List of Tracks that will Play in Rise of the Beasts includes themes from Bayverse and 86 Movie and lots of R&B
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We also see music cues from past Transformers films including the 86 film and the Bay films. This list is supposdly in the same order the songs will play in the film, which means that the theme song for the film by Tobe Nwigwe, Nas & Jacob Banks, will play in the credits.
"Unicron Theme" from the Motion Picture Transformers: The Movie (1986)
Written by Vincent L. DiCola
"C.R.E.A.M."
Written by Isaac Hayes, David Porter, Gary E. Grice, Clifford Smith, Russell T. Jones, Robert F. Diggs, Dennis David Coles, Jason S. Hunter, Corey Woods & Lamont Hawkins
Performed by Wu-Tang Clan
Courtesy of Loud Records, LLC
By arrangement with Sony Music Entertainment
Contains sample of "As Long As I've Got You"
Performed by The Charmels
Courtesy of Atlantic Recording Corp.
By arrangement with Warner Music Group Film & TV Licensing
"Check The Rhime"
Written by Roger Ball, Malcolm Duncan, Kamaal Fareed, Stephen Ferrone, Alan Gorrie, Alki Shaheed Jones, Owen McIntyre, Minne Ripperton, Richard Rudolph, James Stuart, Malik Taylor & Leon Ware
Performed by A Tribe Called Quest
Courtesy of RCA Records
By arrangement with Sony Music Entertainment
"Anything (Old Skool Radio Version)"
Written by Brian Alexander Morgan, Tyrone Armstrong & Ray Anthony Smith
Performed by SWV
Courtesy of RCA Records
By arrangement with Sony Music Entertainment
Contains sample of "Get Up And Dance" by Freedom
Courtesy of Malaco Records
"Scamba"
Written by Scott Hardy
Performed by Leslie Pintchik
Courtesy of Leslie Pintchik
License by Arrangement with Fine Gold Music
"Represent"
Written by Christopher E. Martin & Nasir Jones
Performed by Nas
Courtesy of Columbia Records
By arrangement with Sony Music Entertainment
"Rebirth of Slick (Cool Like Dat) – Agami Music Version"
Written by Ishmael R. Butler & Mary Ann Vieira
Performed by Digable Planets
Courtesy of Capitol Records
Under license from Universal Music Enterprises
"The Choice Is Yours"
Written by Andres Titus, William K. McLean, Ben Cauley, James Alexander, Allen Alvoid, Jr. Jones & Johnny Hammond
Performed by Black Sheep
Courtesy of Island Records
Under license from Universal Music Enterprises
"Groove Thang"
Written by Shereelynn Sarah Brown, Keir Lamont Gist, Charles C. Mims, Renée Neufville,
Patrice L. Rushen & Fred Douglas Washington
"Waterfalls"
Written by Patrick Brown, Marquez Ethridge, Raymon Ameer Murray, Rico Wade & Lisa Nicole Lopes
"Carnaval de Qatqa"
Traditional
"Huaylarsh"
Traditional
"Saqraz de Paucartambo Cusco"
Traditional
"Whoomp There It Is"
Written by Stephen Gibson & Cecil Lavel Glenn
"Mama Said Knock You Out (Sam Wilkes Remix)"
Written by Gregory E. Jacobs, James Todd Smith, Sylvester Stewart, Marlon Lu'Ree Williams, James Louis McCants, Leroy McCants, William Earl Collins, George Clinton, Jr. & Walter Morrison
Performed by LL Cool J
Courtesy of Def Jam Recordings under license from Universal Music Enterprises
"Arrival to Earth" from the Motion Picture Transformers (2007)
Written by Steve Jablonsky
"No Sacrifice, No Victory" from the Motion Picture Transformers (2007)
Written by Steve Jablonsky
"Ending" from the Motion Picture Transformers: The Last Knight (2017)
Written by Steve Jablonsky
"Hypnotize"
Written by Randy Badazz Alpert, Deric Michael Angeletti, Andy W. Armer, Sean J. Combs, Ronald Anthony Lawrence & Christopher Wallace
Performed by Notorious B.I.G.
Courtesy of Bad Boy Records/Atlantic Recording Corp.
By arrangement with Warner Music Group Film & TV Licensing
"On My Soul"
Written by Tobe Nwigwe, Nasir Jones & Jacob Banks
Produced by The Good Stewards (Tobe Nwigwe, Nic Humes , Nick Baker)
Performed by Tobe Nwigwe, Nas & Jacob Banks
Courtesy of Tobe Nwigwe, LLC, Mass Appeal, Paramount Music & Nobody Records
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Posted by Cheesinator on May 24th, 2023 @ 12:19pm CDT
noctorro wrote:Now being realistic, I heard from a couple of directions that the movie has that thick modern layer of wokeness. People aren't eating that anymore and there is already a shift back to normal/good. But since delays that virus could still be in this movie.
Tbh I've seen a lot of, uh, interesting takes on this topic but this is the first time I've seen inclusion of non-white people in a movie as being a virus.
Kinda jarring to see hateful rhetoric like that in a forum about transforming robots, but oh well.
Posted by griftimus prime on May 24th, 2023 @ 12:45pm CDT
Posted by First-Aid on May 24th, 2023 @ 12:51pm CDT
Cheesinator wrote:Arrival To Earth and Unicron themes will be very cool to hear! I was hoping for the original Bayverse Decepticon theme as well, but see how this wouldn't be the movie for that (if they are indeed ever bringing it back).noctorro wrote:Now being realistic, I heard from a couple of directions that the movie has that thick modern layer of wokeness. People aren't eating that anymore and there is already a shift back to normal/good. But since delays that virus could still be in this movie.
Tbh I've seen a lot of, uh, interesting takes on this topic but this is the first time I've seen inclusion of non-white people in a movie as being a virus.
Kinda jarring to see hateful rhetoric like that in a forum about transforming robots, but oh well.
He worded it horribly but I suspect what he means is that the stereotypical "Wokeness" is significant enough that it becomes the story. Nothing wrong with equality, race,, etc. Honestly, I'm not homophobic, racist, etc, I just don't care about it UNLESS it overrides the story. I think his worry is that race will BECOME the story and not the Transformers. It could be an element, but it shouldn't BE the story. Culture/race/etc could be the backdrop/setting, but in the case of ROTB it shouldn't overshadow the fact that there are giant f--king robots trying to blow the snot out of each other.
Hopefully I'm wording it better and it makes more sense. Please let me know if I'm not. It's really hard to explain this...it's like walking on eggshells. And I'm generally pretty crappy at explaining things that aren't related to medicine...
Posted by Cheesinator on May 24th, 2023 @ 1:48pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:Cheesinator wrote:noctorro wrote:Now being realistic, I heard from a couple of directions that the movie has that thick modern layer of wokeness. People aren't eating that anymore and there is already a shift back to normal/good. But since delays that virus could still be in this movie.
Tbh I've seen a lot of, uh, interesting takes on this topic but this is the first time I've seen inclusion of non-white people in a movie as being a virus.
Kinda jarring to see hateful rhetoric like that in a forum about transforming robots, but oh well.
He worded it horribly but I suspect what he means is that the stereotypical "Wokeness" is significant enough that it becomes the story. Nothing wrong with equality, race,, etc. Honestly, I'm not homophobic, racist, etc, I just don't care about it UNLESS it overrides the story. I think his worry is that race will BECOME the story and not the Transformers. It could be an element, but it shouldn't BE the story. Culture/race/etc could be the backdrop/setting, but in the case of ROTB it shouldn't overshadow the fact that there are giant f--king robots trying to blow the snot out of each other.
Hopefully I'm wording it better and it makes more sense. Please let me know if I'm not. It's really hard to explain this...it's like walking on eggshells. And I'm generally pretty crappy at explaining things that aren't related to medicine...
That does make more sense, but (unless I'm misunderstanding) I don't get how the issue could be wokeness itself, rather than the same issue *every* live action Transformers movies has had wherein the humans take up the bulk of the screentime and provide the skeleton of the story that the Transformer-related setpieces are placed around.
Whether it's LeBouf fumbling through his romances and quirky family, Wahlberg dysfunction with his daughter or being an Arthurian knight or something (I barely paid attention to TLK), or Hailee Steinfeld dealing with the loss of her dad...the core story of the movies has always heavily involved humans and their drama, with the big robot fights being almost totally unrelated. So it seems a bit odd if someone only has a major issue with that now when the only difference seems to be that the human drama is about race (and as far as we know, that isn't even the case in ROTB; we just know the main characters are nonwhite and will do nonwhite things).
(All that said, I'd also prefer human action is kept to a minimum if it means more robot interactions)
Posted by Kamijou Touma on May 24th, 2023 @ 2:32pm CDT
Posted by First-Aid on May 24th, 2023 @ 2:45pm CDT
Cheesinator wrote:First-Aid wrote:Cheesinator wrote:noctorro wrote:Now being realistic, I heard from a couple of directions that the movie has that thick modern layer of wokeness. People aren't eating that anymore and there is already a shift back to normal/good. But since delays that virus could still be in this movie.
Tbh I've seen a lot of, uh, interesting takes on this topic but this is the first time I've seen inclusion of non-white people in a movie as being a virus.
Kinda jarring to see hateful rhetoric like that in a forum about transforming robots, but oh well.
He worded it horribly but I suspect what he means is that the stereotypical "Wokeness" is significant enough that it becomes the story. Nothing wrong with equality, race,, etc. Honestly, I'm not homophobic, racist, etc, I just don't care about it UNLESS it overrides the story. I think his worry is that race will BECOME the story and not the Transformers. It could be an element, but it shouldn't BE the story. Culture/race/etc could be the backdrop/setting, but in the case of ROTB it shouldn't overshadow the fact that there are giant f--king robots trying to blow the snot out of each other.
Hopefully I'm wording it better and it makes more sense. Please let me know if I'm not. It's really hard to explain this...it's like walking on eggshells. And I'm generally pretty crappy at explaining things that aren't related to medicine...
That does make more sense, but (unless I'm misunderstanding) I don't get how the issue could be wokeness itself, rather than the same issue *every* live action Transformers movies has had wherein the humans take up the bulk of the screentime and provide the skeleton of the story that the Transformer-related setpieces are placed around.
Whether it's LeBouf fumbling through his romances and quirky family, Wahlberg dysfunction with his daughter or being an Arthurian knight or something (I barely paid attention to TLK), or Hailee Steinfeld dealing with the loss of her dad...the core story of the movies has always heavily involved humans and their drama, with the big robot fights being almost totally unrelated. So it seems a bit odd if someone only has a major issue with that now when the only difference seems to be that the human drama is about race (and as far as we know, that isn't even the case in ROTB; we just know the main characters are nonwhite and will do nonwhite things).
(All that said, I'd also prefer human action is kept to a minimum if it means more robot interactions)
I agree. It's confusing. The drama is there, yes, and that has always been the problem with the live actions movies.
Personally, the grammar-jerk in me hates the words homophobia, Islamophobia, etc because of, you know, the meaning of phobia being "clinically afraid or terrified of". Like arachnophobia. Or anthrophobia. Or Aquaphobia. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT! READ THE DICTIONARY! (and yes I know the meaning have been amended, but that's because of masses of ignorant people USING THE WORD WRONG! GRAMMAR, PEOPLE!!!) #wordcrimes #petpeeve
I'm more a fan of apatheaia.
Posted by william-james88 on May 24th, 2023 @ 3:05pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:He worded it horribly but I suspect what he means is that the stereotypical "Wokeness" is significant enough that it becomes the story.
The story is about the terrorcons trying to get a mcguffin to bring unicron to earth, and the autobots and maximals teaming up to stop them.
The only thing "woke" about the film is that this time it stars black and latino people as the main human characters, rather than white ones. We will see their struggles, just as we saw the struggles of past white protagonists. If that's enough to be considered woke than that tells me that the word "woke" has lost all meaning. And yes, wording it that way is a really easy way to stick out in a very unfavourable fashion.
Posted by First-Aid on May 24th, 2023 @ 3:12pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:The only thing "woke" about the film is that this time it stars black and latino people as the main human characters, rather than white ones. We will see their struggles, just as we saw the struggles of past white protagonists.
True. The cast makes sense based on the primary location of the movie, just like the last one did.
Posted by Cheesinator on May 24th, 2023 @ 3:20pm CDT
Kamijou Touma wrote:The music of the TF live action movies makes me appreciate the 86 movie music all the more. The music is just awful.
IMO, this is just a symptom of bias due to the movies themselves. We know full well a lot of people (on here especially) are heavily biased towards the '86 movie and heavily biased against anything related to the live action movie. I personally think the scores for several of the live action movies are excellent (Steve Jablonsky is da man), and dismissing them just because you dislike the movie is irrational.
And 'What I've Done' was unironically my jam back when the first live action movie came out.
william-james88 wrote:First-Aid wrote:He worded it horribly but I suspect what he means is that the stereotypical "Wokeness" is significant enough that it becomes the story.
The only thing "woke" about the film is that this time it stars black and latino people as the main human characters, rather than white ones. We will see their struggles, just as we saw the struggles of past white protagonists. If that's enough to be considered woke than that tells me that the word "woke" has lost all meaning.
Exactly. Maybe all of the trailers are somehow deeply misleading with Unicron and the Terrorcons actually being very minor, and the big battle scenes we see are actually all fought over human race issues...but I seriously doubt that, and nothing so far has indicated that to be the case. We know so little about the human plot at the moment, that anyone using 'woke' as a serious criticism is exposing themselves pretty blatantly.
Posted by First-Aid on May 24th, 2023 @ 3:54pm CDT
Cheesinator wrote: We know so little about the human plot at the moment, that anyone using 'woke' as a serious criticism is exposing themselves pretty blatantly.
Not necessarily. Many people are dealing with a perceived overdose of it right now. It could be paranoia that it's going to affect the plot. It may simply be paranoia. I freely admit though that at some point TV and movies became more about "teaching lessons" on things that most people already know than about the escape from reality or the art; it detracts from the fun of the movie/show.
Posted by Burn on May 24th, 2023 @ 5:14pm CDT
Posted by Cheesinator on May 24th, 2023 @ 5:23pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:Cheesinator wrote: We know so little about the human plot at the moment, that anyone using 'woke' as a serious criticism is exposing themselves pretty blatantly.
Not necessarily. Many people are dealing with a perceived overdose of it right now. It could be paranoia that it's going to affect the plot. It may simply be paranoia. I freely admit though that at some point TV and movies became more about "teaching lessons" on things that most people already know than about the escape from reality or the art; it detracts from the fun of the movie/show.
But isn't that exactly the point? Literally all we know at the moment is that the leads will be nonwhite, and if that alone makes you "paranoid" that the film is going to be "woke" (and that being woke is a bad thing), it says something about you rather than woke-ism.
Also, TV/movies have *always* been about teaching lessons. Basic morality stuff like good vs bad and right vs wrong have permeated most media (especially children's media, ESPECIALLY heroes vs villains stuff like Transformers) since their inception. Again, the fact that people only get angry when the lesson being taught might be "don't hate other races" is reflective of them rather than any perceived change in media. You guys can't pretend that basic lessons in morality being in the shows/movies is the thing you have a problem with.
Hell, Transformers itself has been portraying the Decepticons as bad guys purely on the basis that they view other races as lesser for years.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 24th, 2023 @ 5:23pm CDT
Burn wrote:I honestly don't get why having people of different ethnicities in leading roles = wokeness. It's just plain **** stupid.
The "wokeness" is turning this into something "extraordinary", "groundbreaking", "so stunning", "so brave", when it's none of the above.
The woke will go full "LOOK, LOOK, I CAST COLORED PEOPLE IN MY THING!" with religious fervor.
It's done in a way to appear virtuous. Like a tartuffe bragging his piousness.
THAT'S the "woke".
There's tons of movies starring non-white people all the time and none make a fuss about it. But the woke will point the mundane as something "incredible" just to get some virtue points.
The woke will point that the sun appear in their movie as something "brave and groundbreaking". Then we will point and laugh at this. It won't make us "anti-sun."
That's what we're saying in a more or less awkward fashion.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 24th, 2023 @ 5:29pm CDT
It might be when the director himself stated that "this film will be for black and brown people." That's a quote from 1 of the early pages of this thread. As in, whites f**k off. At least he has the backbone to come out and say it outright that that's the agenda here. The music selection just solidifies it even more.Burn wrote:I honestly don't get why having people of different ethnicities in leading roles = wokeness. It's just plain **** stupid.
Previously I stated that the Transformers story itself might suffer for it (much like it did in previous films), but with all the details released already, the movie might be worth a watch on streaming sometime.
Posted by Cheesinator on May 24th, 2023 @ 5:34pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:It might be when the director himself stated that "this film will be for black and brown people." That's a quote from 1 of the early pages of this thread. As in, whites f**k off. At least he has the backbone to come out and say it outright that that's the agenda here. The music selection just solidifies it even more.
Previously I stated that the Transformers story itself might suffer for it (much like it did in previous films), but with all the details released already, the movie might be worth a watch on streaming sometime.
Simply portraying cultures of black and brown people is not really the same as "whites fuck off". In the same way portraying white families (and their cultures) in the previous movies was not a "POC fuck off".
Just to be clear, would you prefer that all films have only (or at least predominantly) white casts? And any deviance would be 'woke'?
-Kanrabat- wrote:Burn wrote:I honestly don't get why having people of different ethnicities in leading roles = wokeness. It's just plain **** stupid.
The "wokeness" is turning this into something "extraordinary", "groundbreaking", "so stunning", "so brave", when it's none of the above.
The woke will go full "LOOK, LOOK, I CAST COLORED PEOPLE IN MY THING!" with religious fervor.
Oof, bringing religious fervor into it and saying that it's the woke side that are guilty of it. That seems very tone-deaf, especially these days.
Also, deeply ironic way of describing 'woke' when no one in this thread is saying anything about nonwhite people being cast in the movie as some great thing, but you and others apparently have some major issue with it. Like, why blame the (nonexistent in this thread) "woke people"? Just say what you really feel about the casting and be up front about it, at least.
Posted by zko on May 24th, 2023 @ 5:39pm CDT
Posted by First-Aid on May 24th, 2023 @ 5:46pm CDT
Unicron theme. I called it. That was me.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 24th, 2023 @ 5:47pm CDT
Cheesinator wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Burn wrote:I honestly don't get why having people of different ethnicities in leading roles = wokeness. It's just plain **** stupid.
The "wokeness" is turning this into something "extraordinary", "groundbreaking", "so stunning", "so brave", when it's none of the above.
The woke will go full "LOOK, LOOK, I CAST COLORED PEOPLE IN MY THING!" with religious fervor.
Oof, bringing religious fervor into it and saying that it's the woke side that are guilty of it. That seems very tone-deaf, especially these days.
Also, deeply ironic way of describing 'woke' when no one in this thread is saying anything about nonwhite people being cast in the movie as some great thing, but you and others apparently have some major issue with it. Like, why blame the (nonexistent in this thread) "woke people"? Just say what you really feel about the casting and be up front about it, at least.
Have you read the interviews of that director?
He's race-baiting like there's no tomorrow. THAT'S "wokeness". The woke will defend any positions, as long that it follow the ALGORITHM of what is "virtuous" to say. It's a religion of chaos with ever changing rules.
The proof is if any woman speak against feminism, any gay person speak against the overreach of the LGBT "community", or any black people speak against race-grifting and/or the victimhood mentality, they all get "excommunicated" by their "friends".
It's very easy to call us "racist" or any "ism" when we disagree with your ideology. It's the same with a hardcore Christian who see the "devil" everywhere.
Dare to seek out more information about what you believe in. You'll see.
Or just stay as you are. The woke "goal posts" will move and suddenly, you'll "sin" by believing the same thing you always believed in. Then it will be your turn to be called a "ism" and you'll not even know why.
Also, what I TRULY feel about the casting?
I
Do
NOT
CARE.
I never cared about Hollywood actors appart my classics from my childhood like Arnie, Tome Select, Danny DeVito, and more. Those young and new actors? I know none nor care about them since at least 30 years.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 24th, 2023 @ 5:50pm CDT
It might as well be when a creator of the presentation at hand outright states that the setting and story is done specifically due to the involvement of those cultures.Cheesinator wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:It might be when the director himself stated that "this film will be for black and brown people." That's a quote from 1 of the early pages of this thread. As in, whites f**k off. At least he has the backbone to come out and say it outright that that's the agenda here. The music selection just solidifies it even more.
Previously I stated that the Transformers story itself might suffer for it (much like it did in previous films), but with all the details released already, the movie might be worth a watch on streaming sometime.
Simply portraying cultures of black and brown people is not really the same as "whites **** off". In the same way portraying white families (and their cultures) in the previous movies was not a "POC **** off".
Of course not. I enjoy a lot of movies and TV shows that have majority non-white casts. But when a story is done for the purpose of appealing only to a select segment of the population, at the expense of previously established stories and characters, that is wrong.Just to be clear, would you prefer that all films have only (or at least predominantly) white casts? And any deviance would be 'woke'?
Posted by william-james88 on May 24th, 2023 @ 5:53pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:Cheesinator wrote: We know so little about the human plot at the moment, that anyone using 'woke' as a serious criticism is exposing themselves pretty blatantly.
Not necessarily. Many people are dealing with a perceived overdose of it right now. It could be paranoia that it's going to affect the plot. It may simply be paranoia. I freely admit though that at some point TV and movies became more about "teaching lessons" on things that most people already know than about the escape from reality or the art; it detracts from the fun of the movie/show.
Stories have always been about teaching lessons. The change between then and now is the media and political coverage. People are simply being manipulated by the media to create an us vs them scenario to boost paranoia, consumerism, and allegiance to a certain party or idealogy and it spreads to every facet of entertainment. It's more prominant in the US due to the 2 party system, so the binary nature of political issues.
You see that less in other countries. People just need to think for themselves.
Posted by Cheesinator on May 24th, 2023 @ 5:55pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:It might as well be when a creator of the presentation at hand outright states that the setting and story is done specifically due to the involvement of those cultures.Cheesinator wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:It might be when the director himself stated that "this film will be for black and brown people." That's a quote from 1 of the early pages of this thread. As in, whites f**k off. At least he has the backbone to come out and say it outright that that's the agenda here. The music selection just solidifies it even more.
Previously I stated that the Transformers story itself might suffer for it (much like it did in previous films), but with all the details released already, the movie might be worth a watch on streaming sometime.
Simply portraying cultures of black and brown people is not really the same as "whites **** off". In the same way portraying white families (and their cultures) in the previous movies was not a "POC **** off".Of course not. I enjoy a lot of movies and TV shows that have majority non-white casts. But when a story is done for the purpose of appealing only to a select segment of the population, at the expense of previously established stories and characters, that is wrong.Just to be clear, would you prefer that all films have only (or at least predominantly) white casts? And any deviance would be 'woke'?
How is this gearing up to be any different to the predominantly white areas/casts we saw in previous films? ROTB is apparently gonna feature areas with different demographics. There are a lot of those in America (and the rest of the world).
I'll annoyed too if they do something weird and portray the whole country/planet as nonwhite, but showing a black kid have a black family and live in a predominantly black neighbourhood is really no different to anything we've seen before in Transformers. Except you guys had no issues with it then.
And...we still have zero evidence any of this will effect the Transformers plot (same as the prior movies)
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Have you read the interviews of that director?
He's race-baiting like there's no tomorrow. THAT'S "wokeness". The woke will defend any positions, as long that it follow the ALGORITHM of what is "virtuous" to say. It's a religion of chaos with ever changing rules.
The proof is if any woman speak against feminism, any gay person speak against the overreach of the LGBT "community", or any black people speak against race-grifting and/or the victimhood mentality, they all get "excommunicated" by their "friends".
It's very easy to call us "racist" or any "ism" when we disagree with your ideology. It's the same with a hardcore Christian who see the "devil" everywhere.
Dare to seek out more information about what you believe in. You'll see.
Or just stay as you are. The woke "goal posts" will move and suddenly, you'll "sin" by believing the same thing you always believed in. Then it will be your turn to be called a "ism" and you'll not even know why.
Look man, you hate wokeism and that's fine (or at least, has nothing to do with Transformers). As long as you're not hurting anyone, it's all good and there's really no need to unpack it here.
Until we know anything more about the movie other than 'the leads are nonwhite', this all seems a little unnecessary though.
I'll be annoyed too if the entire plot of the movie is about racial struggles between humans...but I really, really do not see Unicron and the Terrorcons factoring into that.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 24th, 2023 @ 6:01pm CDT
Cheesinator wrote:Look man, you hate wokeism and that's fine (or at least, has nothing to do with Transformers). As long as you're not hurting anyone, it's all good and there's really no need to unpack it here.
Until we know anything more about the movie other than 'the leads are nonwhite', this all seems a little unnecessary though.
I'll be annoyed too if the entire plot of the movie is about racial struggles between humans...but I really, really do not see Unicron and the Terrorcons factoring into that.
The only bad thing here is the director appear to be quite the racist in his interviews.
I just hope that it will not be reflected into the movie. (Like that "white privilege line in The Batman".
Artists can be assh0les all they want. Their assh0lery will be called out.
But in the end, if they make a good product, I'll not stop myself from enjoying it.
¯\_( ͡°ヮ ͡°)_/¯
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 24th, 2023 @ 6:12pm CDT
Because Michael Bay didn't come out and say "this movie will be for whites" before any of the movies he directed. Neither did Travis Knight before Bumblebee, which had a non-white main character as well. Steven Caple should have taken a clue from them and kept his racist trap shut.Cheesinator wrote:How is this gearing up to be any different to the predominantly white areas/casts we saw in previous films? ROTB is apparently gonna feature areas with different demographics. There are a lot of those in America (and the rest of the world).
I don't have the problem with the cast itself. My problem is with the reason for the casting, which the director himself admitted to. The actors are in it because they're minorities, not because they might be good actors. The human parts of the film are set in minority-dominated settings, not because Transformers might interact with them the same as other cultures, which is perfectly plausible, but because of the fact that they are minority-dominated settings. Do you understand the difference?I'll annoyed too if they do something weird and portray the whole country/planet as nonwhite, but showing a black kid have a black family and live in a predominantly black neighbourhood is really no different to anything we've seen before in Transformers. Except you guys had no issues with it then.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 24th, 2023 @ 8:56pm CDT
You have all been warned, and I am tired of you ignoring the site and staff directives and going off topic and polluting the actual movie discussion.
The very next post off topic from the actual movie content, for example the very next post that has the word "woke" in it in any capacity, will result in immediate suspensions.
Stay. On. Topic.
Posted by william-james88 on May 24th, 2023 @ 10:30pm CDT
1. From what I was told, there is nothing tieing it with the Bay movies, plot wise, but there is also nothing in preventing it from tieing in later. If they want to tie it in with some and ignore TLK, for instance, they can and will. So it is still not a reboot as of yet, Paramount is not willing to commit to anything remotely close to that. It's just another adventure in this live action franchise.
2. This film will have more focus on the bots as characters than ever before. There will be familial relationships explored among the human cast, and there will be a focus on it, something that has not been highlighted in the trailers, but there will still be more emphasis on the bots than before. They will not be secondary characters to the human cast, as they were in the past.
Honestly, that alone elevates the film for me. Not to be harsh, but while I do think some films were fine (the first movie, for instance, is a fine film, well executed, and holds up), none of these films actually felt like Transformers movies. They felt more like films with transformers in them. Bumblebee got super close to being a step above that, though, so I'm hyped that this film is aiming to go beyond this personal threshold of mine.
Posted by william-james88 on May 24th, 2023 @ 10:56pm CDT
Of course, please remember that it is customary for early reactions to be disproportionally positive since the people who saw it are "influencers" who did not pay to watch it and are thus incentivized to be as positive as possible to be given such privilege again.
Here are some early reactions:
PacManNR7: Transformers RiseOfTheBeasts makes good use of the animated movie's storyline and integrates the Maximals and Terrorcons to good effect. Stakes are high and Scourge is a terrifying and powerful villain. Action-packed with a lot of heart (albeit with some cheese on top).
TheEricGoldman: Transformers RiseOfTheBeasts is really fun. It’s actually quite funny and the action is strong. I did find my eyes glazing over when they’d talk about this movie’s special object (this series sure loves those) but way better than Bay’s movies if not quite Bumblebee level.
GermainLussier: Totally dug Transformers RiseOfTheBeasts. It’s got some issues in the middle but it starts strong, has fantastic 90s hip hop, makes great use of the humans & the 3rd act is a blast. Plus I damn near jumped out of my seat at the end. Right up there with the 1st Bay & Bumblebee.
BrandonDavisBD: Transformers RiseOfTheBeasts plays like the ultimate Saturday morning cartoon.
Some dope Transformers action. Anthony Ramos & Pete Davidson are great, even if some of the dialogue is a little clunky. It’s a lean, fun movie and a promising start to something exciting.
VillainousComix: Transformers RiseOfTheBeasts delivers one of the better and more coherent installments in the franchise. They clearly understood what worked so well with 2018’s Bumblebee as ROTB has heart and the human characters are more likable. Mirage will walk away as the fan favorite.
joedeckelmeier: Transformers RiseOfTheBeasts is a lot of fun! Anthony Ramos carries the movie and Pete Davidson steals every scene as Mirage. The ending blew my mind and the music in the film is fire
ErikDavis: The new Transformers movie is pretty solid! LOVE the Brooklyn setting - Maximals & Scourge add a new spin & the action pops, especially the NY scenes. Mirage steals the show, but the true star is the absolute best soundtrack full of early ‘90s hip-hop hits. This ‘90s kid had fun.
MrControversy83: Transformers RiseOfTheBeasts was a blast! The Beast Wars crew finally shows up in what's arguably the BEST Transformers movie in the run. There's a lot of heart, humor, and Brooklyn pride in here; and it all makes for throwback popcorn fun.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 25th, 2023 @ 12:05am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 25th, 2023 @ 12:22am CDT
Part of the marketing.Sabrblade wrote:Never knew there were so many fans of Brooklyn.
Posted by cloudballoon on May 25th, 2023 @ 2:08am CDT
With its unique ability, I don't mind this iteration of Mirage is here to stay for a few more movies, better comic relief than Bay's toilet humors.
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on May 25th, 2023 @ 6:28am CDT
Hearing some of Jablonsky’s score again is an awesome bonus!
Posted by Seibertron on May 25th, 2023 @ 9:54am CDT
Monro Announces Partnership with "Transformers: Rise of the Beasts"
Transformers-themed service packages and poster giveaways set to hit Monro stores on May 22.
ROCHESTER, NY (May 22, 2023) - Monro, Inc. (Nasdaq: MNRO), one of the largest independent auto service and tire dealers in the United States, announces its partnership with Paramount Pictures’ and Hasbro’s upcoming film, Transformers: Rise of the Beasts. The movie, part of the popular Transformers franchise, will be released only in theatres on June 9, 2023.
"At Monro, we know that generations of fans and families have connected with, and love, the Transformers universe," said Ben Montano, senior director of marketing and merchandising. "We are thrilled to partner with this blockbuster film and look forward to welcoming fans to the Transformers branded experience in our 1,300 stores."
The Transformers: Rise of the Beasts partnership represents one of the most exciting and anticipated collaborations in Monro’s six-decade history. From May 22 through June 24, guests visiting Monro’s participating stores will have the opportunity to scan on Snapchat to convert their car, collect an official Transformers: Rise of the Beasts movie poster, and take pictures next to movie character displays.
Inspired by the celebrated characters in the film, Monro also plans to offer movie-themed service packages such as "Power is Primal Oil Change" and "Roll Out Wheels Deal," powered by Yokohama. Monro’s family of retail brands will participate in the promotion, including Monro Auto Service and Tire Centers, Tire Choice Auto Service Centers, Mr. Tire Auto Service Centers, Ken Towery’s Tire & AutoCare, Tire Warehouse Tires for Less, Tire Barn, and Car-X Tire & Auto.
To learn about Monro’s partnership efforts with Transformers: Rise of the Beast, visit https://corporate.monro.com. For more information about the movie, Transformers: Rise of the Beasts, visit http://www.transformersmovie.com.
About Monro, Inc.
Monro, Inc. (NASDAQ: MNRO) is one of the United States’ leading automotive service and tire providers, delivering best-in-class auto care to communities across the country. With a growing market share and a focus on sustainable growth, the company generated approximately $1.4 billion in sales in fiscal 2022. It continues to expand its national presence through strategic acquisitions and by opening newly constructed stores. Across more than 1,300 stores and 9,000 service bays nationwide, Monro offers customers the professionalism and high-quality service they expect from a national retailer, with the convenience and trust of a neighborhood garage. Monro’s highly trained teammates and certified technicians bring together hands-on experience and state-of-the-art technology to diagnose and address customers’ automotive needs to get them safely back on the road. For more information, visit https://corporate.monro.com and https://corporate.monro.com/news/news-details/2023/Monro-Announces-Partnership-with-Transformers-Rise-of-the-Beasts/default.aspx for further information.
About Transformers: Rise of the Beasts
Returning to the action and spectacle that have captured moviegoers around the world, Transformers: Rise of the Beasts will take audiences on a ‘90s globetrotting adventure with the Autobots and introduce a whole new breed of Transformer – the Maximals – to the existing battle on earth between Autobots and Decepticons. Directed by Steven Caple Jr. and starring Anthony Ramos and Dominique Fishback, the film arrives in theatres June 9, 2023.
About Paramount Pictures Corporation
Paramount Global (NASDAQ: PARA, PARAA) is a leading global media and entertainment company that creates premium content and experiences for audiences worldwide. Driven by iconic studios, networks and streaming services, Paramount’s portfolio of consumer brands includes CBS, Showtime Networks, Paramount Pictures, Nickelodeon, MTV, Comedy Central, BET, Paramount+, Pluto TV and Simon & Schuster, among others. Paramount delivers the largest share of the U.S. television audience and boasts one of the industry’s most important and extensive libraries of TV and film titles. In addition to offering innovative streaming services and digital video products, the company provides powerful capabilities in production, distribution and advertising solutions. For more information about Paramount, please visit https://www.paramount.com and follow @ParamountCo on social platforms.
Posted by Cheesinator on May 25th, 2023 @ 11:57am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Never knew there were so many fans of Brooklyn.
People from or around Brooklyn tend to be big fans of it (in my experience, at least). New Yorkers in general tend to be pretty proud of anything overtly NY based too (not to same extent as people from Philadelphia, but still...).
I know several people who'll be swayed to see this movie due to the emphasis on the Brooklyn setting.
Posted by william-james88 on May 25th, 2023 @ 1:08pm CDT
Enjoy!
Posted by TulioDude on May 25th, 2023 @ 4:21pm CDT
The hype for the film is growing in as me as the release date gets closer.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 25th, 2023 @ 4:44pm CDT
Cheesinator wrote:This looks like promising feedback. Comparisons to TF1 and Bumblebee are also very good, as IMO those are the only movies where the human stuff actually blended with the TF action well.Sabrblade wrote:Never knew there were so many fans of Brooklyn.
People from or around Brooklyn tend to be big fans of it (in my experience, at least). New Yorkers in general tend to be pretty proud of anything overtly NY based too (not to same extent as people from Philadelphia, but still...).
I know several people who'll be swayed to see this movie due to the emphasis on the Brooklyn setting.
YO QUEENS REPRESENT!!!!!!
Posted by TulioDude on May 25th, 2023 @ 7:44pm CDT
https://tformers.com/daily-prime-optimu ... /news.html
Posted by Deathsanras on May 26th, 2023 @ 6:57am CDT
Posted by First-Aid on May 26th, 2023 @ 10:44am CDT
Deathsanras wrote:Okay, so if it doesn't do well, it's the shaman's fault?
Do you really want to try and blame a shaman? That's a sure fire way to get cursed by evil flesh-eating voodoo dolls...
Posted by william-james88 on May 26th, 2023 @ 1:43pm CDT
TulioDude wrote:I searched the news tab to see if this was posted before, Steven Caple Jr. has said that Optimus Prime's face in this movie is modeled after Peter Cullen likeness.
https://tformers.com/daily-prime-optimu ... /news.html
Yeah, it's a fun fact, but I neve got around to do it as a full on news story, working on another news story now, spoilers galore, so if you guys want no spoilers, stay away.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 26th, 2023 @ 1:44pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:TulioDude wrote:I searched the news tab to see if this was posted before, Steven Caple Jr. has said that Optimus Prime's face in this movie is modeled after Peter Cullen likeness.
https://tformers.com/daily-prime-optimu ... /news.html
Yeah, it's a fun fact, but I neve got around to do it as a full on news story, working on another news story now, spoilers galore, so if you guys want no spoilers, stay away.
well then ya better not include the spoilers in the title of the news article...
Posted by william-james88 on May 26th, 2023 @ 1:58pm CDT
- There are no Decepticons in the film. The scene of Optimus vs a Decepticon in Brooklyn was removed from the final film. So for all those who doubted how they could fit all those factions in
- The film is officially said to not be a reboot. While it can be said to be a sequel to Bumblebee or a prequel to the Bay films, or even a stand alone film, the panel wanted to make it clear that this is not a reboot.
- Lorenzo di Bonaventura gives a really reductive take on Ironhide. Not a spoiler, but something I wanted to highlight because it really stirred me the wrong way.
- The end credit scene is a hint to a future crossover between Transformers and GI Joe
- There was a planned scene for Charlie, from the Bumblebee movie, to appear but it did not happen. She could be back for a future installment.
Posted by TulioDude on May 26th, 2023 @ 2:12pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:william-james88 wrote:TulioDude wrote:I searched the news tab to see if this was posted before, Steven Caple Jr. has said that Optimus Prime's face in this movie is modeled after Peter Cullen likeness.
https://tformers.com/daily-prime-optimu ... /news.html
Yeah, it's a fun fact, but I neve got around to do it as a full on news story, working on another news story now, spoilers galore, so if you guys want no spoilers, stay away.
well then ya better not include the spoilers in the title of the news article...
I will be leaving this thread then, until I see the movie.
Posted by william-james88 on May 26th, 2023 @ 2:31pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:william-james88 wrote:TulioDude wrote:I searched the news tab to see if this was posted before, Steven Caple Jr. has said that Optimus Prime's face in this movie is modeled after Peter Cullen likeness.
https://tformers.com/daily-prime-optimu ... /news.html
Yeah, it's a fun fact, but I neve got around to do it as a full on news story, working on another news story now, spoilers galore, so if you guys want no spoilers, stay away.
well then ya better not include the spoilers in the title of the news article...
I knew better not to and ...
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 26th, 2023 @ 2:45pm CDT
Nothing crucial here.
I remember my Brony days and a key element of a trio of ponies was they were looking for their butt-tattoos to appear, symbols that will decide their future. They were looking for it for at least 2 seasons and that was their main drive.
I could only see the episodes on the Seven Seas, way after they were released.
Of course I go to youtube.
Of course a prominent clipper appear in my recommended.
Of course there was the bold title complete with the obvious in-your-face thumbnail yelling "THEY FOUND THEIR BUTT-TATTOO".
The parallel would be imagine if the internet existed in 1986 with youtube, and there would be a bold title complete with the picture, "OPTIMUS FUKKING DIES!"
Now, THAT'S spoilers.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 26th, 2023 @ 2:48pm CDT
That actually kind of happened. At least half of that movie's trailers and commercials from back then all alluded to Optimus's death (saying "DOES PRIME DIE?!!"), instead of keeping it secret.-Kanrabat- wrote:The parallel would be imagine if the internet existed in 1986 with youtube, and there would be a bold title complete with the picture, "OPTIMUS FUKKING DIES!"
Now, THAT'S spoilers.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 26th, 2023 @ 2:58pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:That actually kind of happened. At least half of that movie's trailers and commercials from back then all alluded to Optimus's death (saying "DOES PRIME DIE?!!"), instead of keeping it secret.-Kanrabat- wrote:The parallel would be imagine if the internet existed in 1986 with youtube, and there would be a bold title complete with the picture, "OPTIMUS FUKKING DIES!"
Now, THAT'S spoilers.
Oh lol WAT?
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 26th, 2023 @ 4:18pm CDT
Posted by Silver Wind on May 26th, 2023 @ 4:59pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 26th, 2023 @ 7:08pm CDT
Yeah, I with you. Regardless of the main plot and other characters, I don't have a good feeling about the Maximals. Maybe towards the end they'll reveal at least 1 or 2 Predacons.Silver Wind wrote:Going by what's been said about the movie both before and after release, this is one I'm definitely passing on. (Which is too bad; I grew up on Beast Wars as a child and was curious to see how they'd work on the big screen despite being Bayformers.)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 26th, 2023 @ 7:57pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, I with you. Regardless of the main plot and other characters, I don't have a good feeling about the Maximals. Maybe towards the end they'll reveal at least 1 or 2 Predacons.Silver Wind wrote:Going by what's been said about the movie both before and after release, this is one I'm definitely passing on. (Which is too bad; I grew up on Beast Wars as a child and was curious to see how they'd work on the big screen despite being Bayformers.)
You fear the AoE Dinobots treatment?
Meaning just a side-note in the movie and that's it?