New Stock Photos of 2021 Transformers Beast Wars Reissues

This is good news! The silver helmet was make or break for me. I don't want cartoon accurate colors on reissue toys. That's what Kingdom and 10th anniversary toys are for. IMO, reissues are meant to be as accurate to the original toy as possible.

I'm very happy with my 2006 anniversary releases, so I'm passing on this Primal and Megatron. If Inferno is ever re-released in this new line, that's the 1 I'll get, along with Depthcharge most likely. Otherwise the Kingdom releases are the way to go for me.

Lore Keeper wrote:This is good news! The silver helmet was make or break for me. I don't want cartoon accurate colors on reissue toys. That's what Kingdom and 10th anniversary toys are for. IMO, reissues are meant to be as accurate to the original toy as possible.

We'll only know for sure when we find him in stores

Wow, that Primal packaging really takes me back. I may get this and leave it in there just for that sake.

Just making this an easier pass for me. Will probably get Rattrap since I don't own an original one and the aftermarket price is more than I'm willing to pay.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Just making this an easier pass for me. Will probably get Rattrap since I don't own an original one and the aftermarket price is more than I'm willing to pay.

Emerje

It's a decent figure, but I do still wish it had been the Takara second-run deco with the copper head and fists. That's a deco rarity that any Rattrap fan ought to have a second chance at.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:Just making this an easier pass for me. Will probably get Rattrap since I don't own an original one and the aftermarket price is more than I'm willing to pay.

Emerje

It's a decent figure, but I do still wish it had been the Takara second-run deco with the copper head and fists. That's a deco rarity that any Rattrap fan ought to have a second chance at.

I guess the Kingdom one will fill that spot, with the reissue toy-accurate.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Terrorsaur scheduled in a later wave? If so... what mold would they use? I just learned that there are two distinct molds for the Basic Pteranodon: the original Terrorsaur, and Lazorbeak with minor differences in proportions, plus an indent for a mood sticker. Here's which mold made that figure, according to TFWiki:

Terrorsaur
Terrorsaur (original run)
Fractyl
AoE Dinobot Strafe

Lazorbeak
Terrorsaur (later EU runs)
Lazorbeak
BW Neo Hydra
Dinobots Terranotron/Swoop

More than likely the original Terrorsaur mold, but... Why make a variant mold at all?!

I was trying to find an image of all the original Terrorsaur variants together, akin to the Dinobot and Cybershark molds. But it doesn't look like anyone has bothered to make one [online]?

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:Just making this an easier pass for me. Will probably get Rattrap since I don't own an original one and the aftermarket price is more than I'm willing to pay.

Emerje

It's a decent figure, but I do still wish it had been the Takara second-run deco with the copper head and fists. That's a deco rarity that any Rattrap fan ought to have a second chance at.

I guess the Kingdom one will fill that spot, with the reissue toy-accurate.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Terrorsaur scheduled in a later wave? If so... what mold would they use? I just learned that there are two distinct molds for the Basic Pteranodon: the original Terrorsaur, and Lazorbeak with minor differences in proportions, plus an indent for a mood sticker. Here's which mold made that figure, according to TFWiki:

Terrorsaur
Terrorsaur (original run)
Fractyl
AoE Dinobot Strafe

Lazorbeak
Terrorsaur (later EU runs)
Lazorbeak
BW Neo Hydra
Dinobots Terranotron/Swoop

More than likely the original Terrorsaur mold, but... Why make a variant mold at all?!

We only know of this first wave for the Beast Wars reissues. We know they have the original run mold close at hand so I'd guess they would use that one.

Putting more thought into that Optimus, the mutant mask looks really sharp

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Putting more thought into that Optimus, the mutant mask looks really sharp

I personally love the Mutant masks, on my original bw Megs, I used to cover one side of it (the only part of the mask remaining) and pretend he had a phantom of the opera vibe going on

ZeroWolf wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Putting more thought into that Optimus, the mutant mask looks really sharp

I personally love the Mutant masks, on my original bw Megs, I used to cover one side of it (the only part of the mask remaining) and pretend he had a phantom of the opera vibe going on

Yeah, I was always very partial to the Megatron mask. It has always reminded me of some of the various versions of the Final Fantasy Dark Knight helmets.





Emerje

Greetings Seibertronians! Ever since the vintage Beast Wars reissues were revealed, fans have wondered what the finalized deco for Megatron will be, since it has previously varied between different official images. Well, we don't need to wonder any more. YouTube reviewer PrimeVsPrime has released a video review for the upcoming Megatron reissue, and it comes with a few differences from the original figure. Most notably, it uses a slightly darker shade of purple and omits the silver paint from the robot mode helmet. While these changes mean this is not a 100% faithful reissue, they also give this release a slightly more show-accurate deco.

PrimeVsPrime's review is embedded below, as well as an image of the original Beast Wars Megatron from Seibertron's own galleries so you can compare the two releases for yourself. For Megatron's full gallery, just click on the image below.





What do you think? Are these changes a deal breaker, or do these differences make this release worth buying? Let us know in the Energon Pub forums!

That is disappointing. I had really hoped they kept them faithful to the original. Guess it's time to start canceling preorders.

I remember how badly I wanted to own the old BW toys as a kid, now I can live without just fine. I mean sheesh they couldn't bother painting his chest this time.

Hmm. I already have the originals for all four of these re-releases, so this was going to be a skip from me either way. But I'm genuinely confused about who these are intended for. They made changes to the coloring and paint, so its not really for people who collect the original line. They didn't use the updated mold, and the paint changes still don't match the show, so its not for people who value show accuracy. So who are they expecting to pick this up?

Well to be fair, ever since reissues of the original Transformers toys started coming out (I think of the Commemorative Series starting back in 2002 and on), they haven't been 100% the same as the originals either.

It's likely for adults now, who grew up with BW, but haven't seen the toys in many years, same idea with most "G1" re-releases. Most hardcore fans can tell the differences, but many casual "fans-when-they-were-kids" wont really know the difference.

Heck, it's even been asserted at times, that modern-figures in retro packaging (ex. The Headmasters at Walmart) -some casual "fan-when-they-were-a-kid" might even think they ARE reproductions of the original toys .

could be for all those that paid the price tag on half an optimus prime toy compared to the price of the full reissue some years back

Looks like Megatron has the piece missing form it that the toysrus show version had removed too but cant be sure.

blackeyedprime wrote:Looks like Megatron has the piece missing form it that the toysrus show version had removed too but cant be sure.

What piece?

Spider5800 wrote:Hmm. I already have the originals for all four of these re-releases, so this was going to be a skip from me either way. But I'm genuinely confused about who these are intended for. They made changes to the coloring and paint, so its not really for people who collect the original line. They didn't use the updated mold, and the paint changes still don't match the show, so its not for people who value show accuracy. So who are they expecting to pick this up?

People like me who didn't have any of the originals. Toy or cartoon accuracy also isn't a huge stickler for me, these are close enough.

It seems the US will be first to get the Beast Wars reissues in hand. Right now, both Cheetor and Rattrap are in-stock on Walmart's site. Below are the links to buy these two toys, both priced just shy of $23 USD.

Transformers Toys Vintage Beast Wars Rattrap Collectible Action Figure
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /200598161?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff

Transformers Toys Vintage Beast Wars Cheetor Collectible Action Figure
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers ... /662391149?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff

Let us know if your order works out, you never know with Walmart.

I ordered both. I never had a Rattrap and I'm curious to compare Cheetor to the Sonokong version from the early 2000s. Man, haven't thought of that company in a while.

I ordered both as well because walmart store toy aisles are a waste of time

They were supposed to be delivered today but Walmart sent an email early this morning saying both figures were delayed. My gut tells me they're going to cancel since the rest of the figures weren't up.

Has anyone had theirs ship yet? Mine are still delayed while the listings are currently listed as in stock and available for next day delivery. I'm debating whether to try placing a second order to see what happens.

Lore Keeper wrote:Has anyone had theirs ship yet? Mine are still delayed while the listings are currently listed as in stock and available for next day delivery. I'm debating whether to try placing a second order to see what happens.

The hold on the order has been released and I have the money back in my Paypal account. Don't know what to do.

Made a second-order that was just delayed today. Now it'll be a few days and the hold will probably be released. Don't know how they're getting reviews of them but the figures aren't being shipped out.

Let's face it, the only news of interest for these reissues is "where/when can I get it" and "how does it compare to the original release". Well now, I can at least answer that second part for everyone. My original Transformers Beast Wars Cheetor has been well played with so the spots are fading away and I no longer have his tail gun. But there's still enough of him to see how this reissue differs.

Firstly, unlike what some naysayers can say, this reissue's plastic quality is as good as the original 1996 toy. My OG Cheetor's joints have gotten really loose over time so it's nice to have a Cheetor with nice tight joints (but not too tight). This is a quality reissue, nothing feels cheap.

Mold wise, this is not the same mold used for the original Cheetor. It becomes more obvious when looking at the fur and the gut gun. The details are not the same with the fur curling in a different direction and the gut gun's innards pattern looks more organic and misshapen around the edges in the original, while more even on the reissue.

In terms of deco, I am impressed at how they used a yellow plastic that is very close to the original. I thought my OG Cheetor had faded since he wasn't bright yellow but as it turns out, that is indeed his original colour.

The blue paint on the reissue is of a brighter blue, similar to the MP and the Netflix toy, while the original looks more navy (well that's what it looks like now). Also, and this could simply be due to the passage of time, the bronze parts are much nicer on the reissue while mine look more brownish.

But these are all just slight differences, and could be due to age. The main difference is in the three sets of eyes, the beast eyes, robot eyes and mutant eyes. On my OG toy, they are all the same 90s rad fluo green. It gives it a nice uniformity from one mode to the next. In the reissue, all three sets have a different deco. The eyes on the beast mode are a darker forest green, the eyes for the robot mode are bright salmon and the eyes for the mutant head are bronze.

Overall, the quality is as good as you could hope on this reissue and I am glad to have a fresh new "OG" Cheetor in my collection.

Not sure if it's just my monitor, but is that the "newer" green eyed variant of the Original Cheetor, Compared to the 'first edition' blue eyed one? Has anyone ever done a comparison between the the various Cheetor runs? (I'd just always assumed it was *just* eye color).

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Not sure if it's just my monitor, but is that the "newer" green eyed variant of the Original Cheetor, Compared to the 'first edition' blue eyed one? Has anyone ever done a comparison between the the various Cheetor runs? (I'd just always assumed it was *just* eye color).

Yeah, just eye colour, but of the Cheetah and robot mode. Cheetah eyes went from blue, to red to green and robot mode eyes went from gold to green. Not sure where this reissue's red eyes come from.

william-james88 wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Not sure if it's just my monitor, but is that the "newer" green eyed variant of the Original Cheetor, Compared to the 'first edition' blue eyed one? Has anyone ever done a comparison between the the various Cheetor runs? (I'd just always assumed it was *just* eye color).

Yeah, just eye colour, but of the Cheetah and robot mode. Cheetah eyes went from blue, to red to green and robot mode eyes went from gold to green. Not sure where this reissue's red eyes come from.

One of Takara's variants of Cheetus: Cheetus on TFU.info

Still waiting for Walmart.com to just ship mine.

While the cheetor figure us of great quality the Rattrap feels cheaper than I remember. It has that lighter plastic feel, similar to T30 Rattrap. The price being charged for Rattrap is ridiculous.

have these been found in the US yet or not?

william-james88 wrote:have these been found in the US yet or not?

Not yet, but at least my local Walmarts are resetting the toy sections, that's when new assortments are usually introduced. Shouldn't be too long.

My order is still pending from the Walmart website, even though it was supposed to be delivered in two days. That was like two months ago. I've given up all hope.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:have these been found in the US yet or not?

Not yet, but at least my local Walmarts are resetting the toy sections, that's when new assortments are usually introduced. Shouldn't be too long.

One of my local Walmarts just reset and didn't have space set aside fore these.

Emerje

Did we know that Japan would be getting these too? As exclusives to TakaraTomy Mall and the Cybertron Satellite?

https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/c/cTFbwv/

They've also slightly renamed the line as "Transformers: Beast Wars Vintage".

Well, I got them. Both orders acctually. Not sure if the Cheetor I had all these years is a Takara reissue or a Sonokong release.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got them. Both orders acctually. Not sure if the Cheetor I had all these years is a Takara reissue or a Sonokong release.

So both shipped from Walmart?

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got them. Both orders acctually. Not sure if the Cheetor I had all these years is a Takara reissue or a Sonokong release.

So both shipped from Walmart?

Yes, both. Two orders actually as I thought the first one was canceled.

Did any of you opt for the Walmart preorders for the retro Beast Wars figures? I know that preorders at big box stores have been hit or miss but it seems to be a hit here this time. Fellow Seibertronian chuckdawg1999 got his orders the other day and had the time to do a quick review of Cheetor and Rattrap if anyone wanted to see a video review of these. They have yet to appear in store, but should be doing so soon.

Galvatron002 wrote:I found the reissues of Cheetor and Megatron at Walmart in Halifax, NS last week.

They've been found in Canada for months now, as well as other parts of the world. It's in the US that they are still MIA and that happens a lot with these retro releases.

The UK of all places has had these for a while now, though the on-site reviews are bad. Optimus Primal in particular is apparently light, brittle and any paintwork comes off like condensation from a window.

ID Toys has already reduced them, so I'm getting him anyway.

Mistaken_Table wrote:Optimus Primal in particular is apparently light, brittle and any paintwork comes off like condensation from a window.

The original one had the same problem with paint apps, particularly on the beast mode chest. Can you elaborate more about the flaws that people are experiencing with the reissue? I'm curious if it's just people not being familiar with the original toy.

Mistaken_Table wrote:
Optimus Primal in particular is apparently light, brittle and any paintwork comes off like condensation from a window.


The original one had the same problem with paint apps, particularly on the beast mode chest. Can you elaborate more about the flaws that people are experiencing with the reissue? I'm curious if it's just people not being familiar with the original toy.

Tried to check Smyth's reviews again. They've all been removed apart from a single 5-star review! From what I remember it was the red on the knees and upper arms. The cannon/buttcheek flaps snapped after a few swings and the back of the shoulder pads didn't have the flex to get over the tabs.

Yeah, the toy had its flaws, and even my childhood one has lost the cannon flaps, but the paint and plastic is still stellar. Even the arm flapping/rotating gimmick is still going strong after 25 years!

Granted it may have been a few QC hiccups with the 1st production of the re-issues, but to be broken that quickly by adult collectors?

Of course, I'm getting one (I collect Optimus Primals) and I can do my own comparisons.

Mistaken_Table wrote:From what I remember it was the red on the knees and upper arms.

I'm fairly certain that's a problem with the original as well. I've got about a dozen in my store in varying degrees of condition and can post pics of what a larger sample size of the original toy looks like in used condition.

Mistaken_Table wrote:The cannon/buttcheek flaps snapped after a few swings

Those pop off easily, if I recall correctly (and is one of the pieces often missing from loose samples in collections I purchase), and the gorilla head pops off easily on the original. If this is from reviews on a website, regular consumer comments might say "snapped off" but really means "popped off" and possibly doesn't realize that the piece can be popped back in.

Mistaken_Table wrote:and the back of the shoulder pads didn't have the flex to get over the tabs.

This could be something as simple as extra plastic on the pegs that just needs to be cleaned up a little or something simple like that.

Mistaken_Table wrote:Yeah, the toy had its flaws, and even my childhood one has lost the cannon flaps, but the paint and plastic is still stellar. Even the arm flapping/rotating gimmick is still going strong after 25 years!

Sounds like you took good enough care of yours to keep the paint in good condition. Even mine has paint scrapes on the beast mode chest which I've oddly never bothered to replace for some reason or another (or I upgraded it to one with less marks on it maybe).

Granted it may have been a few QC hiccups with the 1st production of the re-issues, but to be broken that quickly by adult collectors?

Of course, I'm getting one (I collect Optimus Primals) and I can do my own comparisons.[/quote]

I've got the reissues (all of the reissues) and the originals. This is making me really want to do some quick galleries for comparisons.

I'm loving the reissues, got all from this line so far. I actually did a video opening the Primal and Megatron
https://youtu.be/XSh9Vvg668E