Takara Will be Unveiling a New Premium Finish Bayverse Prime + PF Starscream Comparisons
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Also in Premium Finish news, we have shots showing PF Starscream next to the original Siege release. You'll let us know what you think and if it's different enough to add to your collection as maybe an additional seeker. Or even simply use this as your main Starscream. Those images come from @Ishikawa_sunday on Twitter.
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Posted by Emerje on February 9th, 2022 @ 3:04am CST
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 9th, 2022 @ 4:05am CST
EEEEEEEEEEeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhh...................
I'm curious about that Optimus Prime though. If it's the "ROTF" mold and he's awesome looking, I may buy it. It may be ironically cheaper than the normal release at after-market prices.
Posted by optimeow on February 9th, 2022 @ 8:35am CST
Then we can have a combined mode in PF.
That would be swesome
Posted by First-Aid on February 9th, 2022 @ 8:51am CST
optimeow wrote:I hope they release both Optimus and Jetfire in Premium Finish.
Then we can have a combined mode in PF.
That would be swesome
That may be the ONLY reason I'd buy a premium finish figure.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 9th, 2022 @ 8:55am CST
The battle damage on Starscream is a completely different pattern, one shared by no other use of the Siege Seeker mold (seriously, every single use of that mold has the exact same battle damage pattern).-Kanrabat- wrote:So, lowering the contrast of pale characters like Starscream and Ultra Magnus is "premium."
EEEEEEEEEEeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhh...................
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on February 9th, 2022 @ 9:18am CST
optimeow wrote:I hope they release both Optimus and Jetfire in Premium Finish.
Then we can have a combined mode in PF.
That would be swesome
I agree, that would be awesome!
I’m sure the final figure will be the SS-32 mold, but at least in the promo they’re using SS-05, which can’t combine and is a lot less accurate. They show him holding the Ion Blaster though, which was SS-32’s accessory (SS-05 had the Energon blades), so I think the actual figure itself will be the newer mold.
I’m so glad the premium finish line is still kicking specifically for this figure. I’m really excited to see what they do with it!
Posted by DeathReviews on February 9th, 2022 @ 9:21am CST
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on February 9th, 2022 @ 9:28am CST
Posted by Overcracker on February 9th, 2022 @ 9:45am CST
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:So turns out it is SS-05 (which is kinda unfortunate), those flames are gorgeous though. . .
Odd they did not go for SS-32. That guy really needs a re-release. With the insane prices he's going for.
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on February 9th, 2022 @ 10:45am CST
Overcracker wrote:
Odd they did not go for SS-32. That guy really needs a re-release. With the insane prices he's going for.
I know right? It just doesn’t make sense - SS-32 looks so much better in bot mode and combines with Jetfire, who is supposed to be the next PF release! I actually would’ve picked it up if it was the SS-32, but as is. . . I’m so disappointed they used the older mold.
Posted by Dragma Kerp on February 9th, 2022 @ 12:05pm CST
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:So turns out it is SS-05 (which is kinda unfortunate), those flames are gorgeous though. . .
Doesn't look much different from the normal SS-05 with ToyHax decals
Wish they re-release SS32 or SS44
Posted by Dragma Kerp on February 9th, 2022 @ 12:06pm CST
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:So turns out it is SS-05 (which is kinda unfortunate), those flames are gorgeous though. . .
Doesn't look much different from the normal SS-05 with ToyHax decals
Wish they re-release SS32 or SS44
Posted by Overcracker on February 9th, 2022 @ 12:48pm CST
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Overcracker wrote:
Odd they did not go for SS-32. That guy really needs a re-release. With the insane prices he's going for.
I know right? It just doesn’t make sense - SS-32 looks so much better in bot mode and combines with Jetfire, who is supposed to be the next PF release! I actually would’ve picked it up if it was the SS-32, but as is. . . I’m so disappointed they used the older mold.
Agreed. Unless they plan on releasing SS-32 in PF later on, I don't see the need of re-releasing this guy.
Posted by o.supreme on February 9th, 2022 @ 12:55pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 9th, 2022 @ 1:47pm CST
Overcracker wrote:EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Overcracker wrote:
Odd they did not go for SS-32. That guy really needs a re-release. With the insane prices he's going for.
I know right? It just doesn’t make sense - SS-32 looks so much better in bot mode and combines with Jetfire, who is supposed to be the next PF release! I actually would’ve picked it up if it was the SS-32, but as is. . . I’m so disappointed they used the older mold.
Agreed. Unless they plan on releasing SS-32 in PF later on, I don't see the need of re-releasing this guy.
#32 may look better in Robot Mode, but the Vehicle Mode has some problems as a trade-off, most notably the removal of the toolboxes behind the gas tanks:
...plus the clear plastic tabs and a more complex transformation would make anyone nervous.
Don't forget we also have #44: #32 mold plus the MechTech trailer from Dark of the Moon. That's a more suitable candidate for a PF re-release as the changes are more drastic.
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 9th, 2022 @ 3:17pm CST
This is available for preorder at Takara Tomy Mall for ¥6,380:
- https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810188308/
The Allspark also has listings for the various online links to buy both this and some of the new Legacy line figures.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 9th, 2022 @ 6:56pm CST
Sadly, as previously mentioned, as this figure uses the first Studio Series Optimus Prime tooling, he cannot combine with Jetfire or the Dark of the Moon trailer in robot mode, which is a shame as Jetfire is rumored to also be in the Premium Finish line.
With this reveal, Japanese importers have started to list the figure for a price of 6,380 yen (roughly $55 USD) with a late July 2022 release date.
Check out the images below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 9th, 2022 @ 7:05pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Thanks to Denkegi Hobby, we have our next reveal for the Premium Finish line, Transformers 2007 Optimus Prime! Optimus Prime, in a surprise twist, is a repaint of the SS-05 mold, the original Revenge of the Fallen figure that came with the pair of swords, instead of the later SS-32 figure which featured a more accurate chest and the ability to combine with Jetfire. This figure has been decked out in an incredible movie accurate paint job, and includes a pair of blasters that came with SS-32 and the swords that came with the original SS-05.
Sadly, as previously mentioned, as this figure uses the first Studio Series Optimus Prime tooling, he cannot combine with Jetfire or the Dark of the Moon trailer in robot mode, which is a shame as Jetfire is rumored to also be in the Premium Finish line.
With this reveal, Japanese importers have started to list the figure for a price of 6,380 yen (roughly $55 USD) with a late July 2022 release date.
Check out the images below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
Er, I literally just posted these pictures before your post. Didn't you check this thread before posting the news article? What am I missing here?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 9th, 2022 @ 7:07pm CST
primalxconvoy wrote:Er, I literally just posted these pictures before your post. Didn't you check this thread before posting the news article? What am I missing here?
Yes I do. I was writing the actual news that got front paged. My post with the news information was front paged. Your post was the photos, it wasn't a news post.
Posted by transformers_va on February 9th, 2022 @ 7:19pm CST
This is Seibertron.com... didn't you know that you have to actually write the news articles for them, citing all sources, and hand over your firstborn before getting credit for newsprimalxconvoy wrote:Er, I literally just posted these pictures before your post. Didn't you check this thread before posting the news article? What am I missing here?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 9th, 2022 @ 7:29pm CST
transformers_va wrote:This is Seibertron.com... didn't you know that you have to actually write the news articles for them, citing all sources, and hand over your firstborn before getting credit for newsprimalxconvoy wrote:Er, I literally just posted these pictures before your post. Didn't you check this thread before posting the news article? What am I missing here?
That's how your original post can be news without having to draft a new story. But usually, users post the source and pictures, which is fine, but someone has to write the story with all the information.
As for news credit, Evasion Mode Bumblebee was given credit since he posted in this thread first. I had originally sent this to news from work early this morning, before anyone commented in this thread, but if a user posts the information before I news it, I credit the first user to share. He isn't mentioned since the original source was shared, but the news credit source was given to him.
Sometimes, I don't check the thread before posting either because I have limited time, so sometimes a post can be missed. We usually go based off of news emails AKA when you report news via the many links on the site pages, thread posts are usually secondary or even tertiary checks for news.
As for PrimalxConvoy, you posted images after the news was shared via email and in the thread, so while you did share images, you were not first, and only 1 user, the first user, can be credited for news for a story.
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 9th, 2022 @ 7:30pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:Er, I literally just posted these pictures before your post. Didn't you check this thread before posting the news article? What am I missing here?
Yes I do. I was writing the actual news that got front paged. My post with the news information was front paged. Your post was the photos, it wasn't a news post.
I see. In the future, I suppose I had better leave posting the news to people like yourself, as I'm still confused as to how "posting photos of a new TF figure" isn't considered "news" and thus not worthy of recognition. To be honest, I'm more surprised you didn't cite Takara Tomy Mall and DimeChoc's sites. I would have been happier if they were included over me, as that's where I got the pictures/news from.
I'm also confused over posting news via email. I've done that in the past and I believe I was asked to post the information in a thread, so it seems it's a "Catch 22" for posting news here.
I think you can give news credits, or at least mentions to various people, or sources cited in emails/PMs/thread posts, moving forward. That would at least cover all bases, surely.
Regardless, I suppose this issue is better resolved or discussed in the "Ask the Staff" thread, so I'm happy to continue it there if need be.
Thank you for your time and explanation.
NOTE: The reply below was to an earlier draft of my reply above and this might not have answered all of my points. I've not answered the reply below in order to not take up this thread's space regarding this topic. The editing was not designed to make the reply below appear out of touch with my concerns (which I'm sure there's an internet term for; a form of "reverse ninja'd-aring"?).
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 9th, 2022 @ 7:35pm CST
primalxconvoy wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:Er, I literally just posted these pictures before your post. Didn't you check this thread before posting the news article? What am I missing here?
Yes I do. I was writing the actual news that got front paged. My post with the news information was front paged. Your post was the photos, it wasn't a news post.
I see. In the future, I suppose I had better leave posting the news to people like yourself, as I'm still confused as to how "posting photos of a new TF figure" isn't considered "news" and thus not worthy of recognition. To be honest, I'm more surprised you didn't cite Takara Tomy Mall and DimeChoc's sites. I would have been happier if they were included over me, as that's where I got the pictures/news from.
I really do not see how you didn't know the process, given how long you have been here, nor why this is an issue. Someone else shared the news first. Someone has to share the news for me to write it if I don't see it myself, which is about half the time. This was a case where I saw it first and used my source, which is a common source to use for Takara news for me, but still gave official credit to Evasion Mode Bee since he posted the news first in the thread and I saw it before i wrote the news story.
I appreciate you sharing the news, but you don't need to get annoyed when you are not named in the news story.
Posted by Seibertron on February 9th, 2022 @ 9:24pm CST
primalxconvoy wrote:In the future, I suppose I had better leave posting the news to people like yourself, as I'm still confused as to how "posting photos of a new TF figure" isn't considered "news" and thus not worthy of recognition.
It is news. We should be posting news articles with videos and galleries and user comparisons and all sorts of things. However, we're short staffed at the moment. If any of you want to join the team and help us out with posting news, we'd really appreciate it. There are some rules and guidelines to follow, but we could really use the help. Also looking for a news admin to kind of take over the whole "posting news" thing as well if anyone is interested.
primalxconvoy wrote:I'm also confused over posting news via email. I've done that in the past and I believe I was asked to post the information in a thread, so it seems it's a "Catch 22" for posting news here.
I appreciate the feedback. We're short staffed. The staff members we have are doing this in their spare time between their jobs and family life. They are doing the best that they can. If any of you are interested in helping, we could use a few more staff members helping us out. Please contact me if interested. Thanks.
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 9th, 2022 @ 9:36pm CST
Seibertron wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:In the future, I suppose I had better leave posting the news to people like yourself, as I'm still confused as to how "posting photos of a new TF figure" isn't considered "news" and thus not worthy of recognition.
It is news. We should be posting news articles with videos and galleries and user comparisons and all sorts of things. However, we're short staffed at the moment. If any of you want to join the team and help us out with posting news, we'd really appreciate it. There are some rules and guidelines to follow, but we could really use the help. Also looking for a news admin to kind of take over the whole "posting news" thing as well if anyone is interested.primalxconvoy wrote:I'm also confused over posting news via email. I've done that in the past and I believe I was asked to post the information in a thread, so it seems it's a "Catch 22" for posting news here.
I appreciate the feedback. We're short staffed. The staff members we have are doing this in their spare time between their jobs and family life. They are doing the best that they can. If any of you are interested in helping, we could use a few more staff members helping us out. Please contact me if interested. Thanks.
Thank you for the clarification.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on February 9th, 2022 @ 11:19pm CST
You know what would be cool, if unlikely? Premium Finish Unicron Trilogy reissues.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 10th, 2022 @ 4:39am CST
Still waiting for the DOTM/ROTF version.
Also, "short staffed..." Ha!
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 10th, 2022 @ 5:00am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Well, that Optimus is another pass for me.
Still waiting for the DOTM/ROTF version.
Also, "short staffed..." Ha!
Is there a universal/majority-felt "CHUG"-scaled Bayverse Optimus that SHOULD get a full "premium" treatment?
What does everyone think?
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 10th, 2022 @ 5:57am CST
primalxconvoy wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Well, that Optimus is another pass for me.
Still waiting for the DOTM/ROTF version.
Also, "short staffed..." Ha!
Is there a universal/majority-felt "CHUG"-scaled Bayverse Optimus that SHOULD get a full "premium" treatment?
What does everyone think?
A lot of fans seen the want SS-32 (which was the first version being compatible with SS Jetfire, allowing for the jet Prime combination)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 10th, 2022 @ 6:12am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Well, that Optimus is another pass for me.
Still waiting for the DOTM/ROTF version.
Also, "short staffed..." Ha!
Is there a universal/majority-felt "CHUG"-scaled Bayverse Optimus that SHOULD get a full "premium" treatment?
What does everyone think?
A lot of fans seen the want SS-32 (which was the first version being compatible with SS Jetfire, allowing for the jet Prime combination)
Im waiting for that one as well.
But as far as "CHUG" classic style goes, I think only the ER Optimus mold remains to be "premiumded".
Posted by griftimus prime on February 10th, 2022 @ 7:05am CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on February 10th, 2022 @ 9:00am CST
primalxconvoy said CHUG scale. Which, midgets like WFC Optimus notwithstanding, is still around 1/32 for carformers. And also specifically said Bayverse Optimus. The Bayverse Optimus in line with that scale would in fact be the ROTF Leader mold.-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Well, that Optimus is another pass for me.
Still waiting for the DOTM/ROTF version.
Also, "short staffed..." Ha!
Is there a universal/majority-felt "CHUG"-scaled Bayverse Optimus that SHOULD get a full "premium" treatment?
What does everyone think?
A lot of fans seen the want SS-32 (which was the first version being compatible with SS Jetfire, allowing for the jet Prime combination)
Im waiting for that one as well.
But as far as "CHUG" classic style goes, I think only the ER Optimus mold remains to be "premiumded".
Which, as it happens, got the premium treatment years ago in the Movie The Best series.
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 10th, 2022 @ 9:13am CST
Posted by optimeow on February 10th, 2022 @ 11:02am CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 11th, 2022 @ 4:11pm CST
#32 may look better in Robot Mode, but the Vehicle Mode has some problems as a trade-off, most notably the removal of the toolboxes behind the gas tanks:
Don't forget we also have #44: #32 mold plus the MechTech trailer from Dark of the Moon. That's a more suitable candidate for a PF re-release as the changes are more drastic.
SS32 also has a bad deco, like really bad, in both modes. SS 44 at least has better deco in Truck mode.
Posted by william-james88 on February 11th, 2022 @ 4:12pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:The battle damage on Starscream is a completely different pattern, one shared by no other use of the Siege Seeker mold (seriously, every single use of that mold has the exact same battle damage pattern).-Kanrabat- wrote:So, lowering the contrast of pale characters like Starscream and Ultra Magnus is "premium."
EEEEEEEEEEeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhh...................
Hotlink's is different.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 11th, 2022 @ 4:16pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The battle damage on Starscream is a completely different pattern, one shared by no other use of the Siege Seeker mold (seriously, every single use of that mold has the exact same battle damage pattern).-Kanrabat- wrote:So, lowering the contrast of pale characters like Starscream and Ultra Magnus is "premium."
EEEEEEEEEEeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhh...................
Hotlink's is different.
Sparkless Seeker A.K.A Shitstorm too.
The different Siege gribble dosent change the fact that "lowering the contrast" on a character =/= "premium."
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 11th, 2022 @ 4:34pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The battle damage on Starscream is a completely different pattern, one shared by no other use of the Siege Seeker mold (seriously, every single use of that mold has the exact same battle damage pattern).-Kanrabat- wrote:So, lowering the contrast of pale characters like Starscream and Ultra Magnus is "premium."
EEEEEEEEEEeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhh...................
Hotlink's is different.
Sparkless Seeker A.K.A Shitstorm too.
The different Siege gribble dosent change the fact that "lowering the contrast" on a character =/= "premium."
Arguably, the paint jobs on Hotlink and "Sparkless Seeker" (aka "Skyquake", aka "Airshock") are more akin to "weathering" (and can't even be thought of as simply their actual paint job, as Sparkless looks like he's camouflaged), rather than the metallic splurges found on the other seekers. The "Premium Finish" (sic) SS probably has the same "pixilated" effect too simulate battle damage that Megatron and Optimus did, right? Regardless, it just looks like a grey SS with little else changed to me.
Posted by GrangerPerry on February 11th, 2022 @ 5:46pm CST
Posted by Overcracker on February 16th, 2022 @ 4:14pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:primalxconvoy said CHUG scale. Which, midgets like WFC Optimus notwithstanding, is still around 1/32 for carformers. And also specifically said Bayverse Optimus. The Bayverse Optimus in line with that scale would in fact be the ROTF Leader mold.-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Well, that Optimus is another pass for me.
Still waiting for the DOTM/ROTF version.
Also, "short staffed..." Ha!
Is there a universal/majority-felt "CHUG"-scaled Bayverse Optimus that SHOULD get a full "premium" treatment?
What does everyone think?
A lot of fans seen the want SS-32 (which was the first version being compatible with SS Jetfire, allowing for the jet Prime combination)
Im waiting for that one as well.
But as far as "CHUG" classic style goes, I think only the ER Optimus mold remains to be "premiumded".
Which, as it happens, got the premium treatment years ago in the Movie The Best series.
Takara's Movie the Best line (awkward title) was pretty good for its time. It wasn't really any more expensive than the original figures. And they did get a really good coat of paint.
Just got MB-11 out of the back of the shelf for these pictures:
Posted by Emerje on April 11th, 2022 @ 12:32am CDT
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on April 11th, 2022 @ 12:11pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on April 11th, 2022 @ 8:46pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Though, the brightness of your lighting is making him look less Nemesis-y and more Ultra Magnus-y.
Quick and dirty photo, there was an LED ring a couple inches from his head. His actual colors are closer to the bottom of his legs, it's a very dark gray, not even close to white. Maybe I'll take some better photos in the morning.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on April 13th, 2022 @ 10:11am CDT
Emerje
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 13th, 2022 @ 4:39pm CDT
The Netflix one, it looks like Magnus was on the bad end of a Looney Tunes explosion.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 27th, 2022 @ 7:54pm CDT
Posted by RotorstormNZ on April 27th, 2022 @ 9:15pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on April 28th, 2022 @ 12:05am CDT
PF Megatron looks great though, I would like to pick it up. Hoping Ratchet gets here sometime soon!
Posted by Sabrblade on April 28th, 2022 @ 12:19am CDT
It's the robot feet on the top of the jet mode.RotorstormNZ wrote:Oh, wow, that's stunning!! What a beautiful figure! Although I have to know what's going on here:
Posted by RotorstormNZ on April 28th, 2022 @ 4:46pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It's the robot feet on the top of the jet mode.RotorstormNZ wrote:Oh, wow, that's stunning!! What a beautiful figure! Although I have to know what's going on here:
I should've been clearer: the weird blotch of silver paint on the nose is what I was asking about.