New Magazine Images of Takara Masterpiece MP 28 Hot Rodimus (Hot Rod) Undercarriage Shot

Not a clean looking undercarriage?

padfoo wrote:Not a clean looking undercarriage?

Very different to previous releases (for obvious reasons that half his body doesnt have alt mode integration.


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Definitely a different looking undercarriage for sure

Eh, doesn't bother me so much. Given that it's an alt-mode that doesn't exactly have a real-world parallel, the '-in Disguise' part of the undercarriage doesn't seem so important on principle.

Wow, this is Gobot worthy. Yep, 1983 Gobot worthy.

the bitching has already began

Rick wrote:Wow, this is Gobot worthy. Yep, 1983 Gobot worthy.

I get you can design a better one?

Doubledealer93 wrote:the bitching has already began

The Takara apologizing and excuse making has already begun.

These pictures settle it, this figure is a definite pass. It's not the worst figure I've ever seen, but certainly not worth the MP price tag it comes with.

With an undercarriage like that he's a total pass for me. A good look undercarriage is what makes or breaks a figure for me.
/sarcasm

Well, like most other Masterpiece collectors I display my transformers facing the wall in bot mode and alt mode figures with their wheels in the air so this would ruin my display....I don't know what else to do but not buy it.

I guess I sboukdnt say it's a total pass. When the KOs sbow up.on eBay, I'll probally pick up one of those.

Ravage XK wrote:Well, like most other Masterpiece collectors I display my transformers facing the wall in bot mode and alt mode figures with their wheels in the air so this would ruin my display....I don't know what else to do but not buy it.

pffffft. What sort of fan are you? Facing the wall? Strange internet person ... some should lay face down!

That kind of thing doesn't bother me, so this has still got my interest. Actually on reflection it looks like his G1 toy undercarriage! So if anything that's a plus, right?

Now bring on the springer and arcee masterpieces.

People who post screenshots of the photos they take (as opposed to the actual photos) should be removed from the gene pool.

While I did post that shot that compares other undercarriage, I totally get why this is a different case (and wrote so above). I have no problem with how this part looks, it makes perfect sense (I also dont care about how the RID figures look like under). And I am super surprised that this is what people might get bugged about when there is much worse.

Take a look at this and tell me if you see what I see:



These pics portray a really small waist which makes the robot look really weird when posed. And that I find is the biggest detractment of an MP figure. These figures are made to recreate the G1 show/movie look as close as possible so these are the figures that we'd use to recreate classic scenes and poses. And that huge upper body atop that tiny waist just doesnt work when posing him in any way aside from standing straight. No pose using the waist swivel seems to work so far. It looks bad, really really bad . I will be waiting for reviews and Seibertron's gallery to see if this can be salvaged.

Also, what is up with the orange flap and the red chest here, are they telling us that they are 2 different pieces, I dont get it.

yes, I noticed that as well. Just one of the many, many flaws this figure seems to have. Every single photo I see of it, just screams lazy to me. Is it the worst figure ever made? No, of course not. For $80, however, I expect a whole hell of a lot more out of my money

Ravage XK wrote:Well, like most other Masterpiece collectors I display my transformers facing the wall in bot mode and alt mode figures with their wheels in the air so this would ruin my display....I don't know what else to do but not buy it.

Ironhidensh wrote:yes, I noticed that as well. Just one of the many, many flaws this figure seems to have. Every single photo I see of it, just screams lazy to me. Is it the worst figure ever made? No, of course not. For $80, however, I expect a whole hell of a lot more out of my money

kind of my thoughts too. It doesn't scream masterpiece to me, which is disappointing. Same sort of thing with Tracks: for a masterpiece, you could expect a bit more

I agree with those thoughts as well. My knee jerk response when looking at these new pictures was, where is his waist? I don't care for the thin joint these pictures make the figure appear to have. Hopefully it won't be a QC problem as well. The undercarriage thing doesn't bother me in the slightest but the waist definitely does.

Well... undercarriage is an disappointment... but it's ment to be shown in the front though XD most likely everyone will display it facing forward or in alt mode so no big deal

william-james88 wrote:Also, what is up with the orange flap and the red chest here, are they telling us that they are 2 different pieces, I dont get it.

That's his collar. It is a separate piece from the car hood chest. Higher quality images of the figure show there to be a seam that separates the collar from the rest of the hood, as the collar (and head) is replaced by the car's exposed engine in vehicle mode.

Ever since they started doing the cars the MP line has been less bang for buck. Sure the figures are great, but for me I just haven't gotten that WOW factor that MP1, or 10 had as often.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ever since they started doing the cars the MP line has been less bang for buck. Sure the figures are great, but for me I just haven't gotten that WOW factor that MP1, or 10 had as often.

Oh yeah, definitely. I think it may have been there on the first release, but continuous re-use has given everyone mold-fatigue. I know I didn't go 'whoa' until shockwave was revealed.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ever since they started doing the cars the MP line has been less bang for buck. Sure the figures are great, but for me I just haven't gotten that WOW factor that MP1, or 10 had as often.

Oh yeah, definitely. I think it may have been there on the first release, but continuous re-use has given everyone mold-fatigue. I know I didn't go 'whoa' until shockwave was revealed.

Believe it or not Bumblebee gave me a Whoa as did Starsaber. Starsaber was a big whoa.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ever since they started doing the cars the MP line has been less bang for buck. Sure the figures are great, but for me I just haven't gotten that WOW factor that MP1, or 10 had as often.

I personally feel I got a lot more toy out of the 40-60$ spent on an MP car rather than the 190$ spent on MP 10.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ever since they started doing the cars the MP line has been less bang for buck. Sure the figures are great, but for me I just haven't gotten that WOW factor that MP1, or 10 had as often.

Oh yeah, definitely. I think it may have been there on the first release, but continuous re-use has given everyone mold-fatigue. I know I didn't go 'whoa' until shockwave was revealed.

Believe it or not Bumblebee gave me a Whoa as did Starsaber. Starsaber was a big whoa.

While the figure itself didn't do it for me - due to his not looking like a transformer - but the mechanisms and storage certainly made mny jaw drop .

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ever since they started doing the cars the MP line has been less bang for buck. Sure the figures are great, but for me I just haven't gotten that WOW factor that MP1, or 10 had as often.

I personally feel I got a lot more toy out of the 40-60$ spent on an MP car rather than the 190$ spent on MP 10.

I love MP-10, but that's how I feel about MP-1.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ever since they started doing the cars the MP line has been less bang for buck. Sure the figures are great, but for me I just haven't gotten that WOW factor that MP1, or 10 had as often.

Oh yeah, definitely. I think it may have been there on the first release, but continuous re-use has given everyone mold-fatigue. I know I didn't go 'whoa' until shockwave was revealed.

Believe it or not Bumblebee gave me a Whoa as did Starsaber. Starsaber was a big whoa.

Bee and Saber were pretty different. I love watching reviews of the guys because there was so much going on on either a very big or very small frame, and it was unlike anything seen before.

that reminds me of how the original toy is

look familiar?

Ultra Markus wrote:

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look familiar?

Yes.

I can only assume they turn off their pain receptors when they transform. Could you imagine staying in that alt mode for a day? By the time you transform your shoulders would be killing you.

Masterpiece Hotrod is awesome until proven otherwise. Only a Video Review will prove or disprove the Awesomeness.

Burn wrote:I can only assume they turn off their pain receptors when they transform. Could you imagine staying in that alt mode for a day? By the time you transform your shoulders would be killing you.

Imagine being DotM Roadbuster. he would have some serious problems there with his head and chest being a hole car length apart...

Ultra Markus wrote:that reminds me of how the original toy is

And yet that one didnt end up with an insane backpack when it transformed.

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:that reminds me of how the original toy is

And yet that one didnt end up with an insane backpack when it transformed.

i know right! too bad they couldn't make the design like the toy(partly there) but make it more like
masterpiece quality

Ultra Markus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:that reminds me of how the original toy is

And yet that one didnt end up with an insane backpack when it transformed.

i know right! too bad they couldn't make the design like the toy(partly there) but make it more like
masterpiece quality

And here I thought that was the whole idea. Shows ya what I know.

Cobotron wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:that reminds me of how the original toy is

And yet that one didnt end up with an insane backpack when it transformed.

i know right! too bad they couldn't make the design like the toy(partly there) but make it more like
masterpiece quality

And here I thought that was the whole idea. Shows ya what I know.

Na I feel the idea behind Masterpiece starting at MP10 is starting at the cartoon model and ignoring the toy completely while salvaging the engineering developed in the previous incarnation of the line.

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:that reminds me of how the original toy is

And yet that one didnt end up with an insane backpack when it transformed.

i know right! too bad they couldn't make the design like the toy(partly there) but make it more like
masterpiece quality

And here I thought that was the whole idea. Shows ya what I know.

Na I feel the idea behind Masterpiece starting at MP10 is staring at the cartoon model and ignoring the toy completely while salvaging the engineering developed in the previous incarnation of the line.

Staring at pictures for long periods of time is not good for your health. may lead to double/impaired/poor vision and as a result poor attempts at performing even basic tasks as long as symptoms last

I think he looks great and maybe I'm easily pleased. Would I like to pay less? Sure but that's true about everything else I consume. I had gone off the mp line right around rodimus was released and then when they switched scale and released mp10 it felt redundant. Then they started releasing the cars in the new scale and with each release my woahs got louder. Wheeljack made me cave and start collecting again. Ultra Magnus was a super woah.

Ideally hot rod will let us swivel his head the other way. Until it's out in the wild, don't think it's fair to judge it so harshly based on assumptions...

frogbat wrote:Ideally hot rod will let us swivel his head the other way. Until it's out in the wild, don't think it's fair to judge it so harshly based on assumptions...

Whoa there, hang on. That's what the interweb is all about. If you cut that out all you are left with is shopping and boobies.

Ravage XK wrote:
Whoa there, hang on. That's what the interweb is all about. If you cut that out all you are left with is shopping and boobies.

haha well put

MP-01 was the OG whoa, without it there would be no others. Hell, the Alternators would've even failed without it. MP-02 rode on that whoa because you knew the whoa you were getting times Dreamwave Ultra Magnus cover whoa. Basic math.

The next real whoa wasn't until MP-08. Grimlock was a big damn whoa. The only complaint I have ever heard about it is the height which since they decreased the scale of the line isn't really a factor for most anymore.

MP-09's whoa started out high but decreased sharply with a whole host of issues. Still, much whoa at the Zod household for any Rodimus. I admit to bias.

MP-10 had the biggest whoa since MP-01. Straight up rewhoaing over a beautiful figure. MP-11 tried to ride the rewhoaing but, while impressive in its own right, not much whoa in something we've seen a bunch and knew we'd be seeing a lot more of. Starscream by nature has negative whoa. Which sucks because I like him. MP-10B had a harder fight but more than made its own whoa. I actually like the mold better in black because of it.

MP-13 and crew may have the highest combined whoa of the line. Getting them all together is like kaioken times 20 whoa. About as close as possible to a perfect whoa.

Had to wait a bit for more whoa but we got it back to back in MP-21 & 22. Bumblebee is more whoa than Soundwave on his own and is just carved out of solid whoa, blessed by pure whoa, and smiled upon by the gods of whoa. He'd be a perfect whoa if Soundwave and the cassettes hadn't raised the whoa limit. Ultra Magnus is a different kind of whoa. He's a whoa of mass and engineering. A huge technical whoa is still a whoa.

Hot Rod, Shockwave, Ironhide, even Optimus Primal all still have their whoa level pending until release and review. Shockwave is expected to keep his high whoa while speculation is that Optimus Primal may have the highest whoa levels ever recorded.

End result is that Hot Rod is still positive net whoa until proper testing is completed.

Note: All G2 versions have additional whoa added to the original. Hence G2 Sideswipe has whoa like crazy over Sideswipe. Obviously the same is true for Bumblebee. Thus they were not included in the ranking due to skewing the curve and unfairly decreasing whoa across the board. G2 Bumblebee is perfect whoa.

I move that "rewhoaing" be added to the dictionary.

Ravage XK wrote:I move that "rewhoaing" be added to the dictionary.

Seconded

zodconvoy wrote:Had to wait a bit for more whoa but we got it back to back in MP-21 & 22. Bumblebee is more whoa than Soundwave on his own and is just carved out of solid whoa, blessed by pure whoa, and smiled upon by the gods of whoa. He'd be a perfect whoa if Soundwave and the cassettes hadn't raised the whoa limit. Ultra Magnus is a different kind of whoa. He's a whoa of mass and engineering. A huge technical whoa is still a whoa.

Hot Rod, Shockwave, Ironhide, even Optimus Primal all still have their whoa level pending until release and review. Shockwave is expected to keep his high whoa while speculation is that Optimus Primal may have the highest whoa levels ever recorded.

What about Star Saber or Exhaust (post-Ultra Magnus, pre-Tracks/Ironhide)?

I'll give Exhaust a big WHOA! Especially the circumstances of his acquisition for me. Found in the wild.
I whoaed all over Wheeljack, but there is something extra special about Exhaust. Could just be the taboo nature of his existence, and that blue translucent plastic, and head sculpt whoa me right in the whoa zone.

Also, all these "whoas" and not one post of this?

Sabrblade wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:Had to wait a bit for more whoa but we got it back to back in MP-21 & 22. Bumblebee is more whoa than Soundwave on his own and is just carved out of solid whoa, blessed by pure whoa, and smiled upon by the gods of whoa. He'd be a perfect whoa if Soundwave and the cassettes hadn't raised the whoa limit. Ultra Magnus is a different kind of whoa. He's a whoa of mass and engineering. A huge technical whoa is still a whoa.

Hot Rod, Shockwave, Ironhide, even Optimus Primal all still have their whoa level pending until release and review. Shockwave is expected to keep his high whoa while speculation is that Optimus Primal may have the highest whoa levels ever recorded.

What about Star Saber or Exhaust (post-Ultra Magnus, pre-Tracks/Ironhide)?

Personally, Star Saber has no whoa and it just looks like a Gundam model to me. Rather than judge it harshly, I opted not to at all. Between the loss of whoa due to not TF but rather Diaclone and the Marlboro issues and the positive post release whoa of scarcity of originals but overabundance of KOs, I find that Exhaust balances back to about Wheeljack's level of whoa, ie pretty good for the Autobot cars but still in the lull between Soundwave and Bumblebee. A worthy effort for a repaint.

zodconvoy wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:Had to wait a bit for more whoa but we got it back to back in MP-21 & 22. Bumblebee is more whoa than Soundwave on his own and is just carved out of solid whoa, blessed by pure whoa, and smiled upon by the gods of whoa. He'd be a perfect whoa if Soundwave and the cassettes hadn't raised the whoa limit. Ultra Magnus is a different kind of whoa. He's a whoa of mass and engineering. A huge technical whoa is still a whoa.

Hot Rod, Shockwave, Ironhide, even Optimus Primal all still have their whoa level pending until release and review. Shockwave is expected to keep his high whoa while speculation is that Optimus Primal may have the highest whoa levels ever recorded.

What about Star Saber or Exhaust (post-Ultra Magnus, pre-Tracks/Ironhide)?

Personally, Star Saber has no whoa and it just looks like a Gundam model to me. Rather than judge it harshly, I opted not to at all. Between the loss of whoa due to not TF but rather Diaclone and the Marlboro issues and the positive post release whoa of scarcity of originals but overabundance of KOs, I find that Exhaust balances back to about Wheeljack's level of whoa, ie pretty good for the Autobot cars but still in the lull between Soundwave and Bumblebee. A worthy effort for a repaint.

I felt the same way about star saber, didn't really feel like a tf, but a victory leo mp combiner would do it. The whoa for me with him was the brainmaster - or whatever - mechanics, seeing them all work in the reviews was awesome.