Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron
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It took a while but we now have the official images for Transformers Kingdom voyager Tigatron. Shiningstar7896 let us know about this. The images come from a listing on BBTS where you can preorder him for $33.99. He is due out October 2021, which means you could see him at retail any day now.
Listing: https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... ils/179903
Listing: https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... ils/179903
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Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117281)
Posted by william-james88 on October 1st, 2021 @ 9:03am CDT
Exactly how I feel about it. Kinda crazy that Scorponok got more love in this line than Terrorsaur.
Posted by william-james88 on October 1st, 2021 @ 9:03am CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:It just feels a bit lazy...or rushed.
Exactly how I feel about it. Kinda crazy that Scorponok got more love in this line than Terrorsaur.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117289)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on October 1st, 2021 @ 9:36am CDT
1. The listing of case contents was a mistake. As noted elsewhere in this thread, other retailers like Entertainment Earth had the correct case contents. I don't know how the listing went up in error, or why the information was wrong, but I am assuming this was a good faith attempt to open up sales on the new case. I have no reason to suspect this was an attempt to mislead customers. Mistakes happen, they are not an ethical failing in itself. They corrected the listing very quickly.
2. First, it's important to note that you had not been charged in this scenario. BBTS likely applied a temporary hold to your form of payment as a pre-authorization, but that is not an actual payment. BBTS does not collect payment until the item ships. You were not harmed in this case because you were able to cancel the order.
You may not find that convincing, so here's a more robust response. BBTS's Terms and Conditions lay out the explicit legal defense for this scenario.
https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Help/TermsConditions
"PRODUCT DESCRIPTIONS
BigBadToyStore attempts to be as accurate as possible. However, BigBadToyStore does not warrant that product descriptions or other content of any BigBadToyStore Service is accurate, complete, reliable, current, or error-free. If a product offered by BigBadToyStore is not as described, your sole remedy is to return it in unused condition."
"PRODUCT PRICING
In the event a product is listed at an incorrect price or with incorrect information due to typographical error or error in pricing or product information received from our suppliers, BigBadToyStore shall have the right to refuse or cancel any orders placed for product listed at the incorrect price. If your credit card has already been charged for the purchase and your order is canceled, your payment method will be refunded in the amount of the charge."
This is an assumption, but it's plausible that the case contents listing was provided by their supplier. I don't have insider information to support this, but it's a reasonable conclusion since their listing matched the rumored contents when these items were first revealed months ago.
There is a common belief among certain naive consumers that a retail purchase is some kind of oath bound in blood that cannot be modified under any circumstances. Yesterday, a website glitch caused a wide range of Target products worth up to hundreds of dollars to be listed for $14.99. Target generally did not honor transactions made during that period. While false advertising laws can sometimes compel a company to honor a listed price, the intended purpose of these guidelines is to prohibit certain forms of deception, not to punish retailers for good faith mistakes. There is no universal rule that mandates a retailer delivers what was listed, certainly not that would override BBTS's own disclaimers.
If you are a literal child, then I apologize for being so snarky. Welcome to the internet, please make better posts.
Otherwise, I genuinely encourage you to consider changing your perspective on adversity. Sometimes things happen that we don't like. Sometimes this is a result of intended harm, but often it's just life. Trying to contextualize a simple website error as a legal or ethical violation against you is not a very healthy response. This isn't from some insider perspective, it's as someone who tries to enjoy life to a reasonable extent.
If this is all a bad faith attempt at silly debate, well, have fun with that.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on October 1st, 2021 @ 9:36am CDT
God Sunstreaker wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:God Sunstreaker wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:God Sunstreaker wrote:I pre-ordered the kingdom deluxe wave 4 grouping on BBTS yesterday when it was listed with Pipes and Slammer. Today they changed the listing and instead of Pipes and Slammer there are secret characters listed in the place of Pipes and Slammer.
I attempted to find out what was going on. Despite the fact that Pipes and Slammer were a part of my order yesterday, BBTS won't confirm that today. Although apparently it's ok if cancel my order.
I'm pretty sure BBTS just jumped the gun using the original wave 4 case breakdown instead of the revised one that is actually being delivered. Pipes and Slammer were moved to wave 5 and replaced with Paleotrex and Tracks re-issues in wave 4. I'd cancel now.
That's an interesting point and while I can empathize with mistakes my point is different.
It's a question of moral and legal ethics. Is it morally ok or even legally ok to change someone's order? BBTS and I entered into an agreement. I pose that changing that agreement is ethically wrong and charging me for something I didn't agree to purchase is legally wrong. I also pose that ignoring their mistake and having the customer take action to correct the mistake is unethical.
Now I don't doubt that someone on Hasbro's payroll messed up it seems to me there were mistakes all around.
I'm sorry, there's nothing immoral or illegal going on here. It would have been good customer service for BBTS to notify you proactively, but that they didn't is not a moral failing and certainly doesn't qualify for any legal remedy.
I apologize that you're not getting the toy you wanted when you wanted it that everyone knew was listed an error, but if you're looking for a professional to help you with it, I would recommend a therapist before an ethicist or lawyer.
...
Questions:
1. For what reason is a seller's position to change an products order after it's placed morally ok?
2. How is it legally ok to charge someone for what they didn't agree to?
...
I will entertain another post by you but please stick to addressing the questions posed above and numbered 1 and 2.
1. The listing of case contents was a mistake. As noted elsewhere in this thread, other retailers like Entertainment Earth had the correct case contents. I don't know how the listing went up in error, or why the information was wrong, but I am assuming this was a good faith attempt to open up sales on the new case. I have no reason to suspect this was an attempt to mislead customers. Mistakes happen, they are not an ethical failing in itself. They corrected the listing very quickly.
2. First, it's important to note that you had not been charged in this scenario. BBTS likely applied a temporary hold to your form of payment as a pre-authorization, but that is not an actual payment. BBTS does not collect payment until the item ships. You were not harmed in this case because you were able to cancel the order.
You may not find that convincing, so here's a more robust response. BBTS's Terms and Conditions lay out the explicit legal defense for this scenario.
https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Help/TermsConditions
"PRODUCT DESCRIPTIONS
BigBadToyStore attempts to be as accurate as possible. However, BigBadToyStore does not warrant that product descriptions or other content of any BigBadToyStore Service is accurate, complete, reliable, current, or error-free. If a product offered by BigBadToyStore is not as described, your sole remedy is to return it in unused condition."
"PRODUCT PRICING
In the event a product is listed at an incorrect price or with incorrect information due to typographical error or error in pricing or product information received from our suppliers, BigBadToyStore shall have the right to refuse or cancel any orders placed for product listed at the incorrect price. If your credit card has already been charged for the purchase and your order is canceled, your payment method will be refunded in the amount of the charge."
This is an assumption, but it's plausible that the case contents listing was provided by their supplier. I don't have insider information to support this, but it's a reasonable conclusion since their listing matched the rumored contents when these items were first revealed months ago.
There is a common belief among certain naive consumers that a retail purchase is some kind of oath bound in blood that cannot be modified under any circumstances. Yesterday, a website glitch caused a wide range of Target products worth up to hundreds of dollars to be listed for $14.99. Target generally did not honor transactions made during that period. While false advertising laws can sometimes compel a company to honor a listed price, the intended purpose of these guidelines is to prohibit certain forms of deception, not to punish retailers for good faith mistakes. There is no universal rule that mandates a retailer delivers what was listed, certainly not that would override BBTS's own disclaimers.
If you are a literal child, then I apologize for being so snarky. Welcome to the internet, please make better posts.
Otherwise, I genuinely encourage you to consider changing your perspective on adversity. Sometimes things happen that we don't like. Sometimes this is a result of intended harm, but often it's just life. Trying to contextualize a simple website error as a legal or ethical violation against you is not a very healthy response. This isn't from some insider perspective, it's as someone who tries to enjoy life to a reasonable extent.
If this is all a bad faith attempt at silly debate, well, have fun with that.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117290)
Posted by Mistaken_Table on October 1st, 2021 @ 9:41am CDT
Posted by Mistaken_Table on October 1st, 2021 @ 9:41am CDT
The fact we're getting the entire season 1 Beast Wars cast by the end of next year is nothing shy of a miracle.
Apologies to anyone waiting for another G1 Optimus and tank Megatron, or the seeker from that 1 scene from the show that looked exactly like Thundercracker, but was standing next to Thundercracker so was a new character. We'll be out of your way shortly.
Who's excited for classics Starscream...with a cape?
Apologies to anyone waiting for another G1 Optimus and tank Megatron, or the seeker from that 1 scene from the show that looked exactly like Thundercracker, but was standing next to Thundercracker so was a new character. We'll be out of your way shortly.
Who's excited for classics Starscream...with a cape?
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117294)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on October 1st, 2021 @ 10:07am CDT
I mean, I'm excited for all of the Beast Wars season 1 cast AND the same Starscream I bought last year with a cape added. I can want G1 retreads and other classic series and new series and new characters, they're not in opposition with each other.
I also don't think the BW cast is a miracle, it was a reasonable assumption when Kingdom leaks included 80% of that cast that the others would follow. Now if we get all of the Transmetals and the Beast Machines lineup, THAT would be a miracle.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on October 1st, 2021 @ 10:07am CDT
Mistaken_Table wrote:The fact we're getting the entire season 1 Beast Wars cast by the end of next year is nothing shy of a miracle.
Apologies to anyone waiting for another G1 Optimus and tank Megatron, or the seeker from that 1 scene from the show that looked exactly like Thundercracker, but was standing next to Thundercracker so was a new character. We'll be out of your way shortly.
Who's excited for classics Starscream...with a cape?
I mean, I'm excited for all of the Beast Wars season 1 cast AND the same Starscream I bought last year with a cape added. I can want G1 retreads and other classic series and new series and new characters, they're not in opposition with each other.
I also don't think the BW cast is a miracle, it was a reasonable assumption when Kingdom leaks included 80% of that cast that the others would follow. Now if we get all of the Transmetals and the Beast Machines lineup, THAT would be a miracle.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117295)
Posted by o.supreme on October 1st, 2021 @ 10:18am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on October 1st, 2021 @ 10:18am CDT
I basically am in favor of any toy of a character that hasn't been released since T30. Now of course I have my preferences. I'd love to see updates of the entirety of the Original Transformers (1984-1992). *Action Masters as actual transforming characters are acceptable. But characters form the Japanese Continuity even more so. Then BW, then RiD, then UT. I don't need anything beyond that.
From the list of leaks thus far for 2022, it seems I'll be spending very little money on the mainline next year though, which is fine. I can save money to try and complete my *thankfully shrinking* backlog of older, very expensive, and hard to find items. But I am excited to see them, and excited for those who are happy to finally get "Character X" they've always wanted an update for.
From the list of leaks thus far for 2022, it seems I'll be spending very little money on the mainline next year though, which is fine. I can save money to try and complete my *thankfully shrinking* backlog of older, very expensive, and hard to find items. But I am excited to see them, and excited for those who are happy to finally get "Character X" they've always wanted an update for.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117296)
Posted by Mistaken_Table on October 1st, 2021 @ 10:49am CDT
Posted by Mistaken_Table on October 1st, 2021 @ 10:49am CDT
Sorry, I'm just glad to see the 3rd ever Tigatron. And us pettier Beast Wars fans do see it as competition. I was mainly responding to:
I hope you guys aren't saying this figure is lazy/rushed, 'cause its borderline masterpiece. Its not just another Cheetor, its blown up ~50%, given a second accessory and paint job and almost every square millimetre is remolded.
It just transforms the same, just like the 4-5 huffers we got this year (I've lost count.)
Wolfman Jake wrote:
It just feels a bit lazy...or rushed.
Exactly how I feel about it. Kinda crazy that Scorponok got more love in this line than Terrorsaur
I hope you guys aren't saying this figure is lazy/rushed, 'cause its borderline masterpiece. Its not just another Cheetor, its blown up ~50%, given a second accessory and paint job and almost every square millimetre is remolded.
It just transforms the same, just like the 4-5 huffers we got this year (I've lost count.)
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117302)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:11am CDT
Um, I think you might be mistaken about more than tables. Were you thinking Jake/Will were talking about Tigratron or Terrersour? Because I bet they would likely agree with you about Tigratron. And I can't see where any type of G1 versus BW competition even comes in when discussing only BW characters unless I'm missing someting.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:11am CDT
Mistaken_Table wrote:Sorry, I'm just glad to see the 3rd ever Tigatron. And us pettier Beast Wars fans do see it as competition. I was mainly responding to:Wolfman Jake wrote:
It just feels a bit lazy...or rushed.
Exactly how I feel about it. Kinda crazy that Scorponok got more love in this line than Terrorsaur
I hope you guys aren't saying this figure is lazy/rushed, 'cause its borderline masterpiece. Its not just another Cheetor, its blown up ~50%, given a second accessory and paint job and almost every square millimetre is remolded.
It just transforms the same, just like the 4-5 huffers we got this year (I've lost count.)
Um, I think you might be mistaken about more than tables. Were you thinking Jake/Will were talking about Tigratron or Terrersour? Because I bet they would likely agree with you about Tigratron. And I can't see where any type of G1 versus BW competition even comes in when discussing only BW characters unless I'm missing someting.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117303)
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:12am CDT
They were talking about Terrorsaur, not Tigatron.
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:12am CDT
Mistaken_Table wrote:Sorry, I'm just glad to see the 3rd ever Tigatron. And us pettier Beast Wars fans do see it as competition. I was mainly responding to:Wolfman Jake wrote:
It just feels a bit lazy...or rushed.
Exactly how I feel about it. Kinda crazy that Scorponok got more love in this line than Terrorsaur
I hope you guys aren't saying this figure is lazy/rushed, 'cause its borderline masterpiece. Its not just another Cheetor, its blown up ~50%, given a second accessory and paint job and almost every square millimetre is remolded.
It just transforms the same, just like the 4-5 huffers we got this year (I've lost count.)
They were talking about Terrorsaur, not Tigatron.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117304)
Posted by Overcracker on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:25am CDT
I am. I did not get the original Starscream release in Earthrise, so I'm glad I can get it here with extra accessories and hand articulation.
Also, it's not Classics Starscream at all. Just because you don't care for it, does not mean other's aren't excited to get it. It's a coronation Starscream that is not at masterpiece prices.
Posted by Overcracker on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:25am CDT
Mistaken_Table wrote:The fact we're getting the entire season 1 Beast Wars cast by the end of next year is nothing shy of a miracle.
Apologies to anyone waiting for another G1 Optimus and tank Megatron, or the seeker from that 1 scene from the show that looked exactly like Thundercracker, but was standing next to Thundercracker so was a new character. We'll be out of your way shortly.
Who's excited for classics Starscream...with a cape?
I am. I did not get the original Starscream release in Earthrise, so I'm glad I can get it here with extra accessories and hand articulation.
Also, it's not Classics Starscream at all. Just because you don't care for it, does not mean other's aren't excited to get it. It's a coronation Starscream that is not at masterpiece prices.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117307)
Posted by Rtron on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:36am CDT
Posted by Rtron on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:36am CDT
Terrorsaur makes me even more puzzled about what the hell happened with Rhinox's headsculpt. The Terrorsaur figure may be somewhat disappointing as a whole, but the headsculpt is amazing, as it's been the case so far for all the Beast Wars characters... Except for Rhinox. Very weird. Oh well, I'm glad the rest came out great.
I think what seems most likely here with Terrorsaur is that he had to be a remold to fit the budget for the whole exclusivity deal. A shame, as he deserved his own sculpt. I do think they did the best they could with the remolding. However, that is not the case with the paint, I think they messed up their priorities a bit. Would've rather had an unpainted gun and no details in forearms and shins, in exchange for silver upper arms and thighs.
I think what seems most likely here with Terrorsaur is that he had to be a remold to fit the budget for the whole exclusivity deal. A shame, as he deserved his own sculpt. I do think they did the best they could with the remolding. However, that is not the case with the paint, I think they messed up their priorities a bit. Would've rather had an unpainted gun and no details in forearms and shins, in exchange for silver upper arms and thighs.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117308)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:36am CDT
Posted by Till-all-R1 on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:36am CDT
For some reason Tigatron was my favorite Maximal, perhaps due to him being a white tiger as well as a more peaceful and in tune with nature type of character. And this figure turned out really nice! I absolutely love the fact they have more articulations versus the originals which makes for some fantastic looking poses, if I were ever to buy nay BW figures Tigatron would be the one! Cheetor and Rhinox would be a close second, and always thought Blackarachnia was an interesting design. As cool looking as they are I just can't get caught up in more sublines due to such limited space, because if i know anyhting it never ends with just one or three bots and you end up having to collect the whole lineup! lol
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117309)
Posted by o.supreme on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:48am CDT
Same. I often say if Dinobot was Wolverine, then Tigatron was Colossus (albeit not quite as strong). But Tigatron was a character that was a strong warrior, but preferred peace. I kind of wish Dinobot and Tigatron had a bit more interaction (I think "Law of the Jungle" was one of the only times?) .
He was the breakthrough character for me. Although the original 10 characters were great in their own ways, I never really strongly identified with any one of them. I also recall when Tigatron and Airazor were first abducted mid-way through S2, I believed strongly they would be back in some form, though the prevailing consensus online was they they were boring characters that just needed to be removed. Tigerhawk was my Vindication, and I loved it! Of course they pulled the whole *gotta eliminate the strongest character* card, but still, Tigatron/Tigerhawk is my favorite BW show character to this day.
Posted by o.supreme on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:48am CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:For some reason Tigatron was my favorite Maximal, perhaps due to him being a white tiger as well as a more peaceful and in tune with nature type of character.
Same. I often say if Dinobot was Wolverine, then Tigatron was Colossus (albeit not quite as strong). But Tigatron was a character that was a strong warrior, but preferred peace. I kind of wish Dinobot and Tigatron had a bit more interaction (I think "Law of the Jungle" was one of the only times?) .
He was the breakthrough character for me. Although the original 10 characters were great in their own ways, I never really strongly identified with any one of them. I also recall when Tigatron and Airazor were first abducted mid-way through S2, I believed strongly they would be back in some form, though the prevailing consensus online was they they were boring characters that just needed to be removed. Tigerhawk was my Vindication, and I loved it! Of course they pulled the whole *gotta eliminate the strongest character* card, but still, Tigatron/Tigerhawk is my favorite BW show character to this day.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117310)
Posted by King Kuuga on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:53am CDT
Posted by King Kuuga on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:53am CDT
Today, on Seibertron.com: People can enjoy more than one part of the brand. Amazing!
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117311)
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:55am CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:55am CDT
At least tigatron has some more painted stripes on his rear animal upper legs to blend into the body in tiger mode unlike the golden disc version. Shame though because I'd only want the golden disc version and stick to MP for him.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117312)
Posted by Jinx Riotcrash on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:59am CDT
Posted by Jinx Riotcrash on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:59am CDT
This is an easy pass for me, but a painful one. I wanted Tigatron, and it looks like they did him justice UNTIL I see the Hasbro "dirt fetish" has hit him HARD. It's like how Hasbro sand-blasts pearly white Stormtroopers in filth. You can't even remove the dirt off Tigatron with nail polish remover without killing his stripes too.
Maybe there'll be a japanese release or something later on that fixes what Hasbro's ruined here. It's a no-buy until then.
Maybe there'll be a japanese release or something later on that fixes what Hasbro's ruined here. It's a no-buy until then.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117315)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 1st, 2021 @ 12:11pm CDT
Indeed, Will and I were bemoaning Terrorsaur. Tigatron, however, looks fantastic and is a contender for the "Mini Masterpiece" mantel. I want one yesterday!
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 1st, 2021 @ 12:11pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Mistaken_Table wrote:Sorry, I'm just glad to see the 3rd ever Tigatron. And us pettier Beast Wars fans do see it as competition. I was mainly responding to:Wolfman Jake wrote:
It just feels a bit lazy...or rushed.
Exactly how I feel about it. Kinda crazy that Scorponok got more love in this line than Terrorsaur
I hope you guys aren't saying this figure is lazy/rushed, 'cause its borderline masterpiece. Its not just another Cheetor, its blown up ~50%, given a second accessory and paint job and almost every square millimetre is remolded.
It just transforms the same, just like the 4-5 huffers we got this year (I've lost count.)
They were talking about Terrorsaur, not Tigatron.
Indeed, Will and I were bemoaning Terrorsaur. Tigatron, however, looks fantastic and is a contender for the "Mini Masterpiece" mantel. I want one yesterday!
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117317)
Posted by william-james88 on October 1st, 2021 @ 12:20pm CDT
BBTS made a mistake and corrected it quickly so that you can cancel in time if you want.
If your not happy, you can call them and ask to talk to the manager.
Posted by william-james88 on October 1st, 2021 @ 12:20pm CDT
God Sunstreaker wrote:And Of course, I'm curious about more opinions and ideas from everyone. I'm intrigued about people's sense of morality and judgement.
Thanks.
BBTS made a mistake and corrected it quickly so that you can cancel in time if you want.
If your not happy, you can call them and ask to talk to the manager.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117321)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on October 1st, 2021 @ 12:53pm CDT
And when they newsed the listings going up online they specifically called out the BBTS ones not matching:
Posted by Nemesis Primal on October 1st, 2021 @ 12:53pm CDT
I understand that this part was not directed at me, since I was neither who you responded to nor a member of the news team here, and I don't know that I have answers for the whole morality thing that you keep bringing up, but saying that you didn't know that the wave breakdown on BBTS was wrong because the news team didn't know/tell you seems inaccurate. The news team reported that the wave 4 contents were changing at the beginning of this month: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ion/46286/God Sunstreaker wrote:Lastly I'd like to address your point that everyone knew what the wave was. No that seems like you specifically have insider knowledge or you believe that what you believe is the way the world is and if people disagree with you that you're wrong. It's a nice position to have from your point of few but let's break that down with simple logic.
-"everyone" knew. That implies that I am not included in everyone. This very website's news posted information on what the possibly of the wave included. BBTS was selling one entire wave. So everyone at the very least does not include me, the individuals at Seibertron.com responsible for posting the news, and the people working at BBTS that are responsible for posting products on their website. That logically invalidates the comment of "everyone"
And when they newsed the listings going up online they specifically called out the BBTS ones not matching:
Nobody here had any insider info, all of the info we had was publicly visible and you either missed it or misread it.There are preorders for wave 4 in a few places but the case contents are not the same everywhere. BBTS, for sintance, shows Slammer and Pipes in wave 4 while Entertainment Earth shows it being the same as we found at retail recently with the following case content:
2x Paleotrex
2x TRA GEN WFC K DELUXE TRACKS
2x TRA GEN WFC K DELUXE SHADOW PANTHER
2x TRA GEN WFC K DELUXE WASPINATOR
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117322)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 1st, 2021 @ 12:54pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 1st, 2021 @ 12:54pm CDT
So the main complaint about Terrausaur is that he's not a voyager?
Dunno if he was as big as Dinobot, but the deluxe look like a real mini-MP and it's light years superior to the gimicky Basic original.
So for me, Terrosaur can't be more perfect and he'll be worth the extra dollars by importing him from the USA.
Dunno if he was as big as Dinobot, but the deluxe look like a real mini-MP and it's light years superior to the gimicky Basic original.
So for me, Terrosaur can't be more perfect and he'll be worth the extra dollars by importing him from the USA.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117328)
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 1st, 2021 @ 1:20pm CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 1st, 2021 @ 1:20pm CDT
I really liked the old basic terrorsaur but as much as I wanted the new one to be a voyager for scale purposes and maybe pulling off more of the show look, deluxe means it goes with my other basics deluxes (Bat convoy, Airrazor, customised TR Skullcruncher Megatron).
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117330)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 1st, 2021 @ 1:22pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 1st, 2021 @ 1:22pm CDT
In other news, Tricranius is now back in stock on Hasbro Pulse. Got me an order in.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117334)
Posted by Mistaken_Table on October 1st, 2021 @ 1:36pm CDT
Okay, that's fine. Terrorsaur isn't bad, but yeah he's not a brand new mold. Damn it, got my hackles up for nuthin'.
Posted by Mistaken_Table on October 1st, 2021 @ 1:36pm CDT
Indeed, Will and I were bemoaning Terrorsaur. Tigatron, however, looks fantastic and is a contender for the "Mini Masterpiece" mantel. I want one yesterday!
Okay, that's fine. Terrorsaur isn't bad, but yeah he's not a brand new mold. Damn it, got my hackles up for nuthin'.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117336)
Posted by Flashwave on October 1st, 2021 @ 1:57pm CDT
1.1)Because they didnt actually change the order. Your order pledge was for "Wave 4 Case" you paid for the box. What was supposed to be in the box changed but at the end of the day BBTS was going to ship you EXACTLY what you to use your words, agreed to pay for "wave 4 Case"
1.1a) Now, if you had ordered all 4 characters in the original listing SEPARATELY, not as a Qave Four Case but as the boxed figures themselves and BBTS deliberately changed a Waspinator into a Combiner Wars Alpha Bravo then your argument would have merit.
1.2) in this case, it does look like BBTS was working on false information or made a mistake, but it is important to remember here that BBTS does not define the case contents. Hasbro does. You are buying the same box Hasbro sent BBTS and we all know Hasbro can and will reserve the right to alter Case Contents as production requires.
2) Because they are charging you for what you agreed to pay for. You just are not getting what you think you are getting. See above.
Posted by Flashwave on October 1st, 2021 @ 1:57pm CDT
God Sunstreaker wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:God Sunstreaker wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:God Sunstreaker wrote:I pre-ordered the kingdom deluxe wave 4 grouping on BBTS yesterday when it was listed with Pipes and Slammer. Today they changed the listing and instead of Pipes and Slammer there are secret characters listed in the place of Pipes and Slammer.
I attempted to find out what was going on. Despite the fact that Pipes and Slammer were a part of my order yesterday, BBTS won't confirm that today. Although apparently it's ok if cancel my order.
I'm pretty sure BBTS just jumped the gun using the original wave 4 case breakdown instead of the revised one that is actually being delivered. Pipes and Slammer were moved to wave 5 and replaced with Paleotrex and Tracks re-issues in wave 4. I'd cancel now.
That's an interesting point and while I can empathize with mistakes my point is different.
It's a question of moral and legal ethics. Is it morally ok or even legally ok to change someone's order? BBTS and I entered into an agreement. I pose that changing that agreement is ethically wrong and charging me for something I didn't agree to purchase is legally wrong. I also pose that ignoring their mistake and having the customer take action to correct the mistake is unethical.
Now I don't doubt that someone on Hasbro's payroll messed up it seems to me there were mistakes all around.
I'm sorry, there's nothing immoral or illegal going on here. It would have been good customer service for BBTS to notify you proactively, but that they didn't is not a moral failing and certainly doesn't qualify for any legal remedy.
I apologize that you're not getting the toy you wanted when you wanted it that everyone knew was listed an error, but if you're looking for a professional to help you with it, I would recommend a therapist before an ethicist or lawyer.
You seem very sure of yourself.
I have to ask was your answer coming from some insider knowledge at Hasbro? Do you have some perspective in retail where you empathize with a retailer?
It's interesting how your argument starts out with an apology directed at me and then implies that the only help I can get is to change my perspective. Also, implying in insult, which is unfortunate. Although this is the internet.
In a debate about morality and ethics addressing the issue's specifics would help me or anyone else understanding your position. I understand the attacking the person posing the question is the easy approach and by doing so, it makes you or others think the question itself is invalid.
So let's try again with your response and see if you can come up with something a little more useful.
Questions:
1. For what reason is a seller's position to change an products order after it's placed morally ok?
2. How is it legally ok to charge someone for what they didn't agree to?
Thanks.
1.1)Because they didnt actually change the order. Your order pledge was for "Wave 4 Case" you paid for the box. What was supposed to be in the box changed but at the end of the day BBTS was going to ship you EXACTLY what you to use your words, agreed to pay for "wave 4 Case"
1.1a) Now, if you had ordered all 4 characters in the original listing SEPARATELY, not as a Qave Four Case but as the boxed figures themselves and BBTS deliberately changed a Waspinator into a Combiner Wars Alpha Bravo then your argument would have merit.
1.2) in this case, it does look like BBTS was working on false information or made a mistake, but it is important to remember here that BBTS does not define the case contents. Hasbro does. You are buying the same box Hasbro sent BBTS and we all know Hasbro can and will reserve the right to alter Case Contents as production requires.
2) Because they are charging you for what you agreed to pay for. You just are not getting what you think you are getting. See above.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117338)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 1st, 2021 @ 2:13pm CDT
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 1st, 2021 @ 2:13pm CDT
I would add:
1.1b) In the event 1.1a happens, you don't complain. You put that on eBay as quickly as possible.
1.1b) In the event 1.1a happens, you don't complain. You put that on eBay as quickly as possible.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117347)
Posted by william-james88 on October 1st, 2021 @ 3:34pm CDT
Not as hot as he once was it seems
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.ca%2Fitm%2F294357015599%3Fha%20...%20SwoYZhErUO%3C%2Fa%3E%26
Posted by william-james88 on October 1st, 2021 @ 3:34pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:I would add:
1.1b) In the event 1.1a happens, you don't complain. You put that on eBay as quickly as possible.
Not as hot as he once was it seems
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.ca%2Fitm%2F294357015599%3Fha%20...%20SwoYZhErUO%3C%2Fa%3E%26
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117356)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 1st, 2021 @ 4:04pm CDT
Well, if it was an oops from BBTS, I assume it would be new which would still net you a profit, but not as much at it once would. I found one for $75 for AB alone and another for AB and Skydive for $65 as the only 2 available.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 1st, 2021 @ 4:04pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:I would add:
1.1b) In the event 1.1a happens, you don't complain. You put that on eBay as quickly as possible.
Not as hot as he once was it seems
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.ca%2Fitm%2F294357015599%3Fha%20...%20SwoYZhErUO%3C%2Fa%3E%26
Well, if it was an oops from BBTS, I assume it would be new which would still net you a profit, but not as much at it once would. I found one for $75 for AB alone and another for AB and Skydive for $65 as the only 2 available.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117369)
Posted by william-james88 on October 1st, 2021 @ 5:35pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 1st, 2021 @ 5:35pm CDT
Attempting to transform Kingdom Rhinox without the instructions is one of my dumber decisions.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117372)
Posted by Triggerdick Megatron on October 1st, 2021 @ 6:06pm CDT
Posted by Triggerdick Megatron on October 1st, 2021 @ 6:06pm CDT
I'm loving Tigatron, I'm surprised he doesn't have saber teeth like in previous WFCK art which is fine. He looks better as a modern day tiger. I will sooo be picking him up! A great character and I love tigers.
As for Terrorsaur, I will say he looks better in robot mode, the pterosaur mode looks a little bit off. I'm not saying he's awful, it would have been better if he were not based on Air Razor. I will still get it though.
As for Terrorsaur, I will say he looks better in robot mode, the pterosaur mode looks a little bit off. I'm not saying he's awful, it would have been better if he were not based on Air Razor. I will still get it though.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117380)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 1st, 2021 @ 9:00pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 1st, 2021 @ 9:00pm CDT
Was a little bit behind on the news due to RL taking priority as of late, but the total reveal of the Golden Disk Collection left me with mixed feelings overall:
- Mutant Tigatron is clever in its execution
- Jackpot and Sights were unexpected, though funnily enough, the previous Jackpot was based on a Jazz as well:
Transformers Subscription Service Jackpot Gallery
- Terrorsaur based on Airazor... Wow, not in a good way.
- Mutant Tigatron is clever in its execution
- Jackpot and Sights were unexpected, though funnily enough, the previous Jackpot was based on a Jazz as well:
Transformers Subscription Service Jackpot Gallery
- Terrorsaur based on Airazor... Wow, not in a good way.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117383)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:51pm CDT
Indeed. I had to cave-in and use the instructions pretty early on, despite having watched several reviews which showed the transformation. Kingdom Rhinox is perhaps the most difficult conversion to learn in the whole War for Cybertron Trilogy.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 1st, 2021 @ 11:51pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Attempting to transform Kingdom Rhinox without the instructions is one of my dumber decisions.
Indeed. I had to cave-in and use the instructions pretty early on, despite having watched several reviews which showed the transformation. Kingdom Rhinox is perhaps the most difficult conversion to learn in the whole War for Cybertron Trilogy.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117392)
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on October 2nd, 2021 @ 2:14am CDT
It's not Difficult in an interesting way, it's difficult in a "clearance wasn't designed". He really feels like the ER Arcee of Kingdom (which is funny because she's also in Kingdom).
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on October 2nd, 2021 @ 2:14am CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:william-james88 wrote:Attempting to transform Kingdom Rhinox without the instructions is one of my dumber decisions.
Indeed. I had to cave-in and use the instructions pretty early on, despite having watched several reviews which showed the transformation. Kingdom Rhinox is perhaps the most difficult conversion to learn in the whole War for Cybertron Trilogy.
It's not Difficult in an interesting way, it's difficult in a "clearance wasn't designed". He really feels like the ER Arcee of Kingdom (which is funny because she's also in Kingdom).
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117402)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 2nd, 2021 @ 9:02am CDT
What sets Rhinox apart from Arcee, though, is everything else. He's a sturdy figure, the kibble backpack is minimal, and most everything does tab together well once it's in place. Arcee is made of thin plastic, the origami is easy to understand, but doesn't fit together well because of tolerance issues, and most of the robot is literally just crammed into the car shell however you can manage. It's trash.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 2nd, 2021 @ 9:02am CDT
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:william-james88 wrote:Attempting to transform Kingdom Rhinox without the instructions is one of my dumber decisions.
Indeed. I had to cave-in and use the instructions pretty early on, despite having watched several reviews which showed the transformation. Kingdom Rhinox is perhaps the most difficult conversion to learn in the whole War for Cybertron Trilogy.
It's not Difficult in an interesting way, it's difficult in a "clearance wasn't designed". He really feels like the ER Arcee of Kingdom (which is funny because she's also in Kingdom).
What sets Rhinox apart from Arcee, though, is everything else. He's a sturdy figure, the kibble backpack is minimal, and most everything does tab together well once it's in place. Arcee is made of thin plastic, the origami is easy to understand, but doesn't fit together well because of tolerance issues, and most of the robot is literally just crammed into the car shell however you can manage. It's trash.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117429)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 2nd, 2021 @ 2:46pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 2nd, 2021 @ 2:46pm CDT
I may had a brain fart but I don't remember at all if the tower of the Ark's spaceship mode was in my box or if I ever plugged it in. One thing is sure is that after seeing a video about the upgrade kit, I was aware of that tower's existence and I went to check on my Ark. There was none and the part was nowhere to be found.
Because he's annoying to transform due to those popping underbelly panels, the overall feel was just ordinary, and I just HATE having an incomplete toy of that price, I returned the whole thing to Amazon for a full refund.
No matter if the initial deal was good, I'm not buying the Ark back.
Haslab Victory Saber X2 won't pay themselves after all.
Because he's annoying to transform due to those popping underbelly panels, the overall feel was just ordinary, and I just HATE having an incomplete toy of that price, I returned the whole thing to Amazon for a full refund.
No matter if the initial deal was good, I'm not buying the Ark back.
Haslab Victory Saber X2 won't pay themselves after all.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117431)
Posted by Hero Alpha on October 2nd, 2021 @ 3:00pm CDT
Posted by Hero Alpha on October 2nd, 2021 @ 3:00pm CDT
These Golden Disc sets are pretty sweet. Mutant Tigatron looks awesome and Jackpot/Sights are nice too. I really like Generations Action Masters, TFCC Treadshot/Catgut are still figures I mess with a lot and love. However Terrorsaur is the only one I pre-ordered. Thru all the reveals I kept waiting for an actual Golden Disc to be in these and finally it showed up. Very good luck for me since its included with the one figure I wanted of these. I thought I was gonna have to try ebay to gets one from an Ark.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117442)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 2nd, 2021 @ 4:50pm CDT
It's inside a panel that flips out. It's not a separate accessory. Look beside that nub in spaceship mode.
It's also in the Ark set.
Anyway, I finally got Kingdom Rodimus. After opening him up I gotta say he's definitely not a voyager class figure. Maybe Roddy alone could be leader class. He's just so much better than I thought he'd be. I guess it's time for Protector to move over.
The face sculpt, though. I know Roddy was never happy about being leader, but jeez. I also think the chin sticks out too much and interferes with movement thanks to that collar.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 2nd, 2021 @ 4:50pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:I may had a brain fart but I don't remember at all if the tower of the Ark's spaceship mode was in my box or if I ever plugged it in.
It's inside a panel that flips out. It's not a separate accessory. Look beside that nub in spaceship mode.
Moonshot wrote:Thru all the reveals I kept waiting for an actual Golden Disc to be in these and finally it showed up.
It's also in the Ark set.
Anyway, I finally got Kingdom Rodimus. After opening him up I gotta say he's definitely not a voyager class figure. Maybe Roddy alone could be leader class. He's just so much better than I thought he'd be. I guess it's time for Protector to move over.
The face sculpt, though. I know Roddy was never happy about being leader, but jeez. I also think the chin sticks out too much and interferes with movement thanks to that collar.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117444)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 2nd, 2021 @ 5:08pm CDT
Well, fok.
Regardless, I didn't appreciate it that much and it's already on it's way to Amazon HQ. So meh, not a big loss. Those underbelly panels would get lost sooner or later anyway.
Honestly, after Black Zarak I may be done with Titan.
That is, unless Cybertron Metroplex would be too awesome to pass.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 2nd, 2021 @ 5:08pm CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I may had a brain fart but I don't remember at all if the tower of the Ark's spaceship mode was in my box or if I ever plugged it in.
It's inside a panel that flips out. It's not a separate accessory. Look beside that nub in spaceship mode.
Well, fok.
Regardless, I didn't appreciate it that much and it's already on it's way to Amazon HQ. So meh, not a big loss. Those underbelly panels would get lost sooner or later anyway.
Honestly, after Black Zarak I may be done with Titan.
That is, unless Cybertron Metroplex would be too awesome to pass.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117517)
Posted by Emerje on October 3rd, 2021 @ 9:14pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on October 3rd, 2021 @ 9:14pm CDT
Amazon says my Tigatron is arriving Tuesday, but I have my doubts since it hasn't actually shipped yet. Would be a nice surprise.
Emerje
Emerje
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117519)
Posted by sol magnus on October 3rd, 2021 @ 10:06pm CDT
My Rodimus Prime didn't have a Matrix of Leadership and I was gutted, but I didn't return him. An Ark, I;dve done the same thing you did.
Posted by sol magnus on October 3rd, 2021 @ 10:06pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:I may had a brain fart but I don't remember at all if the tower of the Ark's spaceship mode was in my box or if I ever plugged it in. One thing is sure is that after seeing a video about the upgrade kit, I was aware of that tower's existence and I went to check on my Ark. There was none and the part was nowhere to be found.
Because he's annoying to transform due to those popping underbelly panels, the overall feel was just ordinary, and I just HATE having an incomplete toy of that price, I returned the whole thing to Amazon for a full refund.
No matter if the initial deal was good, I'm not buying the Ark back.
Haslab Victory Saber X2 won't pay themselves after all.
My Rodimus Prime didn't have a Matrix of Leadership and I was gutted, but I didn't return him. An Ark, I;dve done the same thing you did.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117522)
Posted by o.supreme on October 3rd, 2021 @ 10:35pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on October 3rd, 2021 @ 10:35pm CDT
The tower on the ark isn't a separate piece. It just is packaged already folded down into the Ark.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117524)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 3rd, 2021 @ 10:58pm CDT
That was an oopsie.
Regardless, I think that was pretty random of me by buying him in the first place. Especially when I'm backing TWO Victory Sabers.
So that mean my reason for returning the Ark is a wrong one. Let's hope the return will go without any hiccups regardless. I need that 200$.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 3rd, 2021 @ 10:58pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:The tower on the ark isn't a separate piece. It just is packaged already folded down into the Ark.
That was an oopsie.
Regardless, I think that was pretty random of me by buying him in the first place. Especially when I'm backing TWO Victory Sabers.
So that mean my reason for returning the Ark is a wrong one. Let's hope the return will go without any hiccups regardless. I need that 200$.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117539)
Posted by o.supreme on October 4th, 2021 @ 9:09am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on October 4th, 2021 @ 9:09am CDT
I'm pretty sure you won't have an issue with the return. I'd agree that The Ark is probably my least favorite Titan but the ship mode is neat enough to keep it for me. I'd agree that after BZ, I'm pretty much done with Titans, unless Cybertron Metroplex really impresses me next year.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117541)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on October 4th, 2021 @ 11:08am CDT
Same for me and is the one reason I bought it, the transformation/bot mode is irrelevant to me in this instance. That said I'm glad I only paid $80 for it because it's not quite as "fixed/sturdy" as I would like and it comes loose/apart in areas sometimes. Heck maybe I was just after a model or actual vehicle type of product here. It's still cool looking though!
Posted by Till-all-R1 on October 4th, 2021 @ 11:08am CDT
o.supreme wrote:I'm pretty sure you won't have an issue with the return. I'd agree that The Ark is probably my least favorite Titan but the ship mode is neat enough to keep it for me. I'd agree that after BZ, I'm pretty much done with Titans, unless Cybertron Metroplex really impresses me next year.
Same for me and is the one reason I bought it, the transformation/bot mode is irrelevant to me in this instance. That said I'm glad I only paid $80 for it because it's not quite as "fixed/sturdy" as I would like and it comes loose/apart in areas sometimes. Heck maybe I was just after a model or actual vehicle type of product here. It's still cool looking though!
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117556)
Posted by william-james88 on October 4th, 2021 @ 6:20pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 4th, 2021 @ 6:20pm CDT
We've been told by UK fan FenneD thst Hasbro Pulse UK has wave 4 of Kingdom available for preorder. While the deluxe toys are due out soon. Tigatron will be shipping in January.
They are now up for pre-order on pulse UK
Tigatron - https://uk.hasbropulse.com/collections/ ... 5-tigatron
Shadow Panther - https://uk.hasbropulse.com/collections/ ... ow-panther
Waspinator - https://uk.hasbropulse.com/collections/ ... waspinator
They are now up for pre-order on pulse UK
Tigatron - https://uk.hasbropulse.com/collections/ ... 5-tigatron
Shadow Panther - https://uk.hasbropulse.com/collections/ ... ow-panther
Waspinator - https://uk.hasbropulse.com/collections/ ... waspinator
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117557)
Posted by Autobot_Benz on October 4th, 2021 @ 6:36pm CDT
Posted by Autobot_Benz on October 4th, 2021 @ 6:36pm CDT
Ugh January for Tigatron seriously 
. I read that on Tf Source and Dorkside. Thanks Hasbro
. I read that on Tf Source and Dorkside. Thanks Hasbro
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117559)
Posted by william-james88 on October 4th, 2021 @ 6:57pm CDT
Rhinox is beyter than Arcee for sure, there are just some really dumb design issues going on, aside from the puzzling headsculpt choices. I realy dislike his fake rhino feet in robot mode. They cause all that annoyance in transformation and they look just as goofy as if he was using the real parts.
Posted by william-james88 on October 4th, 2021 @ 6:57pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Nuclearxpotato wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:william-james88 wrote:Attempting to transform Kingdom Rhinox without the instructions is one of my dumber decisions.
Indeed. I had to cave-in and use the instructions pretty early on, despite having watched several reviews which showed the transformation. Kingdom Rhinox is perhaps the most difficult conversion to learn in the whole War for Cybertron Trilogy.
It's not Difficult in an interesting way, it's difficult in a "clearance wasn't designed". He really feels like the ER Arcee of Kingdom (which is funny because she's also in Kingdom).
What sets Rhinox apart from Arcee, though, is everything else. He's a sturdy figure, the kibble backpack is minimal, and most everything does tab together well once it's in place. Arcee is made of thin plastic, the origami is easy to understand, but doesn't fit together well because of tolerance issues, and most of the robot is literally just crammed into the car shell however you can manage. It's trash.
Rhinox is beyter than Arcee for sure, there are just some really dumb design issues going on, aside from the puzzling headsculpt choices. I realy dislike his fake rhino feet in robot mode. They cause all that annoyance in transformation and they look just as goofy as if he was using the real parts.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117560)
Posted by Mistaken_Table on October 4th, 2021 @ 7:02pm CDT
Posted by Mistaken_Table on October 4th, 2021 @ 7:02pm CDT
Don't know about the other Pulse branches, but the UK one is borderline useless. I use them to GUARANTEE getting a figure at some point eventually, but it gets cancelled as soon as an actual online retailer puts their pre-orders up.
As a laugh I've trusted them with getting me a Dracodon, which I pre-ordered at its reveal. Earliest they can get 1 to me is December. Pathetic.
As an FYI to other UK folks, IDToys has Tigatron up and Kapow has all 3. Probably still won't get Tigatron this year, but at least it'll be Jan 2022, not Jan 2023.
As a laugh I've trusted them with getting me a Dracodon, which I pre-ordered at its reveal. Earliest they can get 1 to me is December. Pathetic.
As an FYI to other UK folks, IDToys has Tigatron up and Kapow has all 3. Probably still won't get Tigatron this year, but at least it'll be Jan 2022, not Jan 2023.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117567)
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on October 4th, 2021 @ 7:24pm CDT
Pulse usually comes last in terms of preorders, but often times they'll jump the date forward. Sometimes this will result in them sending out a second run that fixes issues, but that's not common.
The extended timeframe is actually helpful because it gives me more time to decide on the figures.
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on October 4th, 2021 @ 7:24pm CDT
Mistaken_Table wrote:Don't know about the other Pulse branches, but the UK one is borderline useless. I use them to GUARANTEE getting a figure at some point eventually, but it gets cancelled as soon as an actual online retailer puts their pre-orders up.
As a laugh I've trusted them with getting me a Dracodon, which I pre-ordered at its reveal. Earliest they can get 1 to me is December. Pathetic.
Pulse usually comes last in terms of preorders, but often times they'll jump the date forward. Sometimes this will result in them sending out a second run that fixes issues, but that's not common.
The extended timeframe is actually helpful because it gives me more time to decide on the figures.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117580)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 4th, 2021 @ 7:47pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 4th, 2021 @ 7:47pm CDT
Lots to catch up on, and lots of cool stuff too!
1) Puffer and Road Ranger are still really cool, and I still love the Puffer fusion story. Love it! He and tigerhawk will be best friends.
2) Jackpot is awesome and I am glad he is happening. Another Lost Light crewmember to join the rest! and hopefully a sign that more action masters and thus more lost lighters are on the way. now I need o get the animated Jackpot at last.
3) Tigatron is really cool looking, love me a regular Bengal Tiger! And he and Shadow Panther will look great together as the mutant cat brothers.
4) Terrorsaur is the one odd ball here to me, he just doesn't look good. I am getting him for the cast, but he is definitely the weak one in the group oddly.
5) Iaconus might actually be contending with Omega as my favorite Titan. I am loving the fact that he is actually a ship that can fly around and be swished around. Couple that with the extra blast effects from Tricranius, and he is even more fun.
Anyways, have some pictures, including a War of War Titans
1) Puffer and Road Ranger are still really cool, and I still love the Puffer fusion story. Love it! He and tigerhawk will be best friends.
2) Jackpot is awesome and I am glad he is happening. Another Lost Light crewmember to join the rest! and hopefully a sign that more action masters and thus more lost lighters are on the way. now I need o get the animated Jackpot at last.
3) Tigatron is really cool looking, love me a regular Bengal Tiger! And he and Shadow Panther will look great together as the mutant cat brothers.
4) Terrorsaur is the one odd ball here to me, he just doesn't look good. I am getting him for the cast, but he is definitely the weak one in the group oddly.
5) Iaconus might actually be contending with Omega as my favorite Titan. I am loving the fact that he is actually a ship that can fly around and be swished around. Couple that with the extra blast effects from Tricranius, and he is even more fun.
Anyways, have some pictures, including a War of War Titans
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117588)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 4th, 2021 @ 7:54pm CDT
I'm considering renaming my two Siegfried and Roy.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 4th, 2021 @ 7:54pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:3) Tigatron is really cool looking, love me a regular Bengal Tiger! And he and Shadow Panther will look great together as the mutant cat brothers.
I'm considering renaming my two Siegfried and Roy.
Re: Official Images and Preorder for Kingdom Tigatron (2117591)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 4th, 2021 @ 7:56pm CDT
I need to think of an alternate name for Tigatron, funny enough I think "Tigertron" will be enough for me
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 4th, 2021 @ 7:56pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:3) Tigatron is really cool looking, love me a regular Bengal Tiger! And he and Shadow Panther will look great together as the mutant cat brothers.
I'm considering renaming my two Siegfried and Roy.
I need to think of an alternate name for Tigatron, funny enough I think "Tigertron" will be enough for me
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