New Info Says Core Class 86 Rumble will be Blue and Voyager Metalhawk is Coming

FYI, it's well known that the issue with Ratchet's shoulders is that they have the logo for the Red Cross which would mean Hasbro would have to get an extra license. Not only is that extra money but the Red Cross does not give it's license out to war toys.

Wow a 3.5" Rumble!! Guessing he will not be able to transform down enough to pack him inside Netflix Soundwave, bummer. At least he comes with pile drivers and weapons

Rumble I find to be very interesting. given his size, it definitely raises questions about a future soundwave release.

Rumble sounds interesting, I don't own any core bots aside from Spike so I'm not familiar with size/scale in relations to DLX bots, but wouldn't they actually be too large? If Rumble is indeed the same size as Spike?

So I should stop looking for a good price on the Spy Patrol set with Frenzy and Wingthing (and Doubledealer's pals)?

So far I only have Netflix Soundwave, but really want more minions. Don't really care if the cassettes are a bit bigger...I even toyed with the idea of using KO MP Cassettes...

Amazon just pushed up the delivery of SS-86 Sludge to next week from some time in August.

Immortal Starscream wrote:Rumble I find to be very interesting. given his size, it definitely raises questions about a future soundwave release.

Same thing I was thinking.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Immortal Starscream wrote:Rumble I find to be very interesting. given his size, it definitely raises questions about a future soundwave release.

Same thing I was thinking.

Wave 2 of Legacy has a soundwave rerelease, so it coincides well with having this care class bot available on shelves at the same time

Also, 3.5 is in all descriptions for the size class, not indicative of how big this specific toy will be.

For a screen accurate line, the WFC micromaster/minicon scale is too small for Rumble and Frenzy - it's just not possible to make them screen accurate next to a Soundwave that they can also fit inside. I use the old Masterpiece figures next to my Generatioms figures, but will be interested in what's coming.

Edit: Dang, I'd forgotten how inconsistently sized Rumble and Frenzy are.

BLIX007 wrote:Wow a 3.5" Rumble!! Guessing he will not be able to transform down enough to pack him inside Netflix Soundwave, bummer. At least he comes with pile drivers and weapons

Why not? Eject has more articulation then the siege cassettes while also being compatible. 3.5 is the class scale not the size of the figure. Buzzworhty Bumblebee with spike is also labeled for n his detail at 3.5 and he’s smaller then that. What’s the point of releasing a cassette if they’re not compatible with with a character who can fit them that will be on the shelf at the same time. Siege soundwave.

william-james88 wrote:FYI, it's well known that the issue with Ratchet's shoulders is that they have the logo for the Red Cross which would mean Hasbro would have to get an extra license. Not only is that extra money but the Red Cross does not give it's license out to war toys.

I thought about that, but the problem I have with that reasoning is that his arms don't have the logo for the Red Cross- they simply have red crosses.

You can't copyright the shape of a cross, which is just two perpendicular lines, and you can't copyright the color red.

Hasbro can simply say that they're only red crosses, not the logo for the Red Cross, which is completely truthful.

I’m guessing this new Rumble will actually be smaller than most would think.
If not with the height, then the overall “bulk”, or in this case, being a bit on the trim side so that his proportions aren’t stubby like the Siege cassettes.
Not to mention, packed with 2 guns & pile drivers (& especially assuming they have basic articulation)—
to keep that all at the $11.99 price point, I think he’s going to be on the small side of the Core class.
Which is fine with me… Hastak has done enough right in the last few years that I’m thinking this will be a good, fun little figure.

In theory shouldn't Rumble basically be the same size as Kingdom Eject? Honestly that's what I'm expecting it to be I'm just hyped for the piledrivers and blasters because my current "Legends" version doesn't have them!

What's funny is that I haven't even gotten around to opening my Rumble Wingthing set, so I guess I should have just waited. lol

Sowndwave76 wrote:I’m guessing this new Rumble will actually be smaller than most would think.
If not with the height, then the overall “bulk”, or in this case, being a bit on the trim side so that his proportions aren’t stubby like the Siege cassettes.
Not to mention, packed with 2 guns & pile drivers (& especially assuming they have basic articulation)—
to keep that all at the $11.99 price point, I think he’s going to be on the small side of the Core class.
Which is fine with me… Hastak has done enough right in the last few years that I’m thinking this will be a good, fun little figure.

He will be the same size as Eject but with more accessories.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I just got a notice from Amazon that Sludge will be shipping tomorrow. A month early.

Mine is getting ready to ship too, got him last night, he should be here next week!

RiddlerJ wrote:I thought SS figures were supposed to be the proper scale with each other.

Well in the movie, when Laserbeak is in this form, he's the size of a child... so makes sense really.

Why do they keep doing Metalhawk? There are other Pretenders.

RiddlerJ wrote:Why do they keep doing Metalhawk? There are other Pretenders.

Same reason they keep doing Bludgeon. They're the favorites.

Sabrblade wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Why do they keep doing Metalhawk? There are other Pretenders.

Same reason they keep doing Bludgeon. They're the favorites.

Not to be that guy, but that's a Legacy figure. LOL

sol magnus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Why do they keep doing Metalhawk? There are other Pretenders.

Same reason they keep doing Bludgeon. They're the favorites.

Not to be that guy, but that's a Legacy figure. LOL

Blame Will for putting the news in this thread.

Sabrblade wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Why do they keep doing Metalhawk? There are other Pretenders.

Same reason they keep doing Bludgeon. They're the favorites.

Not to be that guy, but that's a Legacy figure. LOL

Blame Will for putting the news in this thread.

To further derail, did anybody else see the Darkmount listing?

RE: Darkmount

TFW2005 wrote:It’s time for yet another Transformers leak, this time from a different source – Amazon has supplied us with with a new Legacy Leader listing for Darkmount, AKA Straxus.

Interestingly the listing notes that he will be released on October 1, 2022 rather than 2023 like the other recent leaks. Whether this is true or some sort of error/placeholder remains to be seen. Other than that, we have no further details at the moment.

Take this as a rumor for now, but you can check it out and share your thoughts on the boards.

Update: TFW has been made aware that this may in fact be a mislabelled store listing for the upcoming Legacy Leader Dragon Megatron figure. We advise taking it with a grain of salt for now until further clarification is received.

Personally, I'd be 100% in favour of a new Straxus over TM2 Megatron. What would be involved to upscale him into Leader Class though

sol magnus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Why do they keep doing Metalhawk? There are other Pretenders.

Same reason they keep doing Bludgeon. They're the favorites.

Not to be that guy, but that's a Legacy figure. LOL

Blame Will for putting the news in this thread.

To further derail, did anybody else see the Darkmount listing?

Yes, and purposefully chose to ignore it since it is misinformation.

I'd really like to see them do proper pretenders, but I would thing they would end up at the leader class point if they did.

Rodimus Knight wrote:I'd really like to see them do proper pretenders, but I would thing they would end up at the leader class point if they did.

You wouldn't get pretenders in this particular line

But would you find the Allicons/Bailiffs? Already having been a part of Earthrise, I would assume the mould will migrate to this line? Since technically they appeared before the Sharkticons and Quintessons did.

Sludge showed up, & he is even better in-hand than I expected…
Yeah, my copy needs that knee ratchet fix… But I’m not worried about that.
I’ll be saying this for both of the last two, but man, now I can’t wait to have Snarl!!!

I recently got the original G1 Wreck Gar toy. So, time for some comparisons and silly antics!

I'm glad the SS86 is a voyager because it's a take back to the original's size.



Transforming both into bike mode is trickier than it appear at first glance. For the G1, there's a hidden double hinge joint inside the engine block. You must push it "up" for the bot mode, and "down" for the bike mode. As for the SS86, I forgot to use the hinge joint of the gaz tank for bike mode. This simple missed step made the whole transformation seems impossible.

Still, both bikes looks bad-ass and silly at the same time.



Speaking of silliness, can SS86 WG ride G1 WG?

Not perfect, but yes!



How about the opposite?

Well, surprisingly yes! The G1 bot can even hold onto the SS86's bike handles!

My Sludge finally shipped and should arrive this weekend.

I also got my hands on Junkyard. First experience with the mold. He is pretty dang neat. i appreciate how chunky he is, and I love the tooling they did for the mold. He is a lot of fun. The headsculpt is also really good

This new blurry image has been making the rounds online today. It is our first look at Studio Series 86 core class Wheelie. It is unsure at this point if this is a wave 3 or 4. No look at the alt mode so far but one can assume it will be just as movie accurate as the robot mode. And it comes with the slingshot too.

Looks quote charming (at the price point)

YESSS FINALLYYYY

This Wheelie I'll have to get.

I wonder if it will be compatible with SS86 Grimlock with the same peg holes on the legs?

So what was the point of the Wheelie Accessory?

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So what was the point of the Wheelie Accessory?

They mentioned on one of the livestreams that they didn't yet know they could make core class figures, so they included the mini-figs as a little something

Someone else can probably recall better than me

Razorbeast88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So what was the point of the Wheelie Accessory?

They mentioned on one of the livestreams that they didn't yet know they could make core class figures, so they included the mini-figs as a little something

Someone else can probably recall better than me

Oh ok. so I take it then that we can expect a SS'86 Daniel to follow now? As a retool (ish) of Spike?

-Kanrabat- wrote:This Wheelie I'll have to get.

I wonder if it will be compatible with SS86 Grimlock with the same peg holes on the legs?

My thoughts exactly! I don't see the same pegs/holes, but that could be because of the bad image.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So what was the point of the Wheelie Accessory?

They mentioned on one of the livestreams that they didn't yet know they could make core class figures, so they included the mini-figs as a little something

Someone else can probably recall better than me

Oh ok. so I take it then that we can expect a SS'86 Daniel to follow now? As a retool (ish) of Spike?

I was wondering the same, though I'm not sure they'd go for it

Yeesh. Unless it looks better in other pics, I'll stick with the Legends version over that scrawny thing.

Razorbeast88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So what was the point of the Wheelie Accessory?

They mentioned on one of the livestreams that they didn't yet know they could make core class figures, so they included the mini-figs as a little something

Someone else can probably recall better than me

There's no better recall than that. That's what they said.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So what was the point of the Wheelie Accessory?

They mentioned on one of the livestreams that they didn't yet know they could make core class figures, so they included the mini-figs as a little something

Someone else can probably recall better than me

Oh ok. so I take it then that we can expect a SS'86 Daniel to follow now? As a retool (ish) of Spike?

How would it be any different from Spike?

Anyways, I find it's kinds of crazy that Wheelie gets this many figures. And unlike other toys, like Perceptor where it's incrementally getting to the show accurate not headmaster version, we already had a G1 accurate Wheelie in TR. With this release we now have 3 different molds for G1 accurate Wheelies in the same scale released in the past few years, two of them transforming, and all in mainline releases. All the while, Optimus Prime himself is stuck using the same base mold for 4 mainlines in a row, even though it gives him vestigial parts.

While I get the fiddliness of TR Wheelie, I will keep that toy over this one. I really like the clear plastic window and the fact that someone can actually ride in him. They really went above and beyond for that little toy

Neat looking figure, will likely get it to complete the 86 lineup. Was never a big fan of Blurr or Wheelie so they're not essential but if I can get them at a deal I won't pass them up. And since I never got the Legends figure this version will save $20+ extra in tracking that older version down.

I guess I'll switch out my Legends Wheelie for this one. The little guys are cheap enough for me not to feel bad if it turns out to be a dud after I buy it.

But this is it for Wheelie for me. Last one.

william-james88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Oh ok. so I take it then that we can expect a SS'86 Daniel to follow now? As a retool (ish) of Spike?

How would it be any different from Spike?

That's what I thought, as writing. That's why I opted for "retool (ish)". As a smaller human head would be all I could think of to separate the two.

A friend of mine bought the upgrade kit for Grimlock & Wheelie. So it will be interesting to compare that Wheelie 2.0 to this upcoming Core Class one.

But, yeah. That is a lot of effort over the last few years. For arguably the worst '86 Movie character.

I think it’s great that they’re going forward to make a Wheelie that can pose with the Dinobots that’s not some hunched over static figure. However, he just looks off to me, proportion wise. The legs and chest\waist area looks funky. Maybe it’s just the nature of the blurry image, but I’ll stick with my Titans Return Wheelie for now.

WOWOWOWOWOWOWW! AMAZING!

Think I'll be sticking to my TR and Legends Wheelie. Chest may be better on the ss86 but those lower wheel arms are ugly and can't beat a toy that can fit titan master Daniel to ride in him.

Kind of weird going from a line like TR where I'd spend money to get a better deco/version of a toy or even both versions to not even wanting a toy in a line.

blackeyedprime wrote:Think I'll be sticking to my TR and Legends Wheelie. Chest may be better on the ss86 but those lower wheel arms are ugly and can't beat a toy that can fit titan master Daniel to ride in him.

Kind of weird going from a line like TR where I'd spend money to get a better deco/version of a toy or even both versions to not even wanting a toy in a line.

Tr wheelie looks great, and was the best version before this new one. I'd stick with tr if I already had it, seeing what an insignificant charecter Wheelie really is.

blackeyedprime wrote:Think I'll be sticking to my TR and Legends Wheelie. Chest may be better on the ss86 but those lower wheel arms are ugly and can't beat a toy that can fit titan master Daniel to ride in him.

Kind of weird going from a line like TR where I'd spend money to get a better deco/version of a toy or even both versions to not even wanting a toy in a line.

The tabs on my TR copy are too thick to properly transform him into alt-mode, which I thought was a universal problem with the mold. I was really happy with that figure at the time and plan to hold onto him, but this still looks like it'll be an upgrade for me, but then I don't have the Legends deco.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Tr wheelie looks great, and was the best version before this new one. I'd stick with tr if I already had it, seeing what an insignificant charecter Wheelie really is.

He was great in headmasters....ok...maybe not, but he was kind of a main character...oh wait that's still not a good thing. But even then compared to the humping robot version in baynus...poor wheelie.