Netflix Transformers Series Ultra Magnus and Deluxes Found at US Retail

Have we found out what's the spoiler in the Ultra Magnus box?

A jolly rancher flavored Rung

Seibertron wrote:Have we found out what's the spoiler in the Ultra Magnus box?

It's Rung in spoilerific colors, IIRC.

Seibertron wrote:Have we found out what's the spoiler in the Ultra Magnus box?

I'm not too sure, honestly.

Seibertron wrote:Have we found out what's the spoiler in the Ultra Magnus box?

It's the story spoilers printed in Cybertronian text on the inside of the box.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Have we found out what's the spoiler in the Ultra Magnus box?

It's the story spoilers printed in Cybertronian text on the inside of the box.

Yeah, but do we know exactly what that is though? Has that text in full been reported anywhere online?

Seibertron wrote:Have we found out what's the spoiler in the Ultra Magnus box?

Yep, it's a teaser for how the Netflix series is going to pan out, with major spoilers for the entire run. The spoiler itself is easily seen when one looks at the deco Magnus was given.

Disappointment.

I found the deluxes and voyagers at a Walmart in KY today. No sign of Magnus.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Have we found out what's the spoiler in the Ultra Magnus box?

Yep, it's a teaser for how the Netflix series is going to pan out, with major spoilers for the entire run. The spoiler itself is easily seen when one looks at the deco Magnus was given.

Disappointment.

BE SURE TO DRINK YOUR OVALTINE...

The SS voyager Megatrons are silver. They're brighter than Netflix Megatron.

How pissed would you be if you found out this Chromia has a combiner peg?

Rodimus Prime wrote:The SS voyager Megatrons are silver. They're brighter than Netflix Megatron.

How pissed would you be if you found out this Chromia has a combiner peg?

Honestly, it would make me want her more because there would be more than just dirt effects to distinguish her from the Siege version

Lore Keeper wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:The SS voyager Megatrons are silver. They're brighter than Netflix Megatron.

How pissed would you be if you found out this Chromia has a combiner peg?

Honestly, it would make me want her more because there would be more than just dirt effects to distinguish her from the Siege version

Me too. But I would be a bit upset about buying the previous version, which could have had the peg just as easily.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:The SS voyager Megatrons are silver. They're brighter than Netflix Megatron.

How pissed would you be if you found out this Chromia has a combiner peg?

Honestly, it would make me want her more because there would be more than just dirt effects to distinguish her from the Siege version

Me too. But I would be a bit upset about buying the previous version, which could have had the peg just as easily.

At we know it does not have one.

Rodimus Prime wrote: How pissed would you be if you found out this Chromia has a combiner peg?

Actually I'd be ecstatic. I didn't purchase the previous version for that very reason, and I need one more Autobot to complete the Inferno combiner.... But we know it doesn't , as stated so, Meh....

I'm only interested in the Battle Masters from Hotlink, Megatron, and Ultra Magnus (not the toys themselves), haven't seen any sold separately on eBay yet, but if I find the toys in stores first, I'll just purchase them, and sell the toys separately.

o.supreme wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote: How pissed would you be if you found out this Chromia has a combiner peg?

Actually I'd be ecstatic. I didn't purchase the previous version for that very reason, and I need one more Autobot to complete the Inferno combiner.... But we know it doesn't , as stated so, Meh....

I'm only interested in the Battle Masters from Hotlink, Megatron, and Ultra Magnus (not the toys themselves), haven't seen any sold separately on eBay yet, but if I find the toys in stores first, I'll just purchase them, and sell the toys separately.

You don't want Hotlink? But he's soooo pretty!

I think Hotlink would look better if purple had been his base plastic color. I want a Hotlink in my collection, but I might just get and repaint a Starscream instead of getting the official Hotlink toy, because of how it was executed.

Regarding Chromia not having a combiner peg... She doesn't have one for the same reason that SIEGE toys larger than Battle Masters don't have ball joints except in the neck: The C.O.M.B.A.T. system. The central peghole for a combiner appendage wouldn't have played nice with the pegholes in both feet + ankle rockers required for the C.O.M.B.A.T. gimmick. Without that central peghole, she wouldn't be able to function as a limb, and so a combiner peg would be pointless.

Lore Keeper wrote:You don't want Hotlink? But he's soooo pretty!

For a seeker, he does look cool, but I don't collect them.

For anyone still looking for Ratbat and Rumble, Entertainment Earth says they are restocking the wave 5 micromasters soon. You would have to buy them with Direct Hit and Power Punch, but at least both are at retail price.

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... /hse3420ee

TF-fan kev777 wrote:For anyone still looking for Ratbat and Rumble, Entertainment Earth says they are restocking the wave 5 micromasters soon. You would have to buy them with Direct Hit and Power Punch, but at least both are at retail price.

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... /hse3420ee

AWE YEAH! Thanks for that heads up Kev!!
I wanted and needed both those little sets. Trigger pulled. Crisis averted.

Glad I could help Cobs!

Meanwhile on the pool table...

Crosshairs: So Trenchfoot, um, sorry pal, but this means you'll have to find another partner.



Sad Trenchfoot: Um hey guys, is it okay if I join back up with your crew again? I really suck at aiming myself.
Grand Slam: *shrugs*
G2 Sideswipe: Sure, Hasbro didn't give me my rifle, I'm sure you and I will get along fine.



Not Lionizer Anymore: Um hey fellas, any chance you could use a sword-cat? I also seem to need a new name, any thoughts?
G2 Sideswipe: Sure, I'm all for more weapons. Welcome aboard, I shall call you Frostbiter.



And there resolves the partnering and duplicate names/bots from buying the Netflix Megatron set that I was originally going to pass on, but my lack of impulse control bought anyway yesterday when I saw them in hand.

Trenchfoot is the reason I'm not bothered to get Netflix Megatron, since the only real reason I would want that set is the battlemasters.

I gave one of my six Smashdown to G2 Sideswipe, and it works out really well! regular Swipe has Lionizer

Thanks to a heads up from Seibertronian TF-fan kev777, we have news that the hard to find final wave of War for Cybertron Siege Micromasters will be seeing a restock at Entertainment Earth for retail price!

The final wave of the Siege Micromasters proved to be a hard to find wave, as there were very few sightings and even fewer online listings. This wave consists of the Battle Squad (Direct-hit and Power Punch) and the highly sought after Soundwave Spy Patrol 2 (Ratbat and Rumble). The listing on Entertainment Earth is for both sets, and is listed as $19.99, which is retail price for the wave. You will need to pay shipping, as Entertainment Earth shipping is only free on in-stock orders over $79, but it is far better than paying ebay prices for these guys.

Check out the listing, and let us know if you pre-order these guys and finally secure them below!

Is there any noticeable difference between Trenchfoot and Pinpointer?

Rodimus Prime wrote:Is there any noticeable difference between Trenchfoot and Pinpointer?

Trenchfoot:


Pinpointer (CG render):

So really only the 5mm peg location and the 1 vs 2 barrels for the gun

Plus the head, chest, arms, and legs. Actually, the only thing they share is the colour scheme (and even then Trenchfoot has the white on his torso and yellow on his visor).

Compared to Trenchfoot, Siege Pinpointer is closer to the G1 version with the rounded shoulders, head and colors, despite being a redeco of Firedrive:


Transformers G1 1987 Pinpointer Gallery

Although in the Headmasters Anime, he did have a yellow visor, like Trenchmouth. But the added white ties the latter specifically to Covert Clone (aka G2) Sideswipe.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:So really only the 5mm peg location and the 1 vs 2 barrels for the gun

And the fact that they're two entirely different molds.

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:So really only the 5mm peg location and the 1 vs 2 barrels for the gun

And the fact that they're two entirely different molds.

But in terms of color placement and significant features. I honestly don't pay attention to the differences between the gun dudes except for transformation, and by extent of that the peg location, and the number of barrels.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:So really only the 5mm peg location and the 1 vs 2 barrels for the gun

And the fact that they're two entirely different molds.

But in terms of color placement and significant features. I honestly don't pay attention to the differences between the gun dudes except for transformation, and by extent of that the peg location, and the number of barrels.

There's a difference in transformation as well: Trenchfoot faces down in gun mode, Pinpoint faces up

So, the Firedrive mold is somewhat closer detail-wise.. But it would still need detail kitbashing to properly match, and of course the transformation would need to be reworked (The SIEGE Battlmasters and the Legends Targetmasters they're poor man's versions of ALL transform wrong ).

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:So, the Firedrive mold is somewhat closer detail-wise.. But it would still need detail kitbashing to properly match, and of course the transformation would need to be reworked (The SIEGE Battlmasters and the Legends Targetmasters they're poor man's versions of ALL transform wrong ).

With some I don't really see how it can be done without them easily breaking, losing accessories, or have the barrels not interfere.


Transformers G1 1987 Aimless Gallery


Transformers G1 1987 Blowpipe Gallery


Transformers G1 1987 Caliburst Gallery


Transformers G1 1987 Firebolt Gallery


Transformers G1 1987 Fracas (Nightstick (as Artfire's Targetmaster)) Gallery


Transformers G1 1987 Haywire Gallery


Transformers G1 1987 Nightstick Gallery


Transformers G1 1987 Peacemaker Gallery


Transformers G1 1987 Pinpointer Gallery


Transformers G1 1987 Recoil Gallery


Transformers G1 1987 Spoilsport Gallery

The amount of styles may have played in Hasbro just saying "eh":

#1: Blowpipe, Caliburst
#2: Pinpointer, Recoil
#3: the rest

Look at Universe Nightstick and MP Firebolt, they show ways it can be done. And I know for a fact SIEGE Firebolt could have been done better; I did a very simple kitbash to that end.

Also, "Without losing accessories" isn't a valid argument here because one of the big factors in the SIEGE Battle Masters' divergence was having the ability to pop the barrels off and stick them to the Battle Master's arm. Which to me makes it extra-annoying that they messed up Blowpipe by referencing the Legends version, since his original design partsformed already and would only have needed minor changes .

Today I finally found the Netflix deluxes at my store. I picked up each one and looked at them carefully, and after close in-hand inspection, I must say that I am underwhelmed. This is clearly just a cashgrab by Hasbro to get fans to double- or even triple-dip on some molds. The only one I even considered getting was Scrapface, because combining him with 2 Refraktors would liven up an otherwise somewhat bland-looking camera mode. But Chromia, Mirage, Hound and Sideswipe? Like it's been said, they look like someone played with them in the mud and stuck them back in the box. So I left them on the shelf. I might get Scrapface, because I actually like the colors as well, so even if I don't combine him with Refraktors, he would look good on the shelf. The others? Pass. As usual, if any of you have a hard time finding them, I'd be happy to pick any of them up for you at cost plus shipping.

Rodimus Prime wrote:But Chromia, Mirage, Hound and Sideswipe? Like it's been said, they look like someone played with them in the mud and stuck them back in the box.

Add Ultra Magnus to this. That's my problem with them too. Repaint all you want but here, it's lazy.

Remember though that the line is going to be primarily aimed at those getting into the show, be that kids or new adult collectors who want ease getting things in store rather then back tracking online. I assume the new paint jobs will reflect their look in the show. Hasbro probably looked at things and assumed there would be no Siege stock left on shelves and felt that just re-releasing the old figures might not have played too well with continuing fans. So we got these releases.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:But Chromia, Mirage, Hound and Sideswipe? Like it's been said, they look like someone played with them in the mud and stuck them back in the box.

Add Ultra Magnus to this. That's my problem with them too. Repaint all you want but here, it's lazy.

These figures aren't for us not to mention that they are better painted then the Siege ones even if they have more "battle damage" there was still more effort put into them.

While the paintjobs being good is subjective, I would absolutely not call the Netflix figures Lazy, these are the characters in the show they will not be brand new characters.

Decepticon Mirage and Scrapface exist probably due to reasons in the show.

The "Not for us" argument is a bit moot considering how much more expensive those Netflixformers are compared to normal releases. Like for Megatron, the normal Voyager is 40$can but the Netflix edition is 60$can. A targetmaster is normally 8$can. So that's 12$can in extra charge.

Paying this much is usually not something a parent is willing to pay for little Timmy's toy.

Given the circumstances, they might be more willing to oblige the kids

Mirage is at least a unique purple and pale blue color scheme and could readily be repurposed as a separate character if desired.

-Kanrabat- wrote:The "Not for us" argument is a bit moot considering how much more expensive those Netflixformers are compared to normal releases. Like for Megatron, the normal Voyager is 40$can but the Netflix edition is 60$can. A targetmaster is normally 8$can.

About that. I can see a bit of a gap in your logic there.

-Kanrabat- wrote:A targetmaster

It's this.
Recall that he comes with not one, but TWO Battle Masters.

-Kanrabat- wrote:So that's 12$can in extra charge.

So you're wrong here.

40 + 8 + 8 = 56, so the extra charge only amounts to 4$can. Which is probably accounted for by the metallic paintjob on Megs.

I may be entirely too amused by that clip.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Paying this much is usually not something a parent is willing to pay for little Timmy's toy.

Might still be right about this part though.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Mirage is at least a unique purple and pale blue color scheme and could readily be repurposed as a separate character if desired.

-Kanrabat- wrote:The "Not for us" argument is a bit moot considering how much more expensive those Netflixformers are compared to normal releases. Like for Megatron, the normal Voyager is 40$can but the Netflix edition is 60$can. A targetmaster is normally 8$can.

About that. I can see a bit of a gap in your logic there.

-Kanrabat- wrote:A targetmaster

It's this.
Recall that he comes with not one, but TWO Battle Masters.

-Kanrabat- wrote:So that's 12$can in extra charge.

So you're wrong here.

40 + 8 + 8 = 56, so the extra charge only amounts to 4$can. Which is probably accounted for by the metallic paintjob on Megs.

I may be entirely too amused by that clip.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Paying this much is usually not something a parent is willing to pay for little Timmy's toy.

Might still be right about this part though.

I'm going to start calling you Animated Sentinel.

He doesn't say spoon often enough for you to call him that.

Zelda no need to overkill it with your "you're wrong" posts.

So the overcharges would "only" be 4$. So what? That's still a overcharge. Normally with box set of multiple figures, it's supposed to be a deal. Buying the box set should be more worth it than buying figures separately. For example the rainmaker box set is 100$can normally and the voyagers are 40$can normally. So that's 20$can saved if you buy the set full price. So just imagine if the box set would have gone "full Netflix" and cost 140$can. Not sure if the box set would have as much success as it had.

And no, paint is not an excuse because the SS Damaged Megatron, 07 Megatron, Leader Grimlock and Shockwave were all painted to the gills and were the same price as the rest.

I just think that clip is funny...

I think I'll go back to just posting pictures and papercraft resources... I can at least do those without failing.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Zelda no need to overkill it with your "you're wrong" posts.

So the overcharges would "only" be 4$. So what? That's still a overcharge. Normally with box set of multiple figures, it's supposed to be a deal. Buying the box set should be more worth it than buying figures separately. For example the rainmaker box set is 100$can normally and the voyagers are 40$can normally. So that's 20$can saved if you buy the set full price. So just imagine if the box set would have gone "full Netflix" and cost 140$can. Not sure if the box set would have as much success as it had.

And no, paint is not an excuse because the SS Damaged Megatron, 07 Megatron, Leader Grimlock and Shockwave were all painted to the gills and were the same price as the rest.

I think it's just cuz Hasbro likes rounding to the nearest number ending in 0 a lot of the time when it comes to multipacks like this. Whether that's rounding down, like with the US price for these Netflix Voyagers ($40, when individually it'd be $30+$6+$6=$42) or rounding up (like with the US price for the Siege Amazon Skywarp and Sideswipe/Slamdance packs, which were both $50, when individually they'd be $30+$6+$6+$6=$48 and $20+$20+$6=$46 respectively).

Hasbro just likes these to be rounded to multiples of ten. Sometimes that means we pay less than the sum of its parts, sometimes it means we pay more.

I put together the background pieces that come with the new deluxes, and this is what I got. There are still four unused connection points. Looks like there are more toys on the way!

Lore Keeper wrote:I put together the background pieces that come with the new deluxes, and this is what I got. There are still four unused connection points. Looks like there are more toys on the way!

We already know that there are two waves of these with five more Deluxes coming, we just don't know who. The last five should include two floor pieces, a back wall, and two back corner walls.

Instead of battle damaged repaints I wish they had followed Scrapface's and Mirage's lead and either do repaints or new characters with the other three. I'm thinking Tigertracks, Titan Hunter Chromia (deco only, not in name), and either Detritus, Ironfist, or Rollbar (in Alternators orange as his own characters, maybe a new name). Do we know if Scrapface is even in the cartoon?

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:I put together the background pieces that come with the new deluxes, and this is what I got. There are still four unused connection points. Looks like there are more toys on the way!

We already know that there are two waves of these with five more Deluxes coming, we just don't know who. The last five should include two floor pieces, a back wall, and two back corner walls.

Instead of battle damaged repaints I wish they had followed Scrapface's and Mirage's lead and either do repaints or new characters with the other three. I'm thinking Tigertracks, Titan Hunter Chromia (deco only, not in name), and either Detritus, Ironfist, or Rollbar (in Alternators orange as his own characters, maybe a new name). Do we know if Scrapface is even in the cartoon?

Emerje

Are they guarenteed deluxes? Cause I'd be surprised if we didn't get an Optimus. Detritus would be an amazing figure to see, though if we do see him, I'd want to see the gimmick that Doubledealer has where he can "swap sides". Or give the Mercs a unique faction symbol design

Emerje wrote:Instead of battle damaged repaints I wish they had followed Scrapface's and Mirage's lead and either do repaints or new characters with the other three. I'm thinking Tigertracks, Titan Hunter Chromia (deco only, not in name), and either Detritus, Ironfist, or Rollbar (in Alternators orange as his own characters, maybe a new name). Do we know if Scrapface is even in the cartoon?
Emerje

That literally derails the entire point of the line, this is the Netflix line based off the characters in the show, there is most certainly no Tigertracks or Ironfist in the show itself so why would this line ever use them?

If Decepticon Disguise Mirage (confirmed somewhere that this is only a disguise for Mirage) is in the line then there is a likely purpose to it in the show which probably has to do with the subplot of recruiting Impactor to the Autobots, if Scrapface is in the line over Refraktor who themselves are in the show then I'm sure Scrapface is in the show as well because it wouldn't make sense to make up a whole new character with a new Deco if they had nothing to do with the Netflix show.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:I put together the background pieces that come with the new deluxes, and this is what I got. There are still four unused connection points. Looks like there are more toys on the way!

We already know that there are two waves of these with five more Deluxes coming, we just don't know who. The last five should include two floor pieces, a back wall, and two back corner walls.

Instead of battle damaged repaints I wish they had followed Scrapface's and Mirage's lead and either do repaints or new characters with the other three. I'm thinking Tigertracks, Titan Hunter Chromia (deco only, not in name), and either Detritus, Ironfist, or Rollbar (in Alternators orange as his own characters, maybe a new name). Do we know if Scrapface is even in the cartoon?

Emerje

Are they guarenteed deluxes? Cause I'd be surprised if we didn't get an Optimus. Detritus would be an amazing figure to see, though if we do see him, I'd want to see the gimmick that Doubledealer has where he can "swap sides". Or give the Mercs a unique faction symbol design

The first wave was 1 leader, 2 voyagers and 5 deluxes. The second wave will be 5 deluxes for sure to complete teletran, and likely 2 more voyagers and another leader.