First Review of Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Starscream

I dunno, the head, still doesn't scream (ahem) Starscream to me

Glad to see starscream on video. However, chuck didn't bother showing it with all the armor bits equipped in jet and bot mode. That's a glaring omission.

Holy already empty wallet batman! I have jetfire, and wasn't really planning on getting these(seekers) but i am a sucker for the jets. The only things i would have like are; hide the wheels on the legs with out the armor and the one time "chrome would have been good was on that crown but no we got a jetfire with it? And for the price point we should see chrome and the "jet pack"

thanos13omega wrote:Holy already empty wallet batman! I have jetfire, and wasn't really planning on getting these(seekers) but i am a sucker for the jets. The only things i would have like are; hide the wheels on the legs with out the armor and the one time "chrome would have been good was on that crown but no we got a jetfire with it? And for the price point we should see chrome and the "jet pack"

It's true that replacing the mask and jetpack with the crown and null rays seem like a cheapo trade-off. I don't mind the no-chrome, but it would have been really appreciated on the crown.

I would really have liked to see how Screamers look with the armor bits. Leaving this step out was a lazy disservice.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

thanos13omega wrote:Holy already empty wallet batman! I have jetfire, and wasn't really planning on getting these(seekers) but i am a sucker for the jets. The only things i would have like are; hide the wheels on the legs with out the armor and the one time "chrome would have been good was on that crown but no we got a jetfire with it? And for the price point we should see chrome and the "jet pack"

It's true that replacing the mask and jetpack with the crown and null rays seem like a cheapo trade-off. I don't mind the no-chrome, but it would have been really appreciated on the crown.

I would really have liked to see how Screamers look with the armor bits. Leaving this step out was a lazy disservice.

I guess the cost of the remolded head, shoulder pads and wing retool plus colors offset the fast pack and chrome?

fenrir72 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

thanos13omega wrote:Holy already empty wallet batman! I have jetfire, and wasn't really planning on getting these(seekers) but i am a sucker for the jets. The only things i would have like are; hide the wheels on the legs with out the armor and the one time "chrome would have been good was on that crown but no we got a jetfire with it? And for the price point we should see chrome and the "jet pack"

It's true that replacing the mask and jetpack with the crown and null rays seem like a cheapo trade-off. I don't mind the no-chrome, but it would have been really appreciated on the crown.

I would really have liked to see how Screamers look with the armor bits. Leaving this step out was a lazy disservice.

I guess the cost of the remolded head, shoulder pads and wing retool plus colors offset the fast pack and chrome?

Can't be that. I call greed.

Case in point, FOC Jazz VS FOC Sideswipe. Jazz came first, with a lone itsy bitsy tiny gun. Sideswipe was a repaint remold of Jazz, with the head and part of the vehicle remolded. He came with a HUGE-ASS cannon.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

thanos13omega wrote:Holy already empty wallet batman! I have jetfire, and wasn't really planning on getting these(seekers) but i am a sucker for the jets. The only things i would have like are; hide the wheels on the legs with out the armor and the one time "chrome would have been good was on that crown but no we got a jetfire with it? And for the price point we should see chrome and the "jet pack"

It's true that replacing the mask and jetpack with the crown and null rays seem like a cheapo trade-off. I don't mind the no-chrome, but it would have been really appreciated on the crown.

I would really have liked to see how Screamers look with the armor bits. Leaving this step out was a lazy disservice.

I guess the cost of the remolded head, shoulder pads and wing retool plus colors offset the fast pack and chrome?

Can't be that. I call greed.

Case in point, FOC Jazz VS FOC Sideswipe. Jazz came first, with a lone itsy bitsy tiny gun. Sideswipe was a repaint remold of Jazz, with the head and part of the vehicle remolded. He came with a HUGE-ASS cannon.

Kinda late but, never ralized that as I didn't get too much into FOC. Gaack! That Jazz sure sucked spheroids! Sideswipe somewhat bearable.

Could it be they didnt put the chrome because the last time they did, all the fans started whining? Takara always had chrome on their version and people bought them for the superior deco. Hasbro tries once and "Aint G1, look at Takara, they know what's up, screw Hasbro". So Hasbro said f#$k it, and now here we are without chrome, thanks!

Anyways...

I think it was Chuck that said that it was too bad all the seekers had the same head. Well I am happy becuase last time they decided to make Starscream have a different head than his fellow seekers, it was for the worse:



So hellscream999, would you rather have that seeker head over this one?

william-james88 wrote:Could it be they didnt put the chrome because the last time they did, all the fans started whining? Takara always had chrome on their version and people bought them for the superior deco. Hasbro tries once and "Aint G1, look at Takara, they know what's up, screw Hasbro". So Hasbro said f#$k it, and now here we are without chrome, thanks!

Anyways...

I think it was Chuck that said that it was too bad all the seekers had the same head. Well I am happy becuase last time they decided to make Starscream have a different head than his fellow seekers, it was for the worse:



So hellscream9999, would you rather have that seeker head over this one?

Well, if you really want to know, I think most starscream head designs suck; I really liked Cybertron Starscreams head design if I remember correctly. Prime came pretty close, but that may have more to do with how emotive it was and how it fit the design and scting style of his character in relation to his body design. I honestly don't mind the alternity design too much, then again, I also sought out Injector at botcon this year, after wanting him my whole life, so take of it what you will.

I will say that Prime soundwave had the best head design, very fitting to his character and very intimidating

I did want to know, thanks for Sharing! And yeah, Galaxy Force's Starscream was SWEET! For me, my favourite seeker head is the alternity one on Thundercracker and Skywarp (and Banzaitron).

william-james88 wrote:I did want to know, thanks for Sharing! And yeah, Galaxy Force's Starscream was SWEET! For me, my favourite seeker head is the alternity one on Thundercracker and Skywarp (and Banzaitron).

It is really nice, haven't decided whether it works for them, its distinctive, yet they really seem to own it, like an edgy update on their original design

I think the WfC and FoC design nails it, come think on it; but there was something about the simple design of the G1 character... the simple face sorta hid him, like a facade of false intentions, or something.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Case in point, FOC Jazz VS FOC Sideswipe. Jazz came first, with a lone itsy bitsy tiny gun. Sideswipe was a repaint remold of Jazz, with the head and part of the vehicle remolded. He came with a HUGE-ASS cannon.

For what it's worth, FoC Sideswipe was about the time the price of Deluxes went up.

Hellscream9999 wrote:Well, if you really want to know, I think most starscream head designs suck; I really liked Cybertron Starscreams head design if I remember correctly. Prime came pretty close, but that may have more to do with how emotive it was and how it fit the design and scting style of his character in relation to his body design. I honestly don't mind the alternity design too much, then again, I also sought out Injector at botcon this year, after wanting him my whole life, so take of it what you will.

I will say that Prime soundwave had the best head design, very fitting to his character and very intimidating

How bout the head of this Starscream?

Is it the same as Smokejumper?

william-james88 wrote:Is it the same as Smokejumper?

And G2 Smokescreen. And RobotMasters Smokesniper.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Is it the same as Smokejumper?

And G2 Smokescreen. And RobotMasters Smokesniper.

BEST NAME EVAR

I give my CW skydive silverbolts big rifle and call him Smokesniper

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Well, if you really want to know, I think most starscream head designs suck; I really liked Cybertron Starscreams head design if I remember correctly. Prime came pretty close, but that may have more to do with how emotive it was and how it fit the design and scting style of his character in relation to his body design. I honestly don't mind the alternity design too much, then again, I also sought out Injector at botcon this year, after wanting him my whole life, so take of it what you will.

I will say that Prime soundwave had the best head design, very fitting to his character and very intimidating

How bout the head of this Starscream?

I'm not against it, but there's something integral to starscreams character and role, that demands he have a full face and be able to pull off a range of complex emotions or something, I dunno

william-james88 wrote:I did want to know, thanks for Sharing! And yeah, Galaxy Force's Starscream was SWEET! For me, my favourite seeker head is the alternity one on Thundercracker and Skywarp (and Banzaitron).

I bet that banzaitron would be a more satisfying experience than the rotf one


After searching for it for literally months and finding the only one I ever saw...


F#$&ing thumbs


F*$k that design

Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm not against it, but there's something integral to starscreams character and role, that demands he have a full face and be able to pull off a range of complex emotions or something, I dunno

*shrug* He did get a new one:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm not against it, but there's something integral to starscreams character and role, that demands he have a full face and be able to pull off a range of complex emotions or something, I dunno

*shrug* He did get a new one:

Lol, I have that guy; yeah, I don't know any fiction -except the exerpt from the graphic novel, but it could have worked by reflecting his new character; didn't he get a mental work-over due to that new form?

Hellscream9999 wrote:Lol, I have that guy; yeah, I don't know any fiction -except the exerpt from the graphic novel, but it could have worked by reflecting his new character; didn't he get a mental work-over due to that new form?

Haven't watched all of Beast Wars Second yet (still waiting for Karyuudo Fansubs to release their subbed version) so I'm uncertain.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Lol, I have that guy; yeah, I don't know any fiction -except the exerpt from the graphic novel, but it could have worked by reflecting his new character; didn't he get a mental work-over due to that new form?

Having watched all of Beast Wars Second yet (still waiting for Karyuudo Fansubs to release their subbed version) so I'm uncertain.

Yeah, I just checked, it basically ramped up his persona really hard. He loathes his beast mode and just wants everyone to die, so I think his new face reflects his mental shift

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Lol, I have that guy; yeah, I don't know any fiction -except the exerpt from the graphic novel, but it could have worked by reflecting his new character; didn't he get a mental work-over due to that new form?

Having watched all of Beast Wars Second yet (still waiting for Karyuudo Fansubs to release their subbed version) so I'm uncertain.

Yeah, I just checked, it basically ramped up his persona really hard. He loathes his beast mode and just wants everyone to die, so I think his new face reflects his mental shift

Ack! There's a typo in my post that changes its meaning completely! "Having" should have been "Haven't".

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Lol, I have that guy; yeah, I don't know any fiction -except the exerpt from the graphic novel, but it could have worked by reflecting his new character; didn't he get a mental work-over due to that new form?

Having watched all of Beast Wars Second yet (still waiting for Karyuudo Fansubs to release their subbed version) so I'm uncertain.

Yeah, I just checked, it basically ramped up his persona really hard. He loathes his beast mode and just wants everyone to die, so I think his new face reflects his mental shift

Ack! There's a typo in my post that changes its meaning completely! "Having" should have been "Haven't".

Yeah, I figured that's what you meant

Chuckdawg must be friends with someone who manages this website. His videos frequently get published on this website before well known TF reviewers on YouTube.

Likeits1985 wrote:

Chuckdawg must be friends with someone who manages this website. His videos frequently get published on this website before well known TF reviewers on YouTube.

To be fair, ANY reviewer that gets a hot-topic figure way before it's release gets a mention. benscollectibles had devs, balt had the minicons, and chuck got starscream; sorry no conspiracy here, try again for a zeni?

-Kanrabat- wrote:Case in point, FOC Jazz VS FOC Sideswipe. Jazz came first, with a lone itsy bitsy tiny gun. Sideswipe was a repaint remold of Jazz, with the head and part of the vehicle remolded. He came with a HUGE-ASS cannon.

About that time, ALL the FoC guys started coming with huge ass guns. Look at the combaticons v. the wreckers. now those are some guns!

william-james88 wrote:Could it be they didnt put the chrome because the last time they did, all the fans started whining? Takara always had chrome on their version and people bought them for the superior deco. Hasbro tries once and "Aint G1, look at Takara, they know what's up, screw Hasbro". So Hasbro said f#$k it, and now here we are without chrome, thanks!

Anyways...

I think it was Chuck that said that it was too bad all the seekers had the same head. Well I am happy becuase last time they decided to make Starscream have a different head than his fellow seekers, it was for the worse:



So hellscream999, would you rather have that seeker head over this one?

Those are some ugly heads, all 3 of them. yeah there is a difference in Starscream, but they all suck, so it's even.
I liked the FoC and Prime head sculpts. those were nice ones. Really good with the character too

Sabrblade wrote:

How bout the head of this Starscream?
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THAT Starscream is Badass! That is a good look for the leader of the seekers!

And Prime Soundwave had an amazing head. That guy had a head and face worthy of the character

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:THAT Starscream is Badass! That is a good look for the leader of the seekers!

And Prime Soundwave had an amazing head. That guy had a head and face worthy of the character

That version is a bit too small for my taste to be considered such an imposing figure.

The Galaxyforce Voyager is to me the the version that looks most like a leader.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Likeits1985 wrote:

Chuckdawg must be friends with someone who manages this website. His videos frequently get published on this website before well known TF reviewers on YouTube.

To be fair, ANY reviewer that gets a hot-topic figure way before it's release gets a mention. benscollectibles had devs, balt had the minicons, and chuck got starscream; sorry no conspiracy here, try again for a zeni?

Also Likeits1985, Chuck was the first one to reach us with a review of that toy. No one else did. If ever you find a review of a new figure we havent newsed yet, please use the link in my signature to contact us. Chuck did and thus he gets the front page First come first served.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:THAT Starscream is Badass! That is a good look for the leader of the seekers!

Though, in reality, he is quite flamboyant and effeminate.

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:THAT Starscream is Badass! That is a good look for the leader of the seekers!

Though, in reality, he is quite flam[b]oyant and effeminate.

I don't know that I'd go that far unless you have something to back it up beyond what could just be an ill-timed screenshot.

jay5 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:THAT Starscream is Badass! That is a good look for the leader of the seekers!

Though, in reality, he is quite flam[b]oyant and effeminate.

I don't know that I'd go that far unless you have something to back it up beyond what could just be an ill-timed screenshot.

Boo. He needs his Prime personality with that body.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:THAT Starscream is Badass! That is a good look for the leader of the seekers!

And Prime Soundwave had an amazing head. That guy had a head and face worthy of the character

That version is a bit too small for my taste to be considered such an imposing figure.

The Galaxyforce Voyager is to me the the version that looks most like a leader.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Likeits1985 wrote:

Chuckdawg must be friends with someone who manages this website. His videos frequently get published on this website before well known TF reviewers on YouTube.

To be fair, ANY reviewer that gets a hot-topic figure way before it's release gets a mention. benscollectibles had devs, balt had the minicons, and chuck got starscream; sorry no conspiracy here, try again for a zeni?

Also Likeits1985, Chuck was the first one to reach us with a review of that toy. No one else did. If ever you find a review of a new figure we havent newsed yet, please use the link in my signature to contact us. Chuck did and thus he gets the front page First come first served.

Exactly. Say are you Burn, Vaal, and the guys coming to over for my BBQ this weekend?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Exactly. Say are you Burn, Vaal, and the guys coming to over for my BBQ this weekend?

Don't know, I was gonna use that bribe money inheritance from my estranged uncle to take my wife to the spa as a week-end getaway. But I could always do that the week-end after.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:THAT Starscream is Badass! That is a good look for the leader of the seekers!

And Prime Soundwave had an amazing head. That guy had a head and face worthy of the character

That version is a bit too small for my taste to be considered such an imposing figure.

The Galaxyforce Voyager is to me the the version that looks most like a leader.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Likeits1985 wrote:

Chuckdawg must be friends with someone who manages this website. His videos frequently get published on this website before well known TF reviewers on YouTube.

To be fair, ANY reviewer that gets a hot-topic figure way before it's release gets a mention. benscollectibles had devs, balt had the minicons, and chuck got starscream; sorry no conspiracy here, try again for a zeni?

Also Likeits1985, Chuck was the first one to reach us with a review of that toy. No one else did. If ever you find a review of a new figure we havent newsed yet, please use the link in my signature to contact us. Chuck did and thus he gets the front page First come first served.

Exactly. Say are you Burn, Vaal, and the guys coming to over for my BBQ this weekend?

Clearly my invite got lost in the mail, or you just didn't send it.

Asshole.

Probably one of those Va'al Fanboys.

Burn wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:THAT Starscream is Badass! That is a good look for the leader of the seekers!

And Prime Soundwave had an amazing head. That guy had a head and face worthy of the character

That version is a bit too small for my taste to be considered such an imposing figure.

The Galaxyforce Voyager is to me the the version that looks most like a leader.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Likeits1985 wrote:

Chuckdawg must be friends with someone who manages this website. His videos frequently get published on this website before well known TF reviewers on YouTube.

To be fair, ANY reviewer that gets a hot-topic figure way before it's release gets a mention. benscollectibles had devs, balt had the minicons, and chuck got starscream; sorry no conspiracy here, try again for a zeni?

Also Likeits1985, Chuck was the first one to reach us with a review of that toy. No one else did. If ever you find a review of a new figure we havent newsed yet, please use the link in my signature to contact us. Chuck did and thus he gets the front page First come first served.

Exactly. Say are you Burn, Vaal, and the guys coming to over for my BBQ this weekend?

Clearly my invite got lost in the mail, or you just didn't send it.

****.

Probably one of those Va'al Fanboys.

I love you all equally, you know that. By the way, Starscreams chest is the face of an Angry Bird. Once you see it, it can't be unseen. You're welcome.

I'm waiting on the Sunstorm repaint of the CW Leader seeker. Yes, I know I'm in the extreme minority.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I'm waiting on the Sunstorm repaint of the CW Leader seeker. Yes, I know I'm in the extreme minority.

I'm waiting for the Acid Storm repaint. I'm not the only one, right?

I managed to find this guy over the weekend. My first Generations Leader figure, and he's a great one!

Leader class Megatron on clearance at Walmart.

Really behind the curve here, but I finally got Megs! Love this guy so much! He is great!! He and Magnus make a great pair with my Lost Lighters in either mode, and yes I did the whole Autobot symbol on him. Also put that Fusion cannon sticker on that big spot on his chest to fill it out and it works so well. I'm excited. Now, Rodimus?? Please??

I love Megs also. Both G1 and the Armada one

So, I really dig Leader TC. But something was bugging me. You're supposed to see the top side of his wings in bot mode, and that bit of red really helps breaking up ALL that blue. So I unscrewed the wings and switched them around! It doesn't really compromise anything and they can easily be flipped back. But since I plan to display the Leader Seekers in bot mode I'll do this to all them and leave them like that. I really like the results

shajaki wrote:So, I really dig Leader TC. But something was bugging me. You're supposed to see the top side of his wings in bot mode, and that bit of red really helps breaking up ALL that blue. So I unscrewed the wings and switched them around! It doesn't really compromise anything and they can easily be flipped back. But since I plan to display the Leader Seekers in bot mode I'll do this to all them and leave them like that. I really like the results

That looks really great.

carytheone wrote:

shajaki wrote:So, I really dig Leader TC. But something was bugging me. You're supposed to see the top side of his wings in bot mode, and that bit of red really helps breaking up ALL that blue. So I unscrewed the wings and switched them around! It doesn't really compromise anything and they can easily be flipped back. But since I plan to display the Leader Seekers in bot mode I'll do this to all them and leave them like that. I really like the results

That looks really great.

Seconded, great idea, I might end up doing the same when they appear in Australia.

carytheone wrote:

shajaki wrote:So, I really dig Leader TC. But something was bugging me. You're supposed to see the top side of his wings in bot mode, and that bit of red really helps breaking up ALL that blue. So I unscrewed the wings and switched them around! It doesn't really compromise anything and they can easily be flipped back. But since I plan to display the Leader Seekers in bot mode I'll do this to all them and leave them like that. I really like the results

That looks really great.

I agree. I should try it sometime

carytheone wrote:

shajaki wrote:So, I really dig Leader TC. But something was bugging me. You're supposed to see the top side of his wings in bot mode, and that bit of red really helps breaking up ALL that blue. So I unscrewed the wings and switched them around! It doesn't really compromise anything and they can easily be flipped back. But since I plan to display the Leader Seekers in bot mode I'll do this to all them and leave them like that. I really like the results

That looks really great.

Ya did a good jorb Shaj! Looks more like what we are used to with the seekers

itscramtastic wrote:

carytheone wrote:

shajaki wrote:So, I really dig Leader TC. But something was bugging me. You're supposed to see the top side of his wings in bot mode, and that bit of red really helps breaking up ALL that blue. So I unscrewed the wings and switched them around! It doesn't really compromise anything and they can easily be flipped back. But since I plan to display the Leader Seekers in bot mode I'll do this to all them and leave them like that. I really like the results

That looks really great.

Ya did a good jorb Shaj! Looks more like what we are used to with the seekers

Approved Great discovery man!

Wished I'd have snapped a picture, but anybody else come across CW Leader Ultra Magnus in the wild? I found him at a Target on the NW side of the Twin Cities in MN...