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New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale

Transformers News: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale

Wednesday, April 6th, 2022 11:12PM CDT

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Chefatron also got their hands on the leader class Legacy Blitzwing toy. In their review, we have a whole ton of comparisons. You see Blitzwing compared to every major version of that character since Animated. This definitely helps those who wonder if the Titans return version truly is good enough for their collection. We have comparisons to all modes and shots of the tank show further confirm that there is no mistransformation, that phalic purple shape emerging from the front of the tank is there by design (and to be more G1 accurate).
We also have shots of this Blitzwing with his fellow Decepticon triple changers, giving you an idea of how he scales with them. There is also a clever shot of him next to two other recent leader class releases, with everything they come with, for you to determine the value for yourself. And of course, we have a shot with Megatron so that you can see how that scaling works.

Let us know if any of these images change your mind.

Transformers News: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale

Transformers News: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale

Transformers News: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale

Transformers News: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale

Transformers News: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale

Transformers News: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale

Transformers News: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale

Transformers News: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale

Transformers News: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale

Transformers News: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale

Transformers News: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale

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Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130770)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 6th, 2022 @ 11:21pm CDT
And the winner is... Titans Return!!!

Though, I'd still like to see comparisons with the Legends deco, too.

Also, every Voyager in those pics is bigger in robot mode than both the Leaders Blitzwing and Astrotrain (while Galvatron is the only big Leader). Was not expecting that.

Though, speaking of Astrotrain, he's mistransformed in those pics. His waist flaps are folded up, exposing the tops of his legs.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130772)
Posted by Solrac333 on April 6th, 2022 @ 11:42pm CDT
Look at that "Leader" class figure.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130773)
Posted by primalxconvoy on April 6th, 2022 @ 11:52pm CDT
I think the TT Legends version is still the superior one. Easy pass unless they repaint it as another character.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130774)
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on April 7th, 2022 @ 12:03am CDT
I'm just... absolutely shocked that it's such a backwards evolution from the Titan's Return figure which felt so flawless(!) and even managed a passable Megatron.

I feel the 'nose cone' in tank mode that... despite my memory... is apparently 'Toon Accurate' was a bad call.

I've... been trying to figure out why I've felt so 'burned out' with Transformers... and I think it's really the fact that we've had two really good trilogies... that unfortunately suffered from covering the same ground twice (three times with the 'cybertron'/'earth' in WFC- which probably increased the burnout).

I ended up picking up Dragstrip out of curiosity and the fact that I didn't see a currently listed wave where he was re-packed (though I imagine we'll get a Menasor gift set at Titan price).

I'm also not feeling the G1'd Prime figures. Bulkhead I might get if they retool him into something else, same with Arcee. I'll probably cave on the RID/Black Convoy if I can find it (I also think i'm tired of all the store exclusives- and shipping woes in general- which has really curbed my 'hunting' joys).

I think the 'double' release of Galvatron this short around (plus the original tooling issues there) aren't helping either.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130777)
Posted by william-james88 on April 7th, 2022 @ 12:37am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:And the winner is... Titans Return!!!

Though, I'd still like to see comparisons with the Legends deco, too.

Also, every Voyager in those pics is bigger in robot mode than both the Leaders Blitzwing and Astrotrain (while Galvatron is the only big Leader). Was not expecting that.

Though, speaking of Astrotrain, he's mistransformed in those pics. His waist flaps are folded up, exposing the tops of his legs.


And those voyagers are about the same height as leader Galvatron.
As for Astrotrain, is the Shuttle mode also mistransformed. I remember the front half being more bulky/square than I'd like but man does that look terrible.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130779)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on April 7th, 2022 @ 1:51am CDT
Moonshot wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:Found the following on Instagram...
Obviously take with a grain of salt; neither of these may be legit.

Menasor teaser??
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It's not a teaser, it's a silhouette of some fan art (probably from Deviantart) Image



Good eye mate, good eye. Unless its your fan art, lol.

Definitely not mine but, if it was up to me, it would be what Menasor looks like :lol:
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130781)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 7th, 2022 @ 4:25am CDT
Solrac333 wrote:Look at that "Leader" class figure.


They should bring back the old "ULTRA CLASS" term to replace the current "leader" one.

The true modern leader class figures are the Commanders.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130786)
Posted by sol magnus on April 7th, 2022 @ 5:59am CDT
I'll definitely be getting Legacy Blitzwing. I also think he's better than Titans Return in pretty nuch every way.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130789)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on April 7th, 2022 @ 6:53am CDT
I'll stick with Gen Blitzwing. I'm just not feeling Legacy enough to replace him and I have to be more picky about my purchases these days. It's $100 CAN after taxes and that's a lot for something I'm not all-in for.

Wish there were more comparison shots with him, though.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130791)
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on April 7th, 2022 @ 7:06am CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I'll stick with Gen Blitzwing. I'm just not feeling Legacy enough to replace him and I have to be more picky about my purchases these days. It's $100 CAN after taxes and that's a lot for something I'm not all-in for.

Wish there were more comparison shots with him, though.


Good point about the price hikes. I hadn't really noticed with the Voyagers (maybe they've escaped it for the time being) but when I was picking up some deluxes for myself and a friend... I about choked when four of them was over $100 (US).

I actually dug out the Generations version recently... the fact that the paint on the head was... tacky... worried me... also wasn't that version notorious for a shoulder issue?

That could be another reason why I'm flagging on the current transformers series. Funnily enough I enjoyed the BotsBots on Netflix enough I may hunt some of those down again.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130792)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on April 7th, 2022 @ 7:16am CDT
sol magnus wrote:I'll definitely be getting Legacy Blitzwing. I also think he's better than Titans Return in pretty nuch every way.

Every way except for height, which some people are still salty about for some reason.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130793)
Posted by Emerje on April 7th, 2022 @ 7:17am CDT
Personally I think Blitzwing is a better looking figure than Astrotrain. I'm not happy with any of AT's modes, bot, shuttle or train, but I at least like Blitzwing's bot and tank modes (phallus notwithstanding). Wish the jet mode was better, though, could it possibly be our worst jet mode of any figure ever?

Emerje
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130795)
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on April 7th, 2022 @ 7:23am CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:
sol magnus wrote:I'll definitely be getting Legacy Blitzwing. I also think he's better than Titans Return in pretty nuch every way.

Every way except for height, which some people are still salty about for some reason.


I still don't get the arguments about height/class any more either... That ship sailed almost six years ago at this point.

Emerje wrote:Personally I think Blitzwing is a better looking figure than Astrotrain. I'm not happy with any of AT's modes, bot, shuttle or train, but I at least like Blitzwing's bot and tank modes (phallus notwithstanding). Wish the jet mode was better, though, could it possibly be our worst jet mode of any figure ever?
Emerje


What boggles my mind is... somehow it's even boxier than the TR one, which... actually handled it pretty well imo...

One thing that will forever live in TR's favor regardless of figure.. is going to be the fact they were all functional vehicles for their headmasters. That's actually a play pattern I dearly miss (including the wonky out of scale Leader/Bases).

Going back and looking at the pictures I guess 'box under jet' is the price to be paid for those kibble free arms from the TR version. While I didn't mind the wings wrapping around the backside of the tank... looking at the Legacy version... it is kind of nice not having them there any more. But... still hoping we can hid that nosecone better...
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130796)
Posted by sol magnus on April 7th, 2022 @ 7:58am CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:
sol magnus wrote:I'll definitely be getting Legacy Blitzwing. I also think he's better than Titans Return in pretty nuch every way.

Every way except for height, which some people are still salty about for some reason.

They're size queens. LOL I don't care how big people think a toy should be for a class because it's a pointless argument on a few levels, the chief one being that's just not what Hasbro is doing anymore. To coin a phrase "It's over. Finished."

I'm a scale queen, though. In terms of robot mode scale he's the correct size against Megatron going by the show, which is what they're going by. Anyhting else is, to coin another phrase, "surplus to requirements."*

*from my point of view, you guys are welcome to your opinions.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130797)
Posted by MeGrimlock78 on April 7th, 2022 @ 8:02am CDT
SpikeyTigertron wrote:I still don't get the arguments about height/class any more either... That ship sailed almost six years ago at this point.


My issue with the height is that I want to be able to mix CHUG with Prime Wars with WFC with Legacy. Some figures end up looking ridiculously small next to older (superior?) figures.

It makes me sound old, but the fact that Classics Sunstreaker/Sideswipe were $15, and are almost as tall as a $45 Kingdom Voyager is just plain silly.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130798)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on April 7th, 2022 @ 8:06am CDT
SpikeyTigertron wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I'll stick with Gen Blitzwing. I'm just not feeling Legacy enough to replace him and I have to be more picky about my purchases these days. It's $100 CAN after taxes and that's a lot for something I'm not all-in for.

Wish there were more comparison shots with him, though.


Good point about the price hikes. I hadn't really noticed with the Voyagers (maybe they've escaped it for the time being) but when I was picking up some deluxes for myself and a friend... I about choked when four of them was over $100 (US).

I actually dug out the Generations version recently... the fact that the paint on the head was... tacky... worried me... also wasn't that version notorious for a shoulder issue?

That could be another reason why I'm flagging on the current transformers series. Funnily enough I enjoyed the BotsBots on Netflix enough I may hunt some of those down again.

There was a 3rd party replacement head and shoulders add-ons that fixed those issues which I got waaaaaaay back in the day. I don't know if the paint on the original head has degraded since then; not in a position to check that out.

For me this isn't buying a new product, but replacing an older one which I like decently enough. It's one of those kind of decisions in modern collecting. To replace or not replace? Is it better enough? Do you like the character enough? Is the price too high?
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130799)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on April 7th, 2022 @ 8:24am CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:
SpikeyTigertron wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I'll stick with Gen Blitzwing. I'm just not feeling Legacy enough to replace him and I have to be more picky about my purchases these days. It's $100 CAN after taxes and that's a lot for something I'm not all-in for.

Wish there were more comparison shots with him, though.


Good point about the price hikes. I hadn't really noticed with the Voyagers (maybe they've escaped it for the time being) but when I was picking up some deluxes for myself and a friend... I about choked when four of them was over $100 (US).

I actually dug out the Generations version recently... the fact that the paint on the head was... tacky... worried me... also wasn't that version notorious for a shoulder issue?

That could be another reason why I'm flagging on the current transformers series. Funnily enough I enjoyed the BotsBots on Netflix enough I may hunt some of those down again.

There was a 3rd party replacement head and shoulders add-ons that fixed those issues which I got waaaaaaay back in the day. I don't know if the paint on the original head has degraded since then; not in a position to check that out.

For me this isn't buying a new product, but replacing an older one which I like decently enough.

For anyone that likes the older Generations aesthetic, especially the liberties in the Classics designs, I'm happy for you if you're not getting the updated figures. Personally, I never bought into that, I always wanted modern toys with G1 toy and cartoon designs. Even the Combiner Wars vehicle designs were too different for my taste. There are limitations from the contemporary design priorities, as faux parts are becoming much more common, but there are always trade-offs one way or another.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130800)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on April 7th, 2022 @ 8:28am CDT
MeGrimlock78 wrote:
SpikeyTigertron wrote:I still don't get the arguments about height/class any more either... That ship sailed almost six years ago at this point.


My issue with the height is that I want to be able to mix CHUG with Prime Wars with WFC with Legacy. Some figures end up looking ridiculously small next to older (superior?) figures.

It makes me sound old, but the fact that Classics Sunstreaker/Sideswipe were $15, and are almost as tall as a $45 Kingdom Voyager is just plain silly.

Yeah, but Classics Sunstreaker and Sideswipe look like garbage next to WfC IMHO. Class sizes, height, and scale are all only indirectly related to each other across the 20 year lifespan of so-called CHUG, and there's generally consistency within individual brand lines, but it's an unfair expectation across Generations as a whole. I'd much rather have new design and engineering principles over an ongoing scale guideline.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130801)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on April 7th, 2022 @ 8:43am CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:. Personally, I never bought into that, I always wanted modern toys with G1 toy and cartoon designs.
...

Yeah, but Classics Sunstreaker and Sideswipe look like garbage next to WfC IMHO. Class sizes, height, and scale are all only indirectly related to each other across the 20 year lifespan of so-called CHUG, and there's generally consistency within individual brand lines, but it's an unfair expectation across Generations as a whole. I'd much rather have new design and engineering principles over an ongoing scale guideline.

Ouch, I think those versions still look great. :lol:

I get where you're coming from, though. There are some characters I want to look as G1 as possible, while others I just care about whether they look good. It isn't consistent with me AT ALL. I guess it comes down to how strong of an affinity I have for the individual character.

Plus, after spending years collecting the entire G1 cast the question becomes "do I want to replace my entire collection with newer, more expensive versions?" Not really. Just the ones I think really need it for one reason or another.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130803)
Posted by william-james88 on April 7th, 2022 @ 8:54am CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wish there were more comparison shots with him, though.


Well these are from a review on youtube so you could go see. I think the guy was pretty thorough with comparisons here.

Emerje wrote: Wish the jet mode was better, though, could it possibly be our worst jet mode of any figure ever?


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MeGrimlock78 wrote:It makes me sound old, but the fact that Classics Sunstreaker/Sideswipe were $15, and are almost as tall as a $45 Kingdom Voyager is just plain silly.


Sure it is silly, just like pointing out that this other unrelated toy is still only $15 right now and over 10 inches. Talk about hasbro giving us a ton of value in this modern age

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Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130804)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on April 7th, 2022 @ 8:56am CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Plus, after spending years collecting the entire G1 cast the question becomes "do I want to replace my entire collection with newer, more expensive versions?" Not really. Just the ones I think really need it for one reason or another.

I wish I had that much sense. I've only really been collecting since Combiner Wars, and between TR vs. Kingdom/SS86 and Siege vs. Earthrise/Kingdom, I've bought dozens of characters multiple times. That's a lot of double dipping in just six years. I've sold off some to make up for it, but I rationalize others by creating new display concepts (e.g. unique figures for season 3 and season 4, and distinct toy and show versions of '85 and '86 characters.)
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130806)
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on April 7th, 2022 @ 9:02am CDT
But see, it was the unified scale/aesthetic that got me to (re)buy the same characters for the past two trilogies lol. (So Hasbro marketing achieved I supposed).

But having gone back “into the bins” to dig around some of the older stuff…. It just doesn’t hold the same…. Quality (?) possibility. Of the current stuff. We’ve certainly been more spoiled in articulation that at any point in Tf history (including some MPs).

It’s kind of like a lot of the movie lines and how much they’ve changed over the years in size/scale/quality. Some of the older stuff holds up like Battle Blades Optimus…. others less so.

I love generations Jetfire for what he was (the voyager fast pack one) but the newer commander it’s arguable the accurate *actual* Skyfire.

And there’s ultimately room for one, both, none (?).

Everyone collects differently. But the QQing of (old) prices and (old) sizes… really doesn’t get us anywhere in discussions any more. Those ships have sailed.

AcademyofDrX wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Plus, after spending years collecting the entire G1 cast the question becomes "do I want to replace my entire collection with newer, more expensive versions?" Not really. Just the ones I think really need it for one reason or another.

I wish I had that much sense. I've only really been collecting since Combiner Wars, and between TR vs. Kingdom/SS86 and Siege vs. Earthrise/Kingdom, I've bought dozens of characters multiple times. That's a lot of double dipping in just six years. I've sold off some to make up for it, but I rationalize others by creating new display concepts (e.g. unique figures for season 3 and season 4, and distinct toy and show versions of '85 and '86 characters.)


I’ve been much in the same boat. Honestly, it was Combiner Wars that brought me back into collection (almost entire lines since). Though to be fair…. Generations was on a pretty rough spot prior to CW.

The WfC-video game figured were tiny and… not great. And the IDW/comic sets were also all over the place with who knew what characters you were getting.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130808)
Posted by DeathReviews on April 7th, 2022 @ 9:25am CDT
I'll probably get Legacy Blitzwing, just because I have many of the others. I admit I'm disappointed by that thing jutting from the front of the tank, they really should have done something different with the engineering. Just because the G1 figure did it, doesn't mean the modern remake 'has' to repeat the engineering mistakes of the 1980s. And that tank kibble under the jet wings? That just seems gauche, like the designers weren't even trying. And I'd be more sold with those gauntlets - IF the fingers could be properly articulated and used as hands. A joint in each knuckle, so you could pose and splay each finger, would have turned those from comic afterthoughts into awesome accessories. Seeing them attached to Blitzwing as balled up fists, or with the fingers splayed out and a fireblast plugged into each one, would make them desirable, instead of an embarrassment.

Respecting the past ought to mean that you learn from it's mistakes and correct them. Keep what was good, but fix what was wrong.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130809)
Posted by MeGrimlock78 on April 7th, 2022 @ 9:58am CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:. Personally, I never bought into that, I always wanted modern toys with G1 toy and cartoon designs.
...

Yeah, but Classics Sunstreaker and Sideswipe look like garbage next to WfC IMHO. Class sizes, height, and scale are all only indirectly related to each other across the 20 year lifespan of so-called CHUG, and there's generally consistency within individual brand lines, but it's an unfair expectation across Generations as a whole. I'd much rather have new design and engineering principles over an ongoing scale guideline.

Ouch, I think those versions still look great. :lol:

I get where you're coming from, though. There are some characters I want to look as G1 as possible, while others I just care about whether they look good. It isn't consistent with me AT ALL. I guess it comes down to how strong of an affinity I have for the individual character.

Plus, after spending years collecting the entire G1 cast the question becomes "do I want to replace my entire collection with newer, more expensive versions?" Not really. Just the ones I think really need it for one reason or another.


Amen brother.

Generations Springer is still all kinds of awesome.

But Classics Jetfire vs Siege Skyfire? No comparison.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130815)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on April 7th, 2022 @ 11:06am CDT
There should be a top ten toys we didn't replace.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130816)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on April 7th, 2022 @ 11:11am CDT
My wish for the hands was literally just CW/UW Devastator style hands with a knuckle joint for open or closed, 5mm port to hold weapons, and a post for it to turn into an actual missile pod. Apparently that was too much to ask for, but eh. I have yet to get a Blitzwing, and I actually really like the bot mode, so he'll do. Wish the jet mode was a bit cleaner, and wish the tank mode was cleaner, but I've already rationalized what the cockpit could be so it's whatever. Only thing about bot mode that would have made this my ideal Blitzwing is turn the little hump in his chest into the cockpit like DX9 Gewalt
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Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130817)
Posted by Autobot N on April 7th, 2022 @ 12:30pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:
sol magnus wrote:I'll definitely be getting Legacy Blitzwing. I also think he's better than Titans Return in pretty nuch every way.

Every way except for height, which some people are still salty about for some reason.
This is what we deserve for complaining about scale for so long
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130819)
Posted by william-james88 on April 7th, 2022 @ 12:43pm CDT
Autobot N wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
sol magnus wrote:I'll definitely be getting Legacy Blitzwing. I also think he's better than Titans Return in pretty nuch every way.

Every way except for height, which some people are still salty about for some reason.
This is what we deserve for complaining about scale for so long


The joys of lack of scale can still be had in the Cyberverse line. There, a deluxe arcee is the same size as deluxe megatron and deluxe grimlock.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130820)
Posted by cruizerdave on April 7th, 2022 @ 1:29pm CDT
Better tank but worse jet and robo modes than the TR version.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130821)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on April 7th, 2022 @ 1:57pm CDT
Pre-Siege I think my only real scale complain was a too small Starscream, Ironhide, and Ratchet. Everyone else was about right. Not perfect, mind, but "about right." For me Siege Jetfire was a pass because, even if it's toon accurate, he was just too tall. Leader Jetfire is just right.

My main scale nitpick is to have all cars be deluxe class. I hate mini cars. Mini bots, mini cons, micromasters, doesn't matter. I know, I'm very much in the minority here, but even as a kid I'd look at Bumblebee and just not get why he's so much smaller when he transforms into a car like everybody else.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130823)
Posted by Starseeker on April 7th, 2022 @ 2:54pm CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Pre-Siege I think my only real scale complain was a too small Starscream, Ironhide, and Ratchet. Everyone else was about right. Not perfect, mind, but "about right." For me Siege Jetfire was a pass because, even if it's toon accurate, he was just too tall. Leader Jetfire is just right.

My main scale nitpick is to have all cars be deluxe class. I hate mini cars. Mini bots, mini cons, micromasters, doesn't matter. I know, I'm very much in the minority here, but even as a kid I'd look at Bumblebee and just not get why he's so much smaller when he transforms into a car like everybody else.


No, they did right by having Siege Jetfire be commander class. He's significantly larger than everyone else in the original cartoon and in the Netflix show. He's supposed to be a big dude. I love Siege Jetfire. He's freaking awesome.
As far as Legacy, you know who should be commander class? Dragon Megs! This is another case where height does matter. Megs grows in size by putting the original Megs spark inside him, so it makes sense for his toy to be larger than everyone else. He should be able to at least scale with POTP Optimal Optimus.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130824)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on April 7th, 2022 @ 3:09pm CDT
That's where "to me" comes in. I know he's huge in the cartoon. But he also doesn't share the screen with any combiners and, once more - in my eyes - he shouldn't be as tall as a combiner. It doesn't look right. I want him bigger than most bots, but smaller then combiners and old Leader hits that sweet spot.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130825)
Posted by SpaceEagle on April 7th, 2022 @ 3:44pm CDT
I think I'm probably the kind of fan the recent stuff has been catering to in regards to scale - personally I don't like it when toys are just stupidly large for the sake of being stupidly large. Sure it was cool having Ultimate Bumblebee when I was wee youngster...but with space being a thing as an adult and preferring robots to feel more unique rather than all being forced to fit the same 5"/7"/9" height of their size class. I mean, heck, reminds me of good ol' G1 with specific sizes being such a hubbub - only this time it fees a LOT better rather than an assortment of bots at random sizes, el oh el.

Anyway, I still think this Blitz looks better than the TR version by a long shot, and the scale with his fellow recent bots feels right to me. "Leader Class" doesn't have to mean "has to be 9 inches", it can go into better things like accessories and articulation, something I care much more about than if he's as big as my cat. (Albeit, I'll still agree that the gauntlets seem rather silly until I can see what they're actually supposed to compliment. Looking like the Energon toyline's combiner fists, I still wonder if we'll be getting some kind of modern update on one of them? Who knows.)
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130827)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on April 7th, 2022 @ 5:16pm CDT
Another reason I think this new Blitzwing looks better, specifically the bot mode, is because the proportions are way better…
The TR version basically has monkey arms… Not to mention the arm kibble…
The head is a bit too small as well compared to, almost everything else.
Also, it may look better in person, but the way the TR face is painted is very mehhh.

This is again an example of how, sure, the other versions have enough elements to look like Blitzwing.
But in terms of those looking like the G1 character model — which clearly enough people appreciate— they just don’t.

If I were into tanks, jets, and other vehicles, then yes the alt modes would matter more to me.
But being characters, for me, the bot mode (and in turn the appearances of the bot modes) are always far and away the more/most important in my eyes.

Again, I cannot wait to finally have this figure on one of my shelves!!
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130832)
Posted by Emerje on April 7th, 2022 @ 8:55pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote: Wish the jet mode was better, though, could it possibly be our worst jet mode of any figure ever?


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I actually like the Broadside figure. It is so far from looking like anything real thanks to the clear wings that I can easily look at it and say "that's a space ship", and a big one at that making the mass shifting all the easier to swallow.

About Jetfire, I like both figures equally, one gives me the toy aesthetic while the other handles the cartoon. Too be fair I don't think combiners have ever been handled with proper scale in nearly any media, especially the original cartoon, there's too much mass shifting going on (but not as bad as the modern comics!). I think Siege Jetfire is the right size for scale compared to Devastator and Predaking and Omega Supreme, not so much the standard combiners.

Emerje
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130833)
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on April 7th, 2022 @ 11:49pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote: Wish the jet mode was better, though, could it possibly be our worst jet mode of any figure ever?


Image

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I actually like the Broadside figure. It is so far from looking like anything real thanks to the clear wings that I can easily look at it and say "that's a space ship", and a big one at that making the mass shifting all the easier to swallow.

About Jetfire, I like both figures equally, one gives me the toy aesthetic while the other handles the cartoon. Too be fair I don't think combiners have ever been handled with proper scale in nearly any media, especially the original cartoon, there's too much mass shifting going on (but not as bad as the modern comics!). I think Siege Jetfire is the right size for scale compared to Devastator and Predaking and Omega Supreme, not so much the standard combiners.

Emerje


I'd really like to hear the '[un]official story' on what happend with Broadside. Considering there's some pretty easy 'fan-mode' swaps you can do to get a pretty propper jet... I just... feel like someone fumbled a ball somewhere.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130838)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 8th, 2022 @ 4:49am CDT
SpikeyTigertron wrote:I'd really like to hear the '[un]official story' on what happend with Broadside. Considering there's some pretty easy 'fan-mode' swaps you can do to get a pretty propper jet... I just... feel like someone fumbled a ball somewhere.


Easy.
They asked the Hasbro photographer to come up with the jet mode and went along with that.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130839)
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on April 8th, 2022 @ 5:34am CDT
Except, it wouldn't have the locking tabs where it does. That's what confounds me. Someone officially ran with this oddly shaped ball lol.

Back to Legacy.... Having had Legacy Kickback in hand... I'm really torn with him. He does the job he's required to do... and it's not like his conversion was ever *involved* but... somehow it left me wanting.

Skids was actually a rather nice little awkward gem.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130847)
Posted by sol magnus on April 8th, 2022 @ 8:40am CDT
I picked up Iguanus in that Hasbro Pulse stock last week. He's pretty cool.

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My intention with Core Class is generally to just get the ones that are 'in scale' with the larger figures, however, I can be convinced collecting the silly tech specs they put on the boxes. I was disappointed to see Iguanus didn't have one on his box only to be pleasantly surprised to see it on his instruction booklet*.

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Here he is in motorcycle mode. He is sturdy enough, but he feels kind of loose in the limbs. Not sure if its my copy or all of them, but he's definitely one you don't want to be switching modes on a lot.

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And here he is with his fellow G1 Decepticons from Wave 1 for scale purposes -

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*I checked Legacy Silverstreak's instruction since he also didn't have a Tech Spec on his box and unfortunately there isn't one. Ironically, the Masterpiece version MP-18 Bluestreak has a bunch of ? for specs because he's from an alternate universe, so maybe that's what they're going for here.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130849)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on April 8th, 2022 @ 9:59am CDT
I picked up Bulkhead last night and I was surprised that all the Bulkhead figures and the Buzz Silversteaks had NO plastic in their cut out windows!

I was out on this one but I wish the nimrod that decided this can get a nice slap to the back of their gourd. Like people are NOT going to reach in now and fiddle and touch these figures with no doubt unclean fingers :SICK: ...I call BS 'nuff said! :VEHI:
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130850)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on April 8th, 2022 @ 10:14am CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:I picked up Bulkhead last night and I was surprised that all the Bulkhead figures and the Buzz Silversteaks had NO plastic in their cut out windows!

I was out on this one but I wish the nimrod that decided this can get a nice slap to the back of their gourd. Like people are NOT going to reach in now and fiddle and touch these figures with no doubt unclean fingers :SICK: ...I call BS 'nuff said! :VEHI:

This is going to be the new standard. I don't have the same concern, but you may want to start ordering online or regularly disinfecting toys with light cleaning. If it's any consolation, handling toys is a relatively low-risk illness vector compared to food or airborne viruses.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130851)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 8th, 2022 @ 11:32am CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:I picked up Bulkhead last night and I was surprised that all the Bulkhead figures and the Buzz Silversteaks had NO plastic in their cut out windows!

I was out on this one but I wish the nimrod that decided this can get a nice slap to the back of their gourd. Like people are NOT going to reach in now and fiddle and touch these figures with no doubt unclean fingers :SICK: ...I call BS 'nuff said! :VEHI:

This is going to be the new standard. I don't have the same concern, but you may want to start ordering online or regularly disinfecting toys with light cleaning. If it's any consolation, handling toys is a relatively low-risk illness vector compared to food or airborne viruses.


And it's not like it's totally new; Cyberverse has been doing that for the larger toys, and Rescue Bots are also out in the open air. They do say exposure helps with building immunity and prevent allergies ;)
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130855)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on April 8th, 2022 @ 2:42pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:I picked up Bulkhead last night and I was surprised that all the Bulkhead figures and the Buzz Silversteaks had NO plastic in their cut out windows!

I was out on this one but I wish the nimrod that decided this can get a nice slap to the back of their gourd. Like people are NOT going to reach in now and fiddle and touch these figures with no doubt unclean fingers :SICK: ...I call BS 'nuff said! :VEHI:

This is going to be the new standard. I don't have the same concern, but you may want to start ordering online or regularly disinfecting toys with light cleaning. If it's any consolation, handling toys is a relatively low-risk illness vector compared to food or airborne viruses.


And it's not like it's totally new; Cyberverse has been doing that for the larger toys, and Rescue Bots are also out in the open air. They do say exposure helps with building immunity and prevent allergies ;)



Yeah well its a lame ass standard....I'm looking at you :HASBRO: / :TAKARATOMY: .

It's just that great feeling that you bought something new....MISP knowing that you and only you had first touch besides those at the factory. Then the Eggheads go and pull this new standard with other peoples finger prints all over the exposed figure damnation!!! :BOOM: :VEHI:
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130858)
Posted by william-james88 on April 8th, 2022 @ 3:23pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:I picked up Bulkhead last night and I was surprised that all the Bulkhead figures and the Buzz Silversteaks had NO plastic in their cut out windows!

I was out on this one but I wish the nimrod that decided this can get a nice slap to the back of their gourd. Like people are NOT going to reach in now and fiddle and touch these figures with no doubt unclean fingers :SICK: ...I call BS 'nuff said! :VEHI:

This is going to be the new standard. I don't have the same concern, but you may want to start ordering online or regularly disinfecting toys with light cleaning. If it's any consolation, handling toys is a relatively low-risk illness vector compared to food or airborne viruses.


And it's not like it's totally new; Cyberverse has been doing that for the larger toys, and Rescue Bots are also out in the open air. They do say exposure helps with building immunity and prevent allergies ;)



Yeah well its a lame ass standard....I'm looking at you :HASBRO: / :TAKARATOMY: .

It's just that great feeling that you bought something new....MISP knowing that you and only you had first touch besides those at the factory. Then the Eggheads go and pull this new standard with other peoples finger prints all over the exposed figure damnation!!! :BOOM: :VEHI:


So just buy leaders and commanders then, show your dislike by not buying the others.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130859)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on April 8th, 2022 @ 3:44pm CDT
Speaking of Commanders:
Motor.jpg
Master.jpg

Got it off TFW, who got it off a South Korean barcode database/website.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130860)
Posted by sol magnus on April 8th, 2022 @ 3:46pm CDT
That...is exciting.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130866)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on April 8th, 2022 @ 4:26pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:That...is exciting.


Very!!!!
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130868)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on April 8th, 2022 @ 4:47pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:Speaking of Commanders:
Motor.jpg
Master.jpg

Got it off TFW, who got it off a South Korean barcode database/website.

I'm willing to bet that means we'll see Motormaster Tuesday!
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130870)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on April 8th, 2022 @ 5:14pm CDT
That's not real, that's not possible!

I'll believe it when I see it officially, we're not too far from April 1st after all and could be a late prank..

That said from what I can see of the cover art on the box it's gonna look Awesome and I can't wait!
I won't get them all but Motormaster was always my favorite, though I also like Dead End a little too.
Re: New Comparison Shots to Give You a Sense of Legacy Blitzwing's Scale (2130876)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on April 8th, 2022 @ 6:26pm CDT
JTPrime17 found Blitzwing's box from the same source as well:
blitzwing.jpg
Which definitely (sadly) confirms that the tank protrusion is intentional and not mistransformed, but it also seems to indicate that there's a way to actually transform the gauntlets that the early review missed and maaaybe that the jet mode was also mistransformed? It's very small in this art, it's hard to tell, but I don't think I see big tank slabs sticking out the sides of the jet underbelly.

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