Hasbro Confirms Currently Working with Paramount on New Transformers Films
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During the Hasbro 4th Quarter Earnings Conference call, Brian Goldner spoke about the current state of the Transformers brand, especially in terms of the entertainment side. While this could have all been predicted, based on what we heard from Lorenzo Di Bonventura, it is nice to see confirmation that Hasbro and Paramount are continuing their endeavours in the Transformers film franchise since Bumblebee (referred to here as an entreprise etirely of himself) is profitable.
There was no indication if that means specifically a Bumblebee sequel, all we know is there is more than one idea in the works currently for a Transformers themed film with Paramount. You can read the quote below:
There was no indication if that means specifically a Bumblebee sequel, all we know is there is more than one idea in the works currently for a Transformers themed film with Paramount. You can read the quote below:
On Transformers, in the fourth quarter was up both in the US and internationally, so up overall. We really successfully reengaged fans and families with Bumblebee. It's done over $450 million globally.
The early indications as we enter the New Year are for a strong ESP and home entertainment window, and we believe that the enterprise for Bumblebee, including the film, is profitable for Hasbro go forward.
Obviously we're in the early days. Haven't hit the home entertainment window yet. We haven't even opened in Japan yet, and the movie is still in theaters.
We knew In addition to the feature film, which is an important element and we are working on new films ideas with Paramount in partnership with Jim Giannopoulos and that team, and they're fantastic, we also have television on Cartoon Network, Netflix offering, and preschool offering. So across the board, it's a brand that really embodies our brand blueprint strategy, and we continue to believe very strongly in the power of the franchise.
Credit(s): Hasbro earnings conference
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Posted by Bumblevivisector on February 8th, 2019 @ 11:11pm CST
Posted by Bumblevivisector on February 8th, 2019 @ 11:11pm CST
So, a bit too vague to get anyone's hopes up for that Beast Wars movie.
Why do I suddenly have this feeling that a live action Bot-Bots movie is just as likely?
Regardless, I guess this means Bee did well enough.
Why do I suddenly have this feeling that a live action Bot-Bots movie is just as likely?
Regardless, I guess this means Bee did well enough.
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Posted by Deadput on February 9th, 2019 @ 12:43am CST
Posted by Deadput on February 9th, 2019 @ 12:43am CST
I don't care what the next movie or two is as long as their good and entertaining.
Would also prefer a reboot using Bumblebee as the first movie in a new continuity but if some miracle man can somehow make the Bay continuity actually work then I guess more power to them.
Would also prefer a reboot using Bumblebee as the first movie in a new continuity but if some miracle man can somehow make the Bay continuity actually work then I guess more power to them.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on February 9th, 2019 @ 4:30am CST
... I would watch a BotBots movie...
Also I now think that bee should stay a prequel to the Bay movies, as they aren't that hamstrung in certain terms. Only guidelines are no Megatron (give other cons chance to shine) bots (aside from bee) have to leave earth before 2007. That's a twenty years gap (could have been more of bee was set in the early eighties but what can you do).
Then give us a full reboot with a new take on their origins,with another style (more styles = more toys for hasbro to sell)
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 9th, 2019 @ 4:30am CST
Bumblevivisector wrote:So, a bit too vague to get anyone's hopes up for that Beast Wars movie.
Why do I suddenly have this feeling that a live action Bot-Bots movie is just as likely?
Regardless, I guess this means Bee did well enough.
... I would watch a BotBots movie...
Also I now think that bee should stay a prequel to the Bay movies, as they aren't that hamstrung in certain terms. Only guidelines are no Megatron (give other cons chance to shine) bots (aside from bee) have to leave earth before 2007. That's a twenty years gap (could have been more of bee was set in the early eighties but what can you do).
Then give us a full reboot with a new take on their origins,with another style (more styles = more toys for hasbro to sell)
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 9th, 2019 @ 6:44am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 9th, 2019 @ 6:44am CST
If they could make a full CGI movie based on that awesome Cybertron intro scene from the Bee Movie, I'd be glad. If the story is Megatron's origin and the start of the Transformers civil war, I'd be really happy! 
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Posted by robotcaveman on February 9th, 2019 @ 7:29am CST
Posted by robotcaveman on February 9th, 2019 @ 7:29am CST
Looks good. YouTuber AndySupreme99,already confirmed that thanks to Bee’s success, we’re gonna get FIVE new tf movies in the future. There’s gonna be a Cybertron prequel, a Bumblebee 2, a Beast Wars movie, an Optimus Prime movie, and these four will build up to the Avengers styled Blockbuster Transformers Film. Get pumped folkes, we got a lot to look forward to in the upcoming decade.
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Posted by GeekyGamer Gal on February 9th, 2019 @ 8:15am CST
That's a lot of movies... Bee did well, but it wasn't a box office smash, I honestly think AndySupreme99 might be jumping the gun. Then again if they're gonna try and work it like the Marvel movies... 
Either way, I hope Bumblebee has show Paramount/Hasbro/Hollywood/WHOMEVER that the only way that these movies work for both just entertainment value and critical value is to have someone in the director's chair that actually CARES about the franchise. Bay did well in bringing Transformers back into the limelight with his
manner, but I don't think it should have gone on for as long as it did. Knight has been a relief as he focused on the characters and interactions to create an emotional connection to reflect his emotional connection with the characters. I just hope that whomever takes the reigns for any of these movies has the same care, consideration, and just does the research to make it work.
Posted by GeekyGamer Gal on February 9th, 2019 @ 8:15am CST
robotcaveman wrote:Looks good. YouTuber AndySupreme99,already confirmed that thanks to Bee’s success, we’re gonna get FIVE new tf movies in the future. There’s gonna be a Cybertron prequel, a Bumblebee 2, a Beast Wars movie, an Optimus Prime movie, and these four will build up to the Avengers styled Blockbuster Transformers Film. Get pumped folkes, we got a lot to look forward to in the upcoming decade.
That's a lot of movies... Bee did well, but it wasn't a box office smash, I honestly think AndySupreme99 might be jumping the gun. Then again if they're gonna try and work it like the Marvel movies... Either way, I hope Bumblebee has show Paramount/Hasbro/Hollywood/WHOMEVER that the only way that these movies work for both just entertainment value and critical value is to have someone in the director's chair that actually CARES about the franchise. Bay did well in bringing Transformers back into the limelight with his
manner, but I don't think it should have gone on for as long as it did. Knight has been a relief as he focused on the characters and interactions to create an emotional connection to reflect his emotional connection with the characters. I just hope that whomever takes the reigns for any of these movies has the same care, consideration, and just does the research to make it work.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on February 9th, 2019 @ 9:37am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 9th, 2019 @ 9:37am CST
Actually none of what that YouTuber has said is 100% confirmed, we've newsed various pieces that have said as much. The prime movie was spoke about by the producer in terms of how they would approach it, beast wars was merely hinted at and is as far from happening as you can get. Also they aren't doing it the marvel way at all. Not using this continuity that is. What is normally spoken about in those terms is the hasbro cinematic universe, where GI Joe, Micronaughts and the like would get their films and then put together.
If I had to guess I'd say that YouTuber just pulled rumours together from different sources
If I had to guess I'd say that YouTuber just pulled rumours together from different sources
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Posted by Aimless Misfire on February 9th, 2019 @ 9:47am CST
Posted by Aimless Misfire on February 9th, 2019 @ 9:47am CST
I'm not interested in anything if Bumblebee is the major focus. He ruined the franchise for me. I'm still messing around with some Combiner Wars but other than that I'm done with this franchise. There is nothing here for me anymore. Been a fan since 84 but between the MENTALLY SICK BUMBLEBEE WORSHIP the fans are currently suffering from & the constant price hikes I've lost interest.
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Posted by william-james88 on February 9th, 2019 @ 10:11am CST
Clearly not enough, or else you wouldn't still be here looking at the news
Posted by william-james88 on February 9th, 2019 @ 10:11am CST
Aimless Misfire wrote:I'm not interested in anything if Bumblebee is the major focus. He ruined the franchise for me. I'm still messing around with some Combiner Wars but other than that I'm done with this franchise. There is nothing here for me anymore. Been a fan since 84 but between the MENTALLY SICK BUMBLEBEE WORSHIP the fans are currently suffering from & the constant price hikes I've lost interest.
Clearly not enough, or else you wouldn't still be here looking at the news
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Posted by Oh, No. This Guy. on February 9th, 2019 @ 10:28am CST
Posted by Oh, No. This Guy. on February 9th, 2019 @ 10:28am CST
So, I am happy to hear that they're working on the next film, which will hopefully be good, whatever it is. However, what interests me most about this article is the news (at least to me, I don't know if you guys somehow found out about this) that Netflix is offering to work with Hasbro on a potential Transformers Netflix Original. I would love it if we could convince them to either make a cartoon adaptation of IDW's More than Meets the Eye, with James Roberts in control, or make something completely original and amazing, with Roberts or any other creative person in control of it.
Anyways, I just REALLY want to see my favorite piece of TF media get some animated love and attention.
Anyways, I just REALLY want to see my favorite piece of TF media get some animated love and attention.
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Posted by GeekyGamer Gal on February 9th, 2019 @ 2:39pm CST
I'm not a fan of 'Bee either, and I was extremely hesitant to watch another Transformers movie after that Last Knight fiasco. I did however give this movie a chance after having watched the Laika films, especially Kubo since that was Knight's directorial debut, and was surprised when it turned out to be my second favorite movie of the year.
That is to say Bumblebee (movie) is not without any flaws, and I'll happily admit that Bumblebee (character) in the recent decades has become this icon for children marketing that is a turn off for adult fans. It just comes down to how much do you actually enjoy the other characters in this franchise, as it seems a waste to let one bad little bee ruin everything.
Don't we all? If the director is good, I'm all for it.
Posted by GeekyGamer Gal on February 9th, 2019 @ 2:39pm CST
Aimless Misfire wrote:I'm not interested in anything if Bumblebee is the major focus. He ruined the franchise for me.
I'm not a fan of 'Bee either, and I was extremely hesitant to watch another Transformers movie after that Last Knight fiasco. I did however give this movie a chance after having watched the Laika films, especially Kubo since that was Knight's directorial debut, and was surprised when it turned out to be my second favorite movie of the year.
That is to say Bumblebee (movie) is not without any flaws, and I'll happily admit that Bumblebee (character) in the recent decades has become this icon for children marketing that is a turn off for adult fans. It just comes down to how much do you actually enjoy the other characters in this franchise, as it seems a waste to let one bad little bee ruin everything.
Oh, No. This Guy. wrote:Anyways, I just REALLY want to see my favorite piece of TF media get some animated love and attention.
Don't we all? If the director is good, I'm all for it.
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Posted by Burn on February 9th, 2019 @ 3:25pm CST
Posted by Burn on February 9th, 2019 @ 3:25pm CST
Question ...
Why do people say Knights "cares" about the franchise and that Bay didn't?
Isn't it more likely a case of they're two different directors who had different writing staff? Hence the ... difference?
Why do people say Knights "cares" about the franchise and that Bay didn't?
Isn't it more likely a case of they're two different directors who had different writing staff? Hence the ... difference?
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Posted by william-james88 on February 9th, 2019 @ 3:31pm CST
Only up to an extent. Both Knight and Bay were also in charge of the look of the film. Bay chose to make the characters have less smooth surfaces (to help with realism in lighting an such) but Knight wanted them closer in look to the G1 style. Knight grew up with the Transformers and is a fan and while I dont have a specific quote, I do not think that Bay knew of this brand well before being given it. And that can explain their different choices. Also, we know that Bay did not care to have Peter Cullen voice Optimus Prime for the first film (at first).
Posted by william-james88 on February 9th, 2019 @ 3:31pm CST
Burn wrote:Question ...
Why do people say Knights "cares" about the franchise and that Bay didn't?
Isn't it more likely a case of they're two different directors who had different writing staff? Hence the ... difference?
Only up to an extent. Both Knight and Bay were also in charge of the look of the film. Bay chose to make the characters have less smooth surfaces (to help with realism in lighting an such) but Knight wanted them closer in look to the G1 style. Knight grew up with the Transformers and is a fan and while I dont have a specific quote, I do not think that Bay knew of this brand well before being given it. And that can explain their different choices. Also, we know that Bay did not care to have Peter Cullen voice Optimus Prime for the first film (at first).
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Posted by Burn on February 9th, 2019 @ 3:46pm CST
Posted by Burn on February 9th, 2019 @ 3:46pm CST
But that doesn't say to me Knight "cares", he grew up with them, that doesn't scream "fanboy".
Just seems to me it's two directors who have two different styles working with a bunch of different writers.
And it's time people accepted that the writers need to be held to task/lauded as well instead of blaming/praising just the director. As far as I'm concerned, the Bay movies got progressively worse as the writers changed.
So this whole "Travis Knight cares about the franchise" is baseless. He has a different style to directing and he had a decent writer to work with.
Just seems to me it's two directors who have two different styles working with a bunch of different writers.
And it's time people accepted that the writers need to be held to task/lauded as well instead of blaming/praising just the director. As far as I'm concerned, the Bay movies got progressively worse as the writers changed.
So this whole "Travis Knight cares about the franchise" is baseless. He has a different style to directing and he had a decent writer to work with.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 10th, 2019 @ 3:58am CST
I agree with that too. Seeing the robots in all their G1 glory on screen did please my inner fanboy, sure, but it was only a 5 minutes thing. If the story of the recent Bee movie had the same writers as the previous Bay movies, it will have been trash and would have been the final nail in the coffin.
Bee had a strong story and that's why the movie was good. The G1 look was a great cherry on top of the sundae but this time around the ice cream too was delicious.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 10th, 2019 @ 3:58am CST
Burn wrote:So this whole "Travis Knight cares about the franchise" is baseless. He has a different style to directing and he had a decent writer to work with.
I agree with that too. Seeing the robots in all their G1 glory on screen did please my inner fanboy, sure, but it was only a 5 minutes thing. If the story of the recent Bee movie had the same writers as the previous Bay movies, it will have been trash and would have been the final nail in the coffin.
Bee had a strong story and that's why the movie was good. The G1 look was a great cherry on top of the sundae but this time around the ice cream too was delicious.
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Posted by GeekyGamer Gal on February 10th, 2019 @ 10:23am CST
Not completely. I know I mentioned before that I've watched a lot of Knight's LAIKA work, where he's been pretty much everything before directing Kubo and the two strings. In the bonus features for Kubo, Knight pretty much lays out how when he had a basic script for the movie and decided that it was to have a feudal/warring states period feel he dove into research. He spend months researching for how the characters should look, act, on how the sets should look, and what would be considered appropriate for that time period. He reached out to a couple of Japanese historical societies and museums to get the approval for his design choices, and then went above and beyond by making the more fantastical environments reflect the ukiyo-e woodblock prints. It was after he had the look completed that he then worked on the script and reworked it to better reflect what he had researched and changed with his sets and characters.
Knight is by far more meticulous and detail oriented than Bay on how his movie should work, which could be very well a by product of his stop motion animation background. Bay has stated in his interviews/behind the scenes that he's left the research to others and that he focuses more on how the visuals for the special effects look rather than how the scenes flow. I will however also state that the editing process can be a movie killer as well.
Long speech over with just this final comment. Movies have a lot of fingers in the clay shaping them, and yes directors will get most of the credit or blame because their name is always listed first, and they always have the chance to force a writer change or rework the script while in production. Then if the studio doesn't like it then they'll just fire the director, and get somebody else in there to take the fall.
Posted by GeekyGamer Gal on February 10th, 2019 @ 10:23am CST
Burn wrote:But that doesn't say to me Knight "cares", he grew up with them, that doesn't scream "fanboy".
Just seems to me it's two directors who have two different styles working with a bunch of different writers.
And it's time people accepted that the writers need to be held to task/lauded as well instead of blaming/praising just the director. As far as I'm concerned, the Bay movies got progressively worse as the writers changed.
So this whole "Travis Knight cares about the franchise" is baseless. He has a different style to directing and he had a decent writer to work with.
Not completely. I know I mentioned before that I've watched a lot of Knight's LAIKA work, where he's been pretty much everything before directing Kubo and the two strings. In the bonus features for Kubo, Knight pretty much lays out how when he had a basic script for the movie and decided that it was to have a feudal/warring states period feel he dove into research. He spend months researching for how the characters should look, act, on how the sets should look, and what would be considered appropriate for that time period. He reached out to a couple of Japanese historical societies and museums to get the approval for his design choices, and then went above and beyond by making the more fantastical environments reflect the ukiyo-e woodblock prints. It was after he had the look completed that he then worked on the script and reworked it to better reflect what he had researched and changed with his sets and characters.
Knight is by far more meticulous and detail oriented than Bay on how his movie should work, which could be very well a by product of his stop motion animation background. Bay has stated in his interviews/behind the scenes that he's left the research to others and that he focuses more on how the visuals for the special effects look rather than how the scenes flow. I will however also state that the editing process can be a movie killer as well.
Long speech over with just this final comment. Movies have a lot of fingers in the clay shaping them, and yes directors will get most of the credit or blame because their name is always listed first, and they always have the chance to force a writer change or rework the script while in production.
Then if the studio doesn't like it then they'll just fire the director, and get somebody else in there to take the fall.
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Posted by Ironhidensh on February 10th, 2019 @ 12:57pm CST
Posted by Ironhidensh on February 10th, 2019 @ 12:57pm CST
Well, after reading and watching several interviews with Knight, he has made it clear that he is a fan and did a lot of research on the subject. Bay never once made any impression of that sort, he just made Bay movies that had robots in them.
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Posted by Burn on February 10th, 2019 @ 1:50pm CST
Posted by Burn on February 10th, 2019 @ 1:50pm CST
So it's not so much that he "cares about Transformers", but more so "he cares about his craft".
I had nothing against Bay's style, but for me, with each change of writers, the movies got worse and worse. Christina Hodson deserves a good chunk of credit as well.
I had nothing against Bay's style, but for me, with each change of writers, the movies got worse and worse. Christina Hodson deserves a good chunk of credit as well.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on February 10th, 2019 @ 2:03pm CST
As someone who doesn't care about the G1 bleed in with the Cybertron scenes, I would say she deserves most of the credit, I reckon even Bay would have had a hard time turning it into a bad movie.
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 10th, 2019 @ 2:03pm CST
Burn wrote:So it's not so much that he "cares about Transformers", but more so "he cares about his craft".
I had nothing against Bay's style, but for me, with each change of writers, the movies got worse and worse. Christina Hodson deserves a good chunk of credit as well.
As someone who doesn't care about the G1 bleed in with the Cybertron scenes, I would say she deserves most of the credit, I reckon even Bay would have had a hard time turning it into a bad movie.
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Posted by Sabrblade on February 10th, 2019 @ 2:12pm CST
Granted, that's a different kind of "caring about the craft" than what's been said of Knight doing research and showing a loving appreciation towards the source material, but both men love different aspects of the craft.
I think it best boils down to, for better or for worse (it's all opinionated) what Lindsay Ellis once said in one of her video essays discussing the Transformers films through the lenses of film studies:
Posted by Sabrblade on February 10th, 2019 @ 2:12pm CST
I'd say Bay cares very much about his craft. Countless interviews with both him and members of his film and production crew have talked about how meticulous and passionate he is about things like cinematography and special effects. Getting just the right angles, using the best possible technology to capture the scene just right, that sort of thing.Burn wrote:So it's not so much that he "cares about Transformers", but more so "he cares about his craft".
Granted, that's a different kind of "caring about the craft" than what's been said of Knight doing research and showing a loving appreciation towards the source material, but both men love different aspects of the craft.
I think it best boils down to, for better or for worse (it's all opinionated) what Lindsay Ellis once said in one of her video essays discussing the Transformers films through the lenses of film studies:
"In the intersection between the Bay politique and Transformers lies the answer both to why the films have been so successful, and why many fans of the franchise find the films so noxious. Bay politique appeals to a main stream, but it does not line up with the sincere honorship of nostalgia. The message in Michael Bay's Transformers about Transformers is not 'Let's leave these wonderful creations in the innocent world of children where they belong,' it's more along the lines of 'Why would you wanna play with plastic toys when you can play with titties, you *bleep*in' losers?' So when people say 'Michael Bay raped my childhood,' ...what they really mean is Michael Bay added politique to something innocent. Michael Bay took this memory of a property that I hold fondly and robbed it of its magical, nostalgic value by dragging it into this idea of things that 'really' matter like the military, titties, and cars, which are all shown as vastly superior to the childlike quality of the franchise itself. It isn't really even about political affiliation or world views so much as its reverence for the source material, of which Michael Bay has none, which is why people who have a vague memory of the Transformers franchise (i.e. - most people) tend to respond more positively to these movies than people with a more intense knowledge and affinity for the franchise."
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Posted by Burn on February 10th, 2019 @ 3:11pm CST
He does, just because I didn't say doesn't mean I was saying he didn't.
They're two very different Directors who had very different writers.
To me, Bumblebee was an okay movie, it was a definite improvement over Age of Extinction and Last Knight, but I went into Bumblebee burned from those two movies, and that's probably why I don't necessarily agree with everyone who lauds praise on Bumblebee.
What it did prove to me though is that you can actually have a good decent Transformers movie, but what hasn't changed in my mind though is that it comes back to the writers. Bay movies got progressively worse as the writers changed. They found a talent in Hodson who has the potential to be a writer for female leads (we'll see how Birds of Preys (and the blah blah blah of Harley Quinn) goes).
So going forward, they need to find a decent writer who can be backed up by the right Director. The Knight/Hodson combo worked for this particular movie, but on a larger scale with a larger TF cast, I have my reservations about them.
Posted by Burn on February 10th, 2019 @ 3:11pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:I'd say Bay cares very much about his craft.
He does, just because I didn't say doesn't mean I was saying he didn't.
They're two very different Directors who had very different writers.
To me, Bumblebee was an okay movie, it was a definite improvement over Age of Extinction and Last Knight, but I went into Bumblebee burned from those two movies, and that's probably why I don't necessarily agree with everyone who lauds praise on Bumblebee.
What it did prove to me though is that you can actually have a good decent Transformers movie, but what hasn't changed in my mind though is that it comes back to the writers. Bay movies got progressively worse as the writers changed. They found a talent in Hodson who has the potential to be a writer for female leads (we'll see how Birds of Preys (and the blah blah blah of Harley Quinn) goes).
So going forward, they need to find a decent writer who can be backed up by the right Director. The Knight/Hodson combo worked for this particular movie, but on a larger scale with a larger TF cast, I have my reservations about them.
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Posted by Deadput on February 10th, 2019 @ 5:30pm CST
Posted by Deadput on February 10th, 2019 @ 5:30pm CST
If it makes any sense I think a difference about how it is could be separated like this.
Bay wanted to craft a good movie that so happened to have Transformers in it.
Knight wanted to craft a good Transformer movie.
Neither are technically inferior to the other, it's just different approaches to a franchise.
It's really just Knight and Bay Seriously their names really make an awesome coincidence for a sentence like that
Bay wanted to craft a good movie that so happened to have Transformers in it.
Knight wanted to craft a good Transformer movie.
Neither are technically inferior to the other, it's just different approaches to a franchise.
It's really just Knight and Bay Seriously their names really make an awesome coincidence for a sentence like that
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Posted by notsoalex on February 11th, 2019 @ 4:27pm CST
Posted by notsoalex on February 11th, 2019 @ 4:27pm CST
What's the Netflix offering? Do they mean just the shows on Netflix?
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Posted by william-james88 on March 15th, 2019 @ 10:28am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on March 15th, 2019 @ 10:28am CDT
The main Transformers film franchise producer, Lorenzo di Bonaventure, stated he is currently overseeing the scripting of two Transformers films sequels. He said so as part of a bigger interview to a Japanese movie news website as part of the Bumblebee press tour. One of the films is the next big tentpole Transformers film to follow The Last Knight, while the other is a sequel to Bumblebee. Please keep in mind that the film following the last Knight was already said to be a new experience and thus may involve a new storyline rather than finishing what was started in the Last Knight. The Bumblebee sequel is said to be a buddy movie featuring Optimus and Bumblebee. So one would take place in the past while the other in the present.
Here is a quote from the website:
Without a doubt, puts the whole kibosh on fans wanting a complete reboot. Of course, the fact that the same producer overseeing the entire franchise at paramount had confirmed that there was no reboot all along was also a pretty good hint.
Here is a quote from the website:
Throughout the day, Di Bonaventura talks with smiles," Our greatest mission is to the audience To be satisfied, "to meet the expectations of the audience." To that end, he and his colleagues are already working on a new series. "We are already working on two projects and are in the process of writing a script. One is the latest in the main family series following Transformers: The Last Knight and the other is a sequel to Bumblebee So, we are thinking of works where Optimus Prime and Bumblebee will be the buddy (buddy), but when Optimus and Bumblebee are the movies of the protagonists ... how human beings get involved in their drama In the first place, the size is different between human beings and theirs .... It's a worrying point (laughs).
Without a doubt, puts the whole kibosh on fans wanting a complete reboot. Of course, the fact that the same producer overseeing the entire franchise at paramount had confirmed that there was no reboot all along was also a pretty good hint.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on March 15th, 2019 @ 10:45am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 15th, 2019 @ 10:45am CDT
Will be interesting to see where they go with the next film (I mean the one that isn't Bumblebee movie 2)
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Posted by cruizerdave on March 15th, 2019 @ 11:12am CDT
Posted by cruizerdave on March 15th, 2019 @ 11:12am CDT
Last Knight Sequel—
Please no. No sequel to the Last Knight. It was the worst one yet in a parade of garbage that has gotten progressively worse with each film. Please no. These are trash films that can only be enjoyed by mocking them and watching them as a joke. The characters all act like they are high on cocaine, the robots aren't even treated as characters, the stories contradict themselves, the scripts are banal, the humor isn't funny to anyone but stoned frat boys, the women are objectified and there are racist and misogynist themes throughout.
Also, they are aggressively stupid.
Please, just make them stop.
Bumblebee sequel —
Okay, I'll go to that.
Please no. No sequel to the Last Knight. It was the worst one yet in a parade of garbage that has gotten progressively worse with each film. Please no. These are trash films that can only be enjoyed by mocking them and watching them as a joke. The characters all act like they are high on cocaine, the robots aren't even treated as characters, the stories contradict themselves, the scripts are banal, the humor isn't funny to anyone but stoned frat boys, the women are objectified and there are racist and misogynist themes throughout.
Also, they are aggressively stupid.
Please, just make them stop.
Bumblebee sequel —
Okay, I'll go to that.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on March 15th, 2019 @ 11:23am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 15th, 2019 @ 11:23am CDT
I don't think they are bringing bay back for the mainline movies do expect bee movie storytelling to bleed through.
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Posted by boyatlarge on March 15th, 2019 @ 11:27am CDT
Posted by boyatlarge on March 15th, 2019 @ 11:27am CDT
I think a sequel to The Last Knight would be great! As long as it starts out with a flashback to the final moments of The Last Knight, then suddenly you see Optimus Prime waking up in his bed all upset, and he's his old G1 self, and Alita-One, lying next to him, asks him if he had a bad dream, and he's like, "Oh, man, a nightmare," referring to the entire Bay-verse run and we all learn it was all just a dream and not part of canon and the movie proceeds from there.
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Posted by Decepticon Stryker on March 15th, 2019 @ 11:36am CDT
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on March 15th, 2019 @ 11:36am CDT
Meh. 
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Posted by Decepticon Stryker on March 15th, 2019 @ 11:36am CDT
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on March 15th, 2019 @ 11:36am CDT
I really don't care about the movies themselves anymore
Mostly because they turn everyone into hateful idiots.
Mostly because they turn everyone into hateful idiots.
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 15th, 2019 @ 12:07pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 15th, 2019 @ 12:07pm CDT
Except for the Bumblebee movie.Decepticon Stryker wrote:I really don't care about the movies themselves anymore
Mostly because they turn everyone into hateful idiots.
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Posted by Ratman_tf on March 15th, 2019 @ 12:16pm CDT
Posted by Ratman_tf on March 15th, 2019 @ 12:16pm CDT
I bailed out of the Bay films with Dark of the Moon, so have no interest in a sequel to Last Knight.
I am interested in the Bumblebee sequel.
I am interested in the Bumblebee sequel.
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Posted by Agent 53 on March 15th, 2019 @ 1:06pm CDT
Posted by Agent 53 on March 15th, 2019 @ 1:06pm CDT
I'm not Anti-Bayverse like some, but I do have a concern for a Last Knight sequel.
Last Knight built up to Unicron, if they're keeping the old continuity then that has to be where they go next, it's literally the only move they have, and I cannot see a way for them to do Justice to Unicron without destroying the Earth.
This was one of my few issues with Prime; Unicron is the big, planet eating devil of the transformers Mythology and by making him the core of earth they removed any chance of him fulfilling the classic role.
It's almost Ironic, the Aligned universe maintains Unicron's Evil space god role, but completely deviates from the real Unicron imagery, for the worse in my view, while IDW nailed a modern take on Unicron's appearence, but then eliminated his Evil God thing (the final nail in the 'deconstruct all transformer mythology' the last year or so of the old universe seemed to focus on) and made him a weapon of vengeance against Cybertron.
Can't we just get Unicron with all the best bits. Well obviously not in the films unless they actually do destroy the Earth.
Hey, maybe they'll reboot after that, I mean IDW hit reboot after doing Unicron, And with the corner they're painted into they have no choice, they could even have it that destoying Unicron caused some qauntum surge and caused the timeline to reset, with the slast shots of the film being Cybertron as seen in Bumblebee. For that with Bumblebee 2, since last I heard official word now say it is a different timeline, can they retcon that he didn't scan a Camaro, or changed his mind and re-scanned a Beetle, please, Bumblebee Bumblebee may not have been a perfect representation of G1 Bee, but he was still the best Bumblebee we've had, because Bee is meant to be the little guy, the small car, there are litterally dozens of autobots that can turn into big cars, give us our Bug back!
Last Knight built up to Unicron, if they're keeping the old continuity then that has to be where they go next, it's literally the only move they have, and I cannot see a way for them to do Justice to Unicron without destroying the Earth.
This was one of my few issues with Prime; Unicron is the big, planet eating devil of the transformers Mythology and by making him the core of earth they removed any chance of him fulfilling the classic role.
It's almost Ironic, the Aligned universe maintains Unicron's Evil space god role, but completely deviates from the real Unicron imagery, for the worse in my view, while IDW nailed a modern take on Unicron's appearence, but then eliminated his Evil God thing (the final nail in the 'deconstruct all transformer mythology' the last year or so of the old universe seemed to focus on) and made him a weapon of vengeance against Cybertron.
Can't we just get Unicron with all the best bits. Well obviously not in the films unless they actually do destroy the Earth.
Hey, maybe they'll reboot after that, I mean IDW hit reboot after doing Unicron, And with the corner they're painted into they have no choice, they could even have it that destoying Unicron caused some qauntum surge and caused the timeline to reset, with the slast shots of the film being Cybertron as seen in Bumblebee. For that with Bumblebee 2, since last I heard official word now say it is a different timeline, can they retcon that he didn't scan a Camaro, or changed his mind and re-scanned a Beetle, please, Bumblebee Bumblebee may not have been a perfect representation of G1 Bee, but he was still the best Bumblebee we've had, because Bee is meant to be the little guy, the small car, there are litterally dozens of autobots that can turn into big cars, give us our Bug back!
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Posted by ZeroWolf on March 15th, 2019 @ 1:12pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 15th, 2019 @ 1:12pm CDT
Where did you hear that its a different timeline? Bee 2 is not a reboot, it's a prequel-sequel set between bee and Transformers 07. As been stated there has been no rebooting. I suspect if anything they may just conviently forget all about the last knight for the whole and just keep the other four movies and move on from there (or establish that unicron inside the earth is only the gods intelligence which escapes into the cosmos after playing a game of possess the bot and there merges asteroids till he's the planet eater we all know)
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Posted by Barricade.it on March 15th, 2019 @ 1:19pm CDT
Posted by Barricade.it on March 15th, 2019 @ 1:19pm CDT
I didn't dislike TLK but it wasn't a TFMovie, it was something completely different. AOE was even worse, in my opinion but AOE was somehow in the continuity and, moreover, had some way of development for the plot: TLK is a colpete dead eand. Even though there was that woman in the final walking near the horn of unicron, the plot went too astray to be seriously developed. For example: what is supposed to do the whole planet Earth with Cybertron lying on its surface?
I think that anyhow a new movie will start form TLK it will be a complete disaster.
I think that anyhow a new movie will start form TLK it will be a complete disaster.
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Posted by Evil Eye on March 15th, 2019 @ 1:25pm CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on March 15th, 2019 @ 1:25pm CDT
Well this kinda sucks, but it's to be expected I suppose. As long as it's not as outstandingly bad as TLK I'll be OK with it- I enjoyed every movie that wasn't TLK, so who knows, there might be a chance of it not being atrocious.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on March 15th, 2019 @ 1:28pm CDT
Well there will almost certainly be a different director attached and probably a new writer.
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 15th, 2019 @ 1:28pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:Well this kinda sucks, but it's to be expected I suppose. As long as it's not as outstandingly bad as TLK I'll be OK with it- I enjoyed every movie that wasn't TLK, so who knows, there might be a chance of it not being atrocious.
Well there will almost certainly be a different director attached and probably a new writer.
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Posted by Evil Eye on March 15th, 2019 @ 1:30pm CDT
Honestly I don't blame Bay for TLK being so bad-I lay that blame at the feet of the "writers' room" (and also Izabella, AKA the WORST human character in the movieverse, which is saying something). Keep Bay and give him a decent writer to work with and IMO you have a good chance of a good movie.
Of course Knight as director would be better, but I'd take Bay.
Posted by Evil Eye on March 15th, 2019 @ 1:30pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Black Hat wrote:Well this kinda sucks, but it's to be expected I suppose. As long as it's not as outstandingly bad as TLK I'll be OK with it- I enjoyed every movie that wasn't TLK, so who knows, there might be a chance of it not being atrocious.
Well there will almost certainly be a different director attached and probably a new writer.
Honestly I don't blame Bay for TLK being so bad-I lay that blame at the feet of the "writers' room" (and also Izabella, AKA the WORST human character in the movieverse, which is saying something). Keep Bay and give him a decent writer to work with and IMO you have a good chance of a good movie.
Of course Knight as director would be better, but I'd take Bay.
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Posted by william-james88 on March 15th, 2019 @ 1:44pm CDT
Except for the step dad
Also AOE did something none of the other films did, they had Prime be a main character.
Posted by william-james88 on March 15th, 2019 @ 1:44pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Except for the Bumblebee movie.Decepticon Stryker wrote:I really don't care about the movies themselves anymore
Mostly because they turn everyone into hateful idiots.
Except for the step dad
Barricade.it wrote:but AOE was somehow in the continuity and, moreover, had some way of development for the plot
Also AOE did something none of the other films did, they had Prime be a main character.
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Posted by Deadput on March 15th, 2019 @ 2:04pm CDT
I thought the step dad was fine.
He made me laugh anyways.
Posted by Deadput on March 15th, 2019 @ 2:04pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Except for the Bumblebee movie.Decepticon Stryker wrote:I really don't care about the movies themselves anymore
Mostly because they turn everyone into hateful idiots.
Except for the step dadBarricade.it wrote:but AOE was somehow in the continuity and, moreover, had some way of development for the plot
Also AOE did something none of the other films did, they had Prime be a main character.
I thought the step dad was fine.
He made me laugh anyways.
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Posted by hausjam on March 15th, 2019 @ 2:24pm CDT
Posted by hausjam on March 15th, 2019 @ 2:24pm CDT
"This of course puts the whole kibosh on fans wanting a complete reboot."
It should be "This of course puts the whole kibosh on entitled crybabies wanting a complete reboot."
It should be "This of course puts the whole kibosh on entitled crybabies wanting a complete reboot."
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Posted by william-james88 on March 15th, 2019 @ 2:41pm CDT
I still dont get how any of this matters to anyone. The Bumblebee movie proved that you can still make a film everyone will enjoy without needing a complete reboot. You can still have humans, still have the military, and even have bayverse faces and its ok.
Posted by william-james88 on March 15th, 2019 @ 2:41pm CDT
hausjam wrote:"This of course puts the whole kibosh on fans wanting a complete reboot."
It should be "This of course puts the whole kibosh on entitled crybabies wanting a complete reboot."
I still dont get how any of this matters to anyone. The Bumblebee movie proved that you can still make a film everyone will enjoy without needing a complete reboot. You can still have humans, still have the military, and even have bayverse faces and its ok.
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 15th, 2019 @ 3:01pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 15th, 2019 @ 3:01pm CDT
But it's still not MY Transformers! It's still not catering to MY very specific narrow-minded tastes and opinions! If it isn't EXACTLY like how things were back when I was 5 years old, then it SUUUUCKS!!!william-james88 wrote:I still dont get how any of this matters to anyone. The Bumblebee movie proved that you can still make a film everyone will enjoy without needing a complete reboot. You can still have humans, still have the military, and even have bayverse faces and its ok.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on March 15th, 2019 @ 3:03pm CDT
Couldn't say it better myself
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 15th, 2019 @ 3:03pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:But it's still not MY Transformers! It's still not catering to MY very specific narrow-minded tastes and opinions! If it isn't EXACTLY like how things were back when I was 5 years old, then it SUUUUCKS!!!william-james88 wrote:I still dont get how any of this matters to anyone. The Bumblebee movie proved that you can still make a film everyone will enjoy without needing a complete reboot. You can still have humans, still have the military, and even have bayverse faces and its ok.
Couldn't say it better myself
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 15th, 2019 @ 3:04pm CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 15th, 2019 @ 3:04pm CDT
Wait what? A follow up to The Last Knight? :O I thought I was done with looking forward to new movies after that stupid Bumblebee mess pretty much confused everyone into whether it was a reboot or not (and if it's not then it still makes a mess of everything with it's G1-inspired cybertron stuff and other contradictions). Do I finally have a reason to look forward to actually going to cinema again or is someone just messing with my head. I enjoyed TLK though my fave movie is Age of Extinction for so many reasons. I'm feeling very confused and unsure whether to get my hopes up or whether there's some mix up and I'm not getting a TF6 after all. I just wanna see more of my fave Optimus and co.
I gonna go try sleep now cos i feel rough as hell all day and had major anxiety attack too but the thought of my Bayverse TFs possibly returning has cheered me up a bit and I gonna leave before more negatory stuffs like what i already seen happen above in this thread.. bleh.. . Have a good weekend.
I gonna go try sleep now cos i feel rough as hell all day and had major anxiety attack too but the thought of my Bayverse TFs possibly returning has cheered me up a bit and I gonna leave before more negatory stuffs like what i already seen happen above in this thread.. bleh.. . Have a good weekend.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 15th, 2019 @ 3:06pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 15th, 2019 @ 3:06pm CDT
Bashing on picky fans aside, I wouldn't mind a movie that is 100% CGI where the action is purely on Cybertron with no humans at all. Especially for a movie that depict the start of the Cybertronian civil war. We would then explore the rise of Megatron and Optimus Prime.
Another (maybe full CGI) movie I want to see is a Beast Wars movie. The Beasts in the Bayverse on prehistoric Earth. I want to see that.
Another (maybe full CGI) movie I want to see is a Beast Wars movie. The Beasts in the Bayverse on prehistoric Earth. I want to see that.
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Posted by Wireless_Phantom on March 15th, 2019 @ 3:32pm CDT
I would absolutely see that movie.
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on March 15th, 2019 @ 3:32pm CDT
boyatlarge wrote:I think a sequel to The Last Knight would be great! As long as it starts out with a flashback to the final moments of The Last Knight, then suddenly you see Optimus Prime waking up in his bed all upset, and he's his old G1 self, and Alita-One, lying next to him, asks him if he had a bad dream, and he's like, "Oh, man, a nightmare," referring to the entire Bay-verse run and we all learn it was all just a dream and not part of canon and the movie proceeds from there.
I would absolutely see that movie.
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Posted by Shuttershock on March 15th, 2019 @ 4:45pm CDT
Posted by Shuttershock on March 15th, 2019 @ 4:45pm CDT
If future movies can maintain the level of basic filmmaking competency that the Bumblebee movie brought, I guess that’s fine.
Just a shame that there’s no definitive fresh start that an actual reboot brings.
Just a shame that there’s no definitive fresh start that an actual reboot brings.
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Posted by SkyFire Prime on March 15th, 2019 @ 4:51pm CDT
Posted by SkyFire Prime on March 15th, 2019 @ 4:51pm CDT
This site seems to lean heavily into Bayverse support.
Building on the terrible foundation of the Bayverse will result in an utter collapse of the TF movie franchise. By not starting fresh and ignoring the power of nostalgia the next movie may be the last. Instead of starting a cinematic universe, they'll choke it to death.
Good luck with that shit...
Building on the terrible foundation of the Bayverse will result in an utter collapse of the TF movie franchise. By not starting fresh and ignoring the power of nostalgia the next movie may be the last. Instead of starting a cinematic universe, they'll choke it to death.
Good luck with that shit...
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Posted by william-james88 on March 15th, 2019 @ 5:06pm CDT
The only thing we lean heavily on is facts.
Posted by william-james88 on March 15th, 2019 @ 5:06pm CDT
SkyFire Prime wrote:This site seems to lean heavily into Bayverse support.
Building on the terrible foundation of the Bayverse will result in an utter collapse of the TF movie franchise. By not starting fresh and ignoring the power of nostalgia the next movie may be the last. Instead of starting a cinematic universe, they'll choke it to death.
Good luck with that ****...
The only thing we lean heavily on is facts.
