.

So then it's a "TV movie" rather than a "DVD movie".

It's both

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

It aired on TV first, four days before its DVD release.

Similar to how all of WB major films in 2021 were released in theaters and on HBO Max the same day . Except PR only aired once before the DVD release, and still as a single film.

So then it's a "TV movie" rather than a "DVD movie".

It's both

Is the same also true of "Transform and Roll Out" and "TransWarped"? As they too were later split into episode form after their initial broadcasts as TV specials.

No because those were made specifically to be individual episodes. They have obvious act breaks etc. Similar to the first 3 episodes of Superman TAS or Justice League. 3 episodes that aired as specials on TV in their premiere. Predacons Rising is a proper film. There are no obvious act breaks. Like TF:TM in 1988, they would have to abruptly pick a place to end an pick up PR if broken into episodes later.

Neither special from TFA was advertised as an actual film.

o.supreme wrote:There are no obvious act breaks.

Sure there are. Part 1, for instance, ends right as Unicron arrives at Darkmount and speaks the line "Minions of the Prime, prepare to be obliterated!!" There's a big trumpet fanfare accompanying this part that's meant to close it out in episode form, but in the movie form it is edited to seamlessly transition into the very next shot that is the beginning of Part 2.

This is how they did it for all of Prime's multi-parters that were later released on DVD in combined movie form. The final black screens of each episode were taken out and the music was scored in such a way that each episode's last composition would transition seamlessly into the first one of each next episode.

When the first three episodes of season 3 aired in Singapore as a single TV special, the beginning and end of each episode was blended together exactly like this, making the cliffhanger endings of the first and second episodes transition seamlessly into the first shot of the second and third episodes, respectively. When it first aired, it was really hard to tell where each part ended and the next part began because it genuinely felt like one whole piece instead of multiple pieces merged together.

Same with the DVD movie version of "Darkness Rising". Watching that version knowing where each part was supposed to start and stop, the moments of transition were so smooth that they never felt like the beginning and end of two different episodes stitched together, but like the same single episode five times longer than normal.

Meanwhile, "Transform and Roll Out" only feels like two parts merged together instead of three, as the transition between its first two parts is extremely subtle. Part 3's beginning, however, is very obvious since the music changes so drastically and the scene cut does go to black very briefly, but not brief enough to be unnoticeable. When "TransWarped" first aired as a movie, all three of its parts were likewise seamlessly woven together, much like the Prime DVD movies.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:True. Predacons Rising dosen't have the feel of a theatrical release. But personally, I still think it's a pretty awesome addendum to a series that had a really strong ending as it was.

Plus it has its own accompanying merchandise.

If you could find it

Well it was Target exclusive. Was it hard to find in the US?

Wave 2 (Nova Blast Bumblebee, Cryofire Predaking, Bombshock & Soundwave, Night Shadow Bumblebee vs. Blight) had limited distribution in the US, and none if any anywhere else including Canada and Europe.

I don't recall those being hard to find at all, though I do regret passing on the Legion 2 packs, but they aren't ridiculously overpriced on eBay (trying to import Rot Gut from Europe for under $50 on the other hand...). Only two figures that got NA releases but were pretty impossible to find in the US is wave 5 Voyagers Optimus Prime and Predaking, but that was still regular line.

Emerje

Here's my finished custom ROTF Sideswipe!

Wow, this looks like a dream. It must be cool to be an American.
I litteraly have to buy all these figures form import shops in The Netherlands.
Probably 10% will be in our real physical Toys r Us toystores and that will take atleast another 6 months to a year.

I know we have celestial level better healthcare in our country but man the toy availability brings us collecters here to tears.

Toyhunting is something of the very distant past here.

noctorro wrote:Wow, this looks like a dream. It must be cool to be an American.
I litteraly have to buy all these figures form import shops in The Netherlands.
Probably 10% will be in our real physical Toys r Us toystores and that will take atleast another 6 months to a year.

I know we have celestial level better healthcare in our country but man the toy availability brings us collecters here to tears.

Toyhunting is something of the very distant past here.

I will say that we can/do complain a lot about this or that in terms of inconveniences and such, but we are quite lucky compared to literally the rest of the world when it comes just about everything and take it for granted far too often. I'm truly surprised at the ignorance of my fellow countrymen of what goes on in other parts of the World.

I personally find it annoying not to be able to find this type of stuff at retail anymore even though it seems so much easier just to put in a pre-order and forget it. It get grief all the time for wanting to physically touch and inspect the item before buying it. lol

I managed to stumble on the first wave of cores. Gotta say, Ravage is pretty well done and Shockwave is actually a real treat to behold.

Spider-Man is in this line too, nice!

Sludge looks awesome
Love the big gun and the alt mode articulation

With today's reveals, Arcee does look really good, and I am appreciative of the unique new alt mode, it is much more creative and I hope we see more of things like that.

Ironhide also looks really solid. I am looking forward to Ratchet, and I will look forward to him as well.

Both SS reveals today were very solid.

And there’s the remaining wave 2 reveals! Super excited for wave 3, I hope we get a Fan First reveal rather than unceremoniously dumped online months after they’ve been leaked.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:And there’s the remaining wave 2 reveals! Super excited for wave 3, I hope we get a Fan First reveal rather than unceremoniously dumped online months after they’ve been leaked.

No guarantee, but I'm hoping that since the last 2 waves got proper reveals well before retail release, that wave 3 of this year will also get that treatment proper.

So basically with Arcee and Ratchet coming out, that covers all the Autobots shown in the BB Movie correct? Now all Hasbro needs to make is a properly sized Shockwave, and they can repaint/retool the Starscream/Thrust mold to their hearts content with seekers. .

It's odd that Movie 1 is only missing a SS Frenzy, and Movie 6 is almost done as well. Still a LOT of ground to cover in movies 2-5,

o.supreme wrote:So basically with Arcee and Ratchet coming out, that covers all the Autobots shown in the BB Movie correct? Now all Hasbro needs to make is a properly sized Shockwave, and they can repaint/retool the Starscream/Thrust mold to their hearts content with seekers. .

It's odd that Movie 1 is only missing a SS Frenzy, and Movie 6 is almost done as well. Still a LOT of ground to cover in movies 2-5,

Pretty much.

Although, I would argue we need another attempt at Dropkick to give him his proper triple changing body design, even if he only turns into the chopper. Shatter nailed the triple changer look with only 1 alt mode, Dropkick needs that now too. Both have toys of both modes, both have a toy of their bodies in only car mode, and Shatter has the proper triple changing robot mode design. Just Dropkick baby...

We do have some gaps to fill, especially in TLK's direction.

RotF I think at this point only really needs the twins in both modes, Alice, Scalpel, and of course THE FALLEN.

DotM still somehow needs Que, Hatchet, a retooled Ironhide and Bumblebee, maybe a dropship, Devcon, and maybe some more generics from the cons arriving on earth?

AOE needs a new attempt at evasion mode Prime and Bee, the 3 Dinobots not called Grimlock, maybe a new attempt at Knight Prime and ninja Bee, a new Galvatron, and maybe another KSI generic design. I would also like a re-release of the shadow raider, I should have army built that guy. Ya know what, a retool of TLK Hound to match his AOE body and weapons would also be welcome.

TLK wise, we still need almost all the con crew, some of those generics using the scrapyard as a hiding place based on other robot mode designs, Infernocus and Quintessa, Canopy, and Hot Rod.

I also wouldn't mind a Titan Driller, and maybe a DotM retooled subline of Stealth Force characters, much like the BWII Cyborg retools.

Was really hoping that they would have shown off The Fallen. He is easily my most hyped figure of the year.

LinaNui wrote:Was really hoping that they would have shown off The Fallen. He is easily my most hyped figure of the year.

I'm surprised that they might actually do 3 waves of leaders this year. SS has never gotten that treatment

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:RotF I think at this point only really needs the twins in both modes, Alice, Scalpel, and of course THE FALLEN.

We know Fallen's on his way (as is DotM Bee), but we also still need Demolishor from Scavenger's mold (and they could do Payload/yellow Long Haul if they wanted).

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:AOE needs a new attempt at evasion mode Prime and Bee, the 3 Dinobots not called Grimlock, maybe a new attempt at Knight Prime and ninja Bee, a new Galvatron, and maybe another KSI generic design. I would also like a re-release of the shadow raider, I should have army built that guy. Ya know what, a retool of TLK Hound to match his AOE body and weapons would also be welcome.

Galvatron's coming, I would agree Hound is in order, and they could still do the KSI garage truck Junkheap to round out the KSI crew (since I don't expect to see a Two-Head anytime soon). They could also put out car Drift, since the only car Drift in SS so far was his TLK colors, but I think everything else listed here is higher-priority.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:TLK wise, we still need almost all the con crew, some of those generics using the scrapyard as a hiding place based on other robot mode designs, Infernocus and Quintessa, Canopy, and Hot Rod.

Not to mention Daytrader, Topsin with Leadfoot's head, and the WW2 guys from Anthony Hopkins' house. Maybe the submarine, if they're feeling ambitious? Hot Rod is coming though.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:RotF I think at this point only really needs the twins in both modes, Alice, Scalpel, and of course THE FALLEN.

We know Fallen's on his way (as is DotM Bee), but we also still need Demolishor from Scavenger's mold (and they could do Payload/yellow Long Haul if they wanted).

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:AOE needs a new attempt at evasion mode Prime and Bee, the 3 Dinobots not called Grimlock, maybe a new attempt at Knight Prime and ninja Bee, a new Galvatron, and maybe another KSI generic design. I would also like a re-release of the shadow raider, I should have army built that guy. Ya know what, a retool of TLK Hound to match his AOE body and weapons would also be welcome.

Galvatron's coming, I would agree Hound is in order, and they could still do the KSI garage truck Junkheap to round out the KSI crew (since I don't expect to see a Two-Head anytime soon). They could also put out car Drift, since the only car Drift in SS so far was his TLK colors, but I think everything else listed here is higher-priority.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:TLK wise, we still need almost all the con crew, some of those generics using the scrapyard as a hiding place based on other robot mode designs, Infernocus and Quintessa, Canopy, and Hot Rod.

Not to mention Daytrader, Topsin with Leadfoot's head, and the WW2 guys from Anthony Hopkins' house. Maybe the submarine, if they're feeling ambitious? Hot Rod is coming though.

Agreed on a lot said here. I would not mind it if the other 7 constructicons actually got repaints to make a full 2nd Devastator. Payload and Demolishor at bare minimum should be done for sure.

I think the AOE Drift works well enough for car mode Drift personally, but a re-release wouldn't hurt in the line.

I was hoping for a Junkheap, but also a Trax would be nice too. I still regret not army building KSI figures too, I was stupid at the wrong time in SS.

the WWII guys would be great, and Daytrader could be a Hound retool.

I think the HMS Alliance would be really neat to see happen. there is concept art of HMS Victory being a giant robot, and that would be cool itself, or as a basis for the Alliance's robot mode.

I also wouldn't mind a chance to see other robots from the historical paintings get retools into alt modes for those time periods. Give me an Ironhide that turns into a little ship, that would be awesome. So much potential there.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I think the AOE Drift works well enough for car mode Drift personally, but a re-release wouldn't hurt in the line.

A re-release for the sake of availability was exactly what I had in mind, yeah. They already repainted the existing car Drift mold for the TLK one they did anyway, I wouldn't expect a new mold now.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I think the AOE Drift works well enough for car mode Drift personally, but a re-release wouldn't hurt in the line.

A re-release for the sake of availability was exactly what I had in mind, yeah. They already repainted the existing car Drift mold for the TLK one they did anyway, I wouldn't expect a new mold now.

Hopefully they could make it nice like they did with KSI Boss

I’m hoping an eventual AOE Bugatti Drift is a new mold, I think they can improve the design with some more modern engineering. The reuse of AOE High Octane Bee does have me concerned, though.

Got a question: what are your hopes/expectations for the later figures this year?

For DOTM Bee I’m really hoping he has a new unmasked head (WWII Bee’s head sculpt is perfect, they can use that as a base and change up the helmet), and there’s quite a bit of retooling they need to do for Bee’s different look but I think the biggest one is the new harness piece on the chest, I’m curious how they handle that.

I’m not sure what to expect for Sideways, I’m guessing he’ll have his buzzsaws as weapons since they show up in the concept art. There’s rumors that he’ll be a Dino remold and I’m not sure how that would work, but we’ll have to see.

For The Fallen, I’m really hoping he has a removable face. Maybe a Matrix of Leadership with a little transparent stand so it floats in his hand?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:RotF I think at this point only really needs the twins in both modes, Alice, Scalpel, and of course THE FALLEN.

We know Fallen's on his way (as is DotM Bee), but we also still need Demolishor from Scavenger's mold (and they could do Payload/yellow Long Haul if they wanted).

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:AOE needs a new attempt at evasion mode Prime and Bee, the 3 Dinobots not called Grimlock, maybe a new attempt at Knight Prime and ninja Bee, a new Galvatron, and maybe another KSI generic design. I would also like a re-release of the shadow raider, I should have army built that guy. Ya know what, a retool of TLK Hound to match his AOE body and weapons would also be welcome.

Galvatron's coming, I would agree Hound is in order, and they could still do the KSI garage truck Junkheap to round out the KSI crew (since I don't expect to see a Two-Head anytime soon). They could also put out car Drift, since the only car Drift in SS so far was his TLK colors, but I think everything else listed here is higher-priority.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:TLK wise, we still need almost all the con crew, some of those generics using the scrapyard as a hiding place based on other robot mode designs, Infernocus and Quintessa, Canopy, and Hot Rod.

Not to mention Daytrader, Topsin with Leadfoot's head, and the WW2 guys from Anthony Hopkins' house. Maybe the submarine, if they're feeling ambitious? Hot Rod is coming though.

Agreed on a lot said here. I would not mind it if the other 7 constructicons actually got repaints to make a full 2nd Devastator. Payload and Demolishor at bare minimum should be done for sure.

I think the AOE Drift works well enough for car mode Drift personally, but a re-release wouldn't hurt in the line.

I was hoping for a Junkheap, but also a Trax would be nice too. I still regret not army building KSI figures too, I was stupid at the wrong time in SS.

the WWII guys would be great, and Daytrader could be a Hound retool.

I think the HMS Alliance would be really neat to see happen. there is concept art of HMS Victory being a giant robot, and that would be cool itself, or as a basis for the Alliance's robot mode.

I also wouldn't mind a chance to see other robots from the historical paintings get retools into alt modes for those time periods. Give me an Ironhide that turns into a little ship, that would be awesome. So much potential there.

Sounds cool,sometimes I still daydream about Devcon getting a toy.

While we had stock images for many of the toys shown on Fan first friday (the Buzzworthy Bumblebee Rereleases have been on [url-https://uk.hasbropulse.com/collections/transformers-action-figures-collectibles]Hasbro Pulse UK[/url] for a while), Hasbro did give us stock images for the upcoming Studio Series toys and these were new. So below you will find he images for SS Bumblebee Arcee, SS Bumblebee Iornhide, SS 86 Junkyard and SS 86 Sludge.

After seeing the reveal of these figures, I am genuinely excited for all of them, but if I'm honest, Sludge was the one that REALLY caught my attention, and I am more than happy to add him with the rest of his Dinobot brethren when he hits shelves.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:For The Fallen, I’m really hoping he has a removable face. Maybe a Matrix of Leadership with a little transparent stand so it floats in his hand?

I am hoping he will be huge, like 9-10 inches tall. They can put more in his size since he really doesn't transform. I also want him to have a removable face, staff that folds and can go through his head, and a matrix.

Given the lists above, I'm impressed they have fully completed the roster for the first film in the SS line. That's impressive for HasTak to actually finish something.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Given the lists above, I'm impressed they have fully completed the roster for the first film in the SS line. That's impressive for HasTak to actually finish something.

No frenzy

william-james88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Given the lists above, I'm impressed they have fully completed the roster for the first film in the SS line. That's impressive for HasTak to actually finish something.

No frenzy

Oh right. On the one hand, no great loss. On the other hand, which altmode should the figure have?

It's like the comments above regarding The Fallen. Technically they could simply make him in the RED line and state that is the SS iteration.

Either a pack in mini figure or a frenzy that turned into a portable cd player as a core class figure...or if hasbro were really smart, they'd have a to-scale Frenzy figure packed in with a larger version that turned into the cs player and sell it for Deluxe price.

It's been so long since I saw '07 I completely forgot about Frenzy. Can't imagine why...