First Look at Transformers Titans Return Alpha Trion Head Master Sovereign
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Posted by william-james88 on March 10th, 2016 @ 9:08am CST
Autobot N wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:speaking of Alpha Trion! i wonder why they're going with the Vector Prime mold, instead of the IDW(Tumbler) one?
Because a Triple-Changer Jet/Lion thing is way cooler?
No, its because they are homaging the other 2 transforming alpha trion toys that were thought up before.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Alpha_Trion_(G1)#Toys
Posted by Autobot N on March 10th, 2016 @ 9:44am CST
william-james88 wrote:Autobot N wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:speaking of Alpha Trion! i wonder why they're going with the Vector Prime mold, instead of the IDW(Tumbler) one?
Because a Triple-Changer Jet/Lion thing is way cooler?
No, its because they are homaging the other 2 transforming alpha trion toys that were thought up before.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Alpha_Trion_(G1)#Toys
Fixed your link.
My point still applies, though.
Posted by william-james88 on March 10th, 2016 @ 9:58am CST
Autobot N wrote:william-james88 wrote:Autobot N wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:speaking of Alpha Trion! i wonder why they're going with the Vector Prime mold, instead of the IDW(Tumbler) one?
Because a Triple-Changer Jet/Lion thing is way cooler?
No, its because they are homaging the other 2 transforming alpha trion toys that were thought up before.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Alpha_Trion_(G1)#Toys
Fixed your link.
My point still applies, though.
I thought you were asking a question. You ended your reply with a question mark.
Posted by Autobot N on March 10th, 2016 @ 10:00am CST
william-james88 wrote:Autobot N wrote:william-james88 wrote:Autobot N wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:speaking of Alpha Trion! i wonder why they're going with the Vector Prime mold, instead of the IDW(Tumbler) one?
Because a Triple-Changer Jet/Lion thing is way cooler?
No, its because they are homaging the other 2 transforming alpha trion toys that were thought up before.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Alpha_Trion_(G1)#Toys
Fixed your link.
My point still applies, though.
I thought you were asking a question. You ended your reply with a question mark.
It was a combination of suggesting a potential reply and taking a guess.
Posted by Down_Shift on March 10th, 2016 @ 10:10am CST
The rest of that image has both of Trions alt modes, and cross sells for Brawn, Chromedome, Astrotrain, and Soudnwave.
Posted by Autobot N on March 10th, 2016 @ 10:13am CST
Down_Shift wrote:I'm surprised that's all they showed.
The rest of that image has both of Trions alt modes, and cross sells for Brawn, Chromedome, Astrotrain, and Soundwave.
Remember, this is zmultiplier we're talking about.
Posted by william-james88 on March 10th, 2016 @ 10:24am CST
Down_Shift wrote:I'm surprised that's all they showed.
The rest of that image has both of Trions alt modes, and cross sells for Brawn, Chromedome, Astrotrain, and Soudnwave.
I really wish we saw the rest I am so curious to see how such different altmodes can work on one toy.
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 10th, 2016 @ 10:33am CST
Secondly, lookin good there sovereign, seems like he really us a mini alpha trion, well as much as I can make out anyway.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 10th, 2016 @ 10:41am CST
Posted by Microraptor on March 10th, 2016 @ 10:54am CST
Down_Shift wrote:I'm surprised that's all they showed.
The rest of that image has both of Trions alt modes, and cross sells for Brawn, Chromedome, Astrotrain, and Soudnwave.
Do you have the pics?
Posted by Generator_G1 on March 10th, 2016 @ 8:25pm CST
Posted by Cobotron on March 10th, 2016 @ 8:29pm CST
I wanna see Alpha T!
Posted by Generator_G1 on March 10th, 2016 @ 8:51pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on March 10th, 2016 @ 8:57pm CST
Generator_G1 wrote:Oh and he transforms in 17 steps...
Thats nice and hearty!
Do you see a lot of the wolf in the space ship mold and vice versa?
Posted by Autobot N on March 10th, 2016 @ 9:01pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Generator_G1 wrote:Oh and he transforms in 17 steps...
Thats nice and hearty!
Do you see a lot of the wolf in the space ship mold and vice versa?
IT'S A FRICKIN LION!!!!!!
Posted by Generator_G1 on March 10th, 2016 @ 9:15pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Generator_G1 wrote:Oh and he transforms in 17 steps...
Thats nice and hearty!
Do you see a lot of the wolf in the space ship mold and vice versa?
Lion. You can see his silver mane quite clearly.
Posted by william-james88 on March 10th, 2016 @ 9:22pm CST
Generator_G1 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Generator_G1 wrote:Oh and he transforms in 17 steps...
Thats nice and hearty!
Do you see a lot of the wolf in the space ship mold and vice versa?
Lion. You can see his silver mane quite clearly.
That doesnt answer my question. What is puzzling me with this guy is how different the two alt modes are. Does it show that they conflict with eachother?
Posted by Generator_G1 on March 10th, 2016 @ 9:49pm CST
Because of this he does have short hind legs unlike a RL lion.
Posted by Agamemnon on March 10th, 2016 @ 11:09pm CST
Generator_G1 wrote:From what I can tell, A3's legs form the front of the spaceship and the hindquarters of the lion. his top half forms the rear of the ship and the front legs / head of the lion (arms become the front legs).
Because of this he does have short hind legs unlike a RL lion.
So...more of a hyena?
Posted by Generator_G1 on March 10th, 2016 @ 11:40pm CST
His shoulders are higher than his hips because that is where the cockpit is in lion mode.
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 11th, 2016 @ 3:01am CST
Posted by Generator_G1 on March 11th, 2016 @ 3:18am CST
Posted by Down_Shift on March 11th, 2016 @ 7:51am CST
Generator_G1 wrote:From what I can tell, A3's legs form the front of the spaceship and the hindquarters of the lion. his top half forms the rear of the ship and the front legs / head of the lion (arms become the front legs).
Because of this he does have short hind legs unlike a RL lion.
It's an odd spaceship mode. The two halves of the lion/unicorn (or "Lionicorn") head are tucked away at the back of the ship mode. From the front it looks okay, but from behind it doesn't look very good. The animal mode is the weakest of the three. From the pictures I've seen it has like, zero articulation, and the sword tail looks silly. I mean, as silly as a purple and pink space ship lion-thingy can look.
Posted by Down_Shift on March 11th, 2016 @ 7:56am CST
Generator_G1 wrote:No rumors this episode.
I got some new pics and info last night, I'm sure you will too shortly.
Posted by steals_your_goats on March 11th, 2016 @ 8:08am CST
Down_Shift wrote:Generator_G1 wrote:No rumors this episode.
I got some new pics and info last night, I'm sure you will too shortly.
That doesn't help the rest of us damnit!!
Posted by william-james88 on March 11th, 2016 @ 8:11am CST
Generator_G1 wrote:From what I can tell, A3's legs form the front of the spaceship and the hindquarters of the lion. his top half forms the rear of the ship and the front legs / head of the lion (arms become the front legs).
The arms become the front legs? Thats a bit odd since we can see his front legs at the bottom of his torso and they are independent of his arms.
Posted by william-james88 on March 11th, 2016 @ 8:14am CST
Posted by Agamemnon on March 11th, 2016 @ 8:34am CST
william-james88 wrote:Also, I totally see tha ship now. Its not a big transformation from the robot mode, you just tab the legs together and tuck the arms inward and you can see a very triangular ship forming with a narrow nose and a back which fans out due to the lion heads that end with a wing/unicorn. Where is the cockpit though, can anyone point it out in the robot mode art I posted?
I'm guessing the cockpit is on the back
Posted by Down_Shift on March 11th, 2016 @ 8:38am CST
Posted by Lunatic Prime on March 11th, 2016 @ 8:46am CST
Agamemnon wrote:william-james88 wrote:Also, I totally see tha ship now. Its not a big transformation from the robot mode, you just tab the legs together and tuck the arms inward and you can see a very triangular ship forming with a narrow nose and a back which fans out due to the lion heads that end with a wing/unicorn. Where is the cockpit though, can anyone point it out in the robot mode art I posted?
I'm guessing the cockpit is on the back
Or in the chest. Kinda like Skullsmasher's.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2016 @ 10:06am CST
In all honesty, I still wish MP Star Saber had been bigger than it was. Not Titan class-sized, mind you, but more Supreme class-sized like Armada Unicron or something. Star Saber's inner Saber robot should have been bigger, closer to the size of MP-10.DigitalBrave3 wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:A titan Star Saber makes no sense to me. If anything, he should be leader class. They managed to have a whole secondary transforming bot inside Magnus to homage the comics, so why couldn't they pull off the whole Star Saber thing
I agree, there is absolutely o reason that Star Saber should be a Titan Class figure. Leader Class is the most fitting choice for Star Saber.
That would basically just be a slightly more red redeco of Classics Jetfire.Stuartmaximus wrote:Chainclaw1976 wrote:I like big bots, and I can not lie.
speaking of which.....how about Jetfire & the Superjets! & YES! they're from G1 continuity
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Autobot_superjet
When fans asked Hasbro at SDCC 2013 about the possibility of Metroplex being redecoed into Metrotitan, Hasbro's reaction was "Who?" Hasbro didn't know about Metrotitan.Chainclaw1976 wrote:But I'm surprised Hasbro hasn't recolored Generations Metroplex into a Metrotitan. Seems like it would sell. Especially when there are fans (like me) who are forking out the cash to own the less articulated 30 year old figure. :/
There's a point to be made about when the Universe and Generartions lines did non-G1 characters vs when they did only G1 characters.Hellscream9999 wrote:Universe 2.0, classics, gen, it's all the same thing - or not, guess that's why the gen line sucks and univ 2.0 was so awesome
Universe in its first year, 2008, was like a continuation of Classics as it only had G1 characters. In its second year, 2009, however, it did characters from several series, but that was because 2009 was the 25th anniversary year.
Likewise, Generations in its first two years, 2010-2011, did four WFC characters and then nothing but G1 characters (with a small few of the G1 characters having some IDW influence in their designs). In its third and fourth years, 2012-2013, it did only FOC characters, and then finally in late 2013 to all of 2014 did it do multi-series characters. But like with Universe's second year, 2014 was the 30th anniversary year.
For both lines, only when there was an anniversary year in effect did each line make toys from all kinds of non-G1 series. Before and after those years, though, they only did G1 characters (or strongly G1-influenced characters, in regards to the WFC/FOC toys). Therefore, it stands to reason that the wider selection of toys produced during the two anniversary years were the exceptions to the norm, instead of the norm itself.
Has it been seen yet?Generator_G1 wrote:Nobody posted yet A3's battleship mode which looks like the SDF-1 from Macross yet?
It seems that Sovereign's robot mode design is sculpted as a homage to the robot mode design of Cybertron Safeguard, furthering the speculation of a Vector Prime toy being made from Alpha Trion's mold.
Where has the full image been seen?Down_Shift wrote:I'm surprised that's all they showed.
The rest of that image has both of Trions alt modes, and cross sells for Brawn, Chromedome, Astrotrain, and Soudnwave.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 11th, 2016 @ 1:00pm CST
Posted by Down_Shift on March 11th, 2016 @ 1:32pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Where has the full image been seen?
To my knowledge, nowhere. Not publicly anyway.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2016 @ 1:49pm CST
How'd you see it? You got insider connections or something?Down_Shift wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Where has the full image been seen?
To my knowledge, nowhere. Not publicly anyway.
Posted by william-james88 on March 11th, 2016 @ 1:59pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:How'd you see it? You got insider connections or something?Down_Shift wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Where has the full image been seen?
To my knowledge, nowhere. Not publicly anyway.
How about we dont pester the guy. Obviously, he has connections we dont, must we know more? I mean its not like he's at the liberty of showing us the pics. Lets just be glad we have another person like Chainclaw who is willing to answer some of our questions to tide us over the eventual reveal.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2016 @ 2:03pm CST
I didn't know he had connections. He sounded like pics had been seen here before, which confused me, so I asked out of curiosity. That is all.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:How'd you see it? You got insider connections or something?Down_Shift wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Where has the full image been seen?
To my knowledge, nowhere. Not publicly anyway.
How about we dont pester the guy. Obviously, he has connections we dont, must we know more? I mean its not like he's at the liberty of showing us the pics. Lets just be glad we have another person like Chainclaw who is willing to answer some of our questions to tide us over the eventual reveal.
Posted by william-james88 on March 11th, 2016 @ 2:13pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:I didn't know he had connections. He sounded like pics had been seen here before, which confused me, so I asked out of curiosity. Nothing more.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:How'd you see it? You got insider connections or something?Down_Shift wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Where has the full image been seen?
To my knowledge, nowhere. Not publicly anyway.
How about we dont pester the guy. Obviously, he has connections we dont, must we know more? I mean its not like he's at the liberty of showing us the pics. Lets just be glad we have another person like Chainclaw who is willing to answer some of our questions to tide us over the eventual reveal.
Thats not true, he answered that the picutres werent public, so right there its where it stops. there was no need for you to further ask what his connection is once he said the image had not been found elsewhere, that was the pestering.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2016 @ 2:15pm CST
I don't want to know what his connections are. That he has any is enough clarification for my confusion. All is clear and understood now.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I didn't know he had connections. He sounded like pics had been seen here before, which confused me, so I asked out of curiosity. Nothing more.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:How'd you see it? You got insider connections or something?Down_Shift wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Where has the full image been seen?
To my knowledge, nowhere. Not publicly anyway.
How about we dont pester the guy. Obviously, he has connections we dont, must we know more? I mean its not like he's at the liberty of showing us the pics. Lets just be glad we have another person like Chainclaw who is willing to answer some of our questions to tide us over the eventual reveal.
Thats not true, he answered that the picutres werent public, so right there its where it stops. there was no need for you to further ask what his connection is once he said the image had not been found elsewhere, that was the pestering.
Posted by Collector Canine on March 15th, 2016 @ 5:52pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on March 15th, 2016 @ 7:04pm CDT
DigitalBrave3 wrote: Also, it is probably just a prototype. Maybe the final production version will have a painted face? Well, we'll just have to wait and see.
I doubt it. If anything, the final products usually have less paint than the shown hasbro prototypes.
Posted by Collector Canine on March 15th, 2016 @ 9:03pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:DigitalBrave3 wrote: Also, it is probably just a prototype. Maybe the final production version will have a painted face? Well, we'll just have to wait and see.
I doubt it. If anything, the final products usually have less paint than the shown hasbro prototypes.
That's actually very true. I honestly can't think of an instance where the final looked as good as or better than the prototype. That was just wishful thinking on my part.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 16th, 2016 @ 12:45am CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on March 16th, 2016 @ 6:01am CDT
Posted by YoungPrime on March 16th, 2016 @ 7:11am CDT
In any case it's a pass regardless. My PE Rumble and Frenzy and MP Laserbeak and Buzzsaw fit my collections fine.
Posted by fenrir72 on March 16th, 2016 @ 8:44am CDT
Posted by Cobotron on March 16th, 2016 @ 9:11am CDT
Man, he looks AWESOME!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 16th, 2016 @ 9:11am CDT
Posted by mblase75 on March 16th, 2016 @ 9:44am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 16th, 2016 @ 10:00am CDT