Official Images of New Takara Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee with Amazon Preorder

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

carytheone wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I guess we'll see when the box is revealed if it bears the logo or not

Or when G1 Cliffjumper is reissued

I'll do ya one better.

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Well played, my good man

The one's hidden in plain sight will always get ya

if it was a snake, it would've bit ya

Those Amazon photos make the backpack look less horrible than before, even if I still dislike the feet, but that price still make me baulk. £95 is an awful lot to drop on one toy that is only okay at best.

carytheone wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I guess we'll see when the box is revealed if it bears the logo or not

Or when G1 Cliffjumper is reissued

I'll do ya one better.

VDubbing it.jpg

Well caught Cary I would tip my hat to you... If I was wearing one.

Not my pic, but funny.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:The evidence that this would be a licenced product is the fact that the recent G1 toy reissue is licensed now, so it stands to reason that this will follow the same precedent

I'd consider that a bit of a formality, really, The Bumblebee Movie had realistic Beetles, thus it required its use. It's more like "Not an exact match, but we have a license, show it as a sign of goodwill."

I'm fairly certain that's what the brand team told me when I asked about the Volkswagen logo on the G1 Bumblebee package last year at SDCC.

You know what, if this new Bee came with the head Seibertron drew when he was 8 (the one in his profile pic) I would be WAAAAAY more into this figure.

and, @ the pic Sabrblade posted...

Seibertron wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:The evidence that this would be a licenced product is the fact that the recent G1 toy reissue is licensed now, so it stands to reason that this will follow the same precedent

I'd consider that a bit of a formality, really, The Bumblebee Movie had realistic Beetles, thus it required its use. It's more like "Not an exact match, but we have a license, show it as a sign of goodwill."

I'm fairly certain that's what the brand team told me when I asked about the Volkswagen logo on the G1 Bumblebee package last year at SDCC.

Isn't one of the main requirements for a properly licensed toy having the brand logo on it? That goes all the way back to RiD 2001 Side Burn.

Cobotron wrote:You know what, if this new Bee came with the head Seibertron drew when he was 8 (the one in his profile pic) I would be WAAAAAY more into this figure.

You guys have to stop planting bad ideas in my head.


The high res version was no longer available for me to copy from

carytheone wrote:

Cobotron wrote:You know what, if this new Bee came with the head Seibertron drew when he was 8 (the one in his profile pic) I would be WAAAAAY more into this figure.

You guys have to stop planting bad ideas in my head.

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The high res version was no longer available for me to copy from

SOLD!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:The evidence that this would be a licenced product is the fact that the recent G1 toy reissue is licensed now, so it stands to reason that this will follow the same precedent

I'd consider that a bit of a formality, really, The Bumblebee Movie had realistic Beetles, thus it required its use. It's more like "Not an exact match, but we have a license, show it as a sign of goodwill."

I'm fairly certain that's what the brand team told me when I asked about the Volkswagen logo on the G1 Bumblebee package last year at SDCC.

Isn't one of the main requirements for a properly licensed toy having the brand logo on it? That goes all the way back to RiD 2001 Side Burn.

No, the licensing in the west is not just about the logo but the shaoe of defining features such as headlights and the grill. With Sideburn since those features were too close to the real world version, Hasbro had to have the toy licensed to release it in the west. So since they had the proper licence (which Japan did not have) they were able to go all out and put the logo. They did not need to though.
Think of all those licenced western star Optimus toys that dont have the logo. And I dont remember seeing a Lancia logo on MP wheeljack ( though i may be wrong)

that magic moment when official images make a figure look even worse then in hand images do.

Dear Lord.... Amazon.jp is a scary place. Glad I finally found the language toggle....

If Amazon.jp ships hassle free to the US (at least)… they're really going to give the local importers a run for their money... 30% of MPs and Diaclone?!! sign me up!!!.

Just saved over $100 on several purchases (each) I was about to make State-Side T_T

360° turn-arounds for both modes from Takara's website.

https://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/products-lineup/tf_mp/mp-45




Amazing..



.. that this was done by Takara.





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Up for pre-order at BBTS.

119.99 bucks. No, thank you.

That this Bee is a mess of panels and a shameful shellformer, OK. But they could have added just 4 more panels to hide the mess of the feet and the sides of the back to make it forgivable.

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Dear Lord.... Amazon.jp is a scary place. Glad I finally found the language toggle....

If Amazon.jp ships hassle free to the US (at least)… they're really going to give the local importers a run for their money... 30% of MPs and Diaclone?!! sign me up!!!.

Just saved over $100 on several purchases (each) I was about to make State-Side T_T

I've ordered from them before myself but never got Free shipping, how'd you do it?

Rodimus Knight wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Dear Lord.... Amazon.jp is a scary place. Glad I finally found the language toggle....

If Amazon.jp ships hassle free to the US (at least)… they're really going to give the local importers a run for their money... 30% of MPs and Diaclone?!! sign me up!!!.

Just saved over $100 on several purchases (each) I was about to make State-Side T_T

I've ordered from them before myself but never got Free shipping, how'd you do it?

Rodimus Knight said he got HASSLE free shipping. That just means that there werent any problems with Japan shipping him the toy and it arrived in a good amount of time. The shipping wasnt free.

And I agree Rodimus Knight, it is scary. That's why I bought that Clear Green Unicron of Light. It was so much cheaper than everywhere else and the shipping was really minimal that it got the better of me and i made the purchase. Its a cool toy but not something I really nedded or would have bought if it wasnt so easy.

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Dear Lord.... Amazon.jp is a scary place. Glad I finally found the language toggle....

If Amazon.jp ships hassle free to the US (at least)… they're really going to give the local importers a run for their money... 30% of MPs and Diaclone?!! sign me up!!!.

Just saved over $100 on several purchases (each) I was about to make State-Side T_T

I've ordered from them before myself but never got Free shipping, how'd you do it?

Rodimus Knight said he got HASSLE free shipping. That just means that there werent any problems with Japan shipping him the toy and it arrived in a good amount of time. The shipping wasnt free.

And I agree Rodimus Knight, it is scary. That's why I bought that Clear Green Unicron of Light. It was so much cheaper than everywhere else and the shipping was really minimal that it got the better of me and i made the purchase. Its a cool toy but not something I really nedded or would have bought if it wasnt so easy.

The only thing scary about Amazon.jp is how much it dings up my wallet. I've made a couple orders from them. Shipping costs are reasonable, very fast and way better than the sellers (aliexpress/tfdirect) I deal with from China (slow and usually beat up, but almost always free). I give Amazon.jp prices are good and it's just like using your local Amazon... once you find the language setting.

Cyberpath wrote:360° turn-arounds for both modes from Takara's website.

https://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/products-lineup/tf_mp/mp-45

Amazing..



.. that this was done by Takara.

Given the state of this thing, this tune seems apt for these images

so yeah, it wasnt mistransformed at the show, just shot at angles that make him look like he is made up of mashed up bits. This confirms that is still true.

william-james88 wrote:so yeah, it wasnt mistransformed at the show, just shot at angles that make him look like he is made up of mashed up bits. This confirms that is still true.

Mashformation?

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Dear Lord.... Amazon.jp is a scary place. Glad I finally found the language toggle....

If Amazon.jp ships hassle free to the US (at least)… they're really going to give the local importers a run for their money... 30% of MPs and Diaclone?!! sign me up!!!.

Just saved over $100 on several purchases (each) I was about to make State-Side T_T

I've ordered from them before myself but never got Free shipping, how'd you do it?

Rodimus Knight said he got HASSLE free shipping. That just means that there werent any problems with Japan shipping him the toy and it arrived in a good amount of time. The shipping wasnt free.

And I agree Rodimus Knight, it is scary. That's why I bought that Clear Green Unicron of Light. It was so much cheaper than everywhere else and the shipping was really minimal that it got the better of me and i made the purchase. Its a cool toy but not something I really nedded or would have bought if it wasnt so easy.

I guess I misread the shipping comment, or misunderstood it. My bad.

I'm not sure where you're getting me saying it's scary though. Looks like you misread something too.

I've ordered before, and in truth they pack things better from Amazon.jp then they pack things here or even from Europe. Having ordered from Amazon from the UK and France, I can say they pack stuff worse then the US does.

Promotional video, mirrored by Planet Iacon - Singapore Transformers Fans Unite --

Greetings, fellow Seibertronians! We've known about the second version of Masterpiece Bumblebee for less than a week now. Nonetheless, Takara Tomy is wasting no time in ramping up the hype as best they can. Our own Seiberton.com member, Cyberpath, has tipped us off to a promotional video from Takara Tomy as posted to the Facebook site "Planet Iacon" by "Singapore Transformers Fans Unite." The video first reminds us that we are entering the 35th year celebration of the Transformers and that the party is kicking off with MP-44 Masterpiece Optimus Prime ver. 3.0! Then they roll right into their announcement of the follow up to the most cartoon accurate Optimus Prime toy they've ever produced, none other than MP-45 Transformers Masterpiece Bumblebee ver. 2.0! Takara Tomy then begins to show off their latest Masterpiece creation alongside stills and video clips from the original G1 cartoon, meant to showcase how screen accurate this new version of Bumblebee is supposed to be to his cartoon appearance in both alt mode and robot mode, very similar to the credo behind making a third Masterpiece version of Optimus Prime. The video also showcases the inspiration for several of the accessories accompanying MP-45, including a Spike Witwicky figure, Bumblebee's signature blaster (with plastic laser blast effect!), interchangeable facial expressions, and even an I NY license plate! MP-45, confirmed to be an officially licensed Volkswagen product, is slated to come out in September 2019 at the asking price of 13,000 JPY.

The link to the video can be found here:

https://www.facebook.com/Planetiacon.stfu/videos/542040579640250/

What are your feelings on this new Masterpiece offering from Takara Tomy? This seems to be a divisive issue with fans, so please, let us know what you think in the comments below. As always, stay tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest news on all things Transformers!

Cyberpath wrote:$85 on Anime-Export.

That's a much better price. But it's still way too much for this badly-designed piece of scrap.

Just got word from Hasbro that we can share those images again with all of you. Here are Hasbro's official product images of Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee.



Mp 45 Bumblebee 001


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Mp 45 Bumblebee 006


Mp 45 Bumblebee 007


Mp 45 Bumblebee 008

They sacrificed sculpt over a door gimmick. That sucks. There is no reason for the side door windows to be on the feet if the doors didn't open. They could have minimized the foot kibble.

Trikeboy wrote:They sacrificed sculpt over a door gimmick. That sucks. There is no reason for the side door windows to be on the feet if the doors didn't open. They could have minimized the foot kibble.

Where would the doors go instead, though? The backpack? It's already pretty big, and adding some more mass in there would make Bumblebee look more like a hunchback than a hatchback.

What the hell is that price?! I didn't pay that much for MP Barricade, Tracks, OR Roadrage! And they're excellent!

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:What the hell is that price?! I didn't pay that much for MP Barricade, Tracks, OR Roadrage! And they're excellent!

Roadrage is excellent? Her head doesnt even lock in place.

I finally figured out why the price is so high. Its BB and Spike and not just Spike. They made spike close to the original 3.75 inches and a cool measly 3-4 POA 4 if the head moves

Ultra Markus wrote:

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MP Ironhide and Ratchet have butts made out of tires, and MP Hound won't be available until months after MP Bumblebee 2.0. I think bots who live in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones.

Looks like hot garbage in my opinion.

ScottyP wrote:

carytheone wrote:Here's a question that popped into my head this morning. Did Takara or Hasbro expect this new Bee to be well received? One would assume so, otherwise why release it?

Based on what I've read here, at TFW and social media, it's getting universally panned and people are having a hard time finding any real positives. With that being said, is Takara and Hasbro completely oblivious to what fans want? Or are they just really cocky? If they are actually that out of touch, what does that say for the MP line as a whole?

If you sell half as many but raise the price by 100%, then you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning, but I, I got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because Optimus Prime KNOWS he can't beat me and he's not even gonna try! So Starscream, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus my 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning. But then you take my 75% chance of winning, if we was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, I got 141 2/3 chance of winning. See Starscream, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you it's all a wash?

Bee's growing on me, but I'll wait for it to hit half price on Amazon JP.

Emerje

My other two TF friends, having seen BEE 2.0 and the outrageous prices of Overpriced Prime and BB himself, have turned their backs on MP figures altogether. Both diehard Geewun fans.
The line is called "Masterpiece", as such the figures should look like something so well made it earns that moniker. This figure could be part of SIEGE and wouldn't look out of place. That's not a slight against SIEGE, just the lack of finesse with this "MP" BB.

This figure does not deserve to be called 'Masterpiece', either officially or unofficially. It's overpriced, under-engineered, has some paltry accessories. A nigh-total fail.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:This figure does not deserve to be called 'Masterpiece', either officially or unofficially. It's overpriced, under-engineered, has some paltry accessories. A nigh-total fail.

Yeah, this scream 'rush job' to me, especially as hound continues to tease us at all of these events

Big Grim wrote:Looks like hot garbage in my opinion.

How DARE you call this "hot garbage"?

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There's nothing "hot" about this.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:This figure does not deserve to be called 'Masterpiece', either officially or unofficially. It's overpriced, under-engineered, has some paltry accessories. A nigh-total fail.

Yeah, this scream 'rush job' to me, especially as hound continues to tease us at all of these events

I agree, it feels like they should have done better and could have. Hound was shown to us in JULY and here we are 7 months later and he's still just a gray prototype. I really feel he got pushed back, and maybe Bee was shoved in front of not just him, but Blackarachnia too. I think it was supposed to go Hound -> BA -> Bee, but they moved him to get released right after Prime

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I agree, it feels like they should have done better and could have. Hound was shown to us in JULY and here we are 7 months later and he's still just a gray prototype. I really feel he got pushed back, and maybe Bee was shoved in front of not just him, but Blackarachnia too. I think it was supposed to go Hound -> BA -> Bee, but they moved him to get released right after Prime

What's even weirder with Hound is that we HAVE seen painted samples already! We've had great at-show pics of him for months! And now they've gone back to showing him in gray, unpainted plastic. What the heckin' heck is going on?

Wolfman Jake wrote:And now they've gone back to showing him in gray, unpainted plastic.

The gray is actually primer, not plastic. They paint the figures gray to give them a uniform look instead of whatever random colors they molded them out of. We've even seen examples in the past of Takara Tomy painting Hasbro figures gray before they were ready to show off their own color schemes.

Emerje

I'll admit, I have no clue what factors into that rather high price.

william-james88 wrote:I'll admit, I have no clue what factors into that rather high price.

Takara being Takara. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

william-james88 wrote:I'll admit, I have no clue what factors into that rather high price.

Sheer rote stupidity and being massively short-sighted?

Ok so this is going to be pure hyperbole, but does anyone ever get the impression "they" are playing mind games with us? Like they are trying to desensitize our expectations?

For example, I was looking at one of those "expensive" non-transforming statues the other day (probably around $200) and I thought to myself that normally for that price I'd expect it to transform. That's when I realized that my expectations have been shifted.

Well played HasTak, well played

carytheone wrote:Ok so this is going to be pure hyperbole, but does anyone ever get the impression "they" are playing mind games with us? Like they are trying to desensitize our expectations?

For example, I was looking at one of those "expensive" non-transforming statues the other day (probably around $200) and I thought to myself that normally for that price I'd expect it to transform. That's when I realized that my expectations have been shifted.

Well played HasTak, well played

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I always thought like this, which is mostly why I never buy non-transforming figures or statues (The Imaginarium Arts Arcee may be an exception )

In the end, it all boils down to a few things: your preference, your income, and your attachment to the character