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First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap

Transformers News: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap

Monday, June 8th, 2020 12:04AM CDT

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We thank Wireless_Phantom for letting us know of a post on Twitter from ARCTIC_ST0RM who posted a photo of two yellow Transformers using the Earthrise Cliffjumper mold. The one face up has the Hubcap headsculpt. There was a rumour for Hubcap (and Bumblebee) and this seems to be the it. This toy should end up being relreased thorugh the Generations selects line, which has been non exclusive for the most part (meaning several retailers sell these toys online). For those wondering who Hupcap is, this was a G1 toy that was also a yellow redeco of Cliffjumper with a new head (and no spoiler in the back). We included some images of Hubcap below if you want to see more of that odd and confusing G1 toy.

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Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2067191)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 8th, 2020 @ 3:11am CDT
Now to settle the question of if the bot lying face down is hubcap, or bee himself. The head looks like it has tiny horns
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2067192)
Posted by Summoner on June 8th, 2020 @ 3:34am CDT
Poor old Hubcap. Always the forgotten Minibot. Even Wheelie gets more love!
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2067201)
Posted by Flashwave on June 8th, 2020 @ 6:20am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Now to settle the question of if the bot lying face down is hubcap, or bee himself. The head looks like it has tiny horns

ThT is 100% Hubby. You are seeing his headcrest.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2067205)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 8th, 2020 @ 6:43am CDT
Flashwave wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Now to settle the question of if the bot lying face down is hubcap, or bee himself. The head looks like it has tiny horns

ThT is 100% Hubby. You are seeing his headcrest.

I'm not sure the head crest would look like that from behind.. But we'll find out in good time.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2067240)
Posted by william-james88 on June 8th, 2020 @ 10:46am CDT
Summoner wrote:Poor old Hubcap. Always the forgotten Minibot. Even Wheelie gets more love!

But doesn't this release show he is no longer forgotten?
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2067254)
Posted by Summoner on June 8th, 2020 @ 1:15pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 8th, 2020 @ 10:46am CDT
Summoner wrote:
Poor old Hubcap. Always the forgotten Minibot. Even Wheelie gets more love!

But doesn't this release show he is no longer forgotten?


Well no, because he is the only one left of the G1 Minibots. Picked from the line last :(
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2067279)
Posted by Skritz on June 8th, 2020 @ 7:04pm CDT
I've finally complete Piranacon/King Poseidon. Sadly still can't ship it yet but oh well. The seafood special is finished at last!
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2067304)
Posted by Emerje on June 9th, 2020 @ 12:26am CDT
Sure would be nice if these were stolen from factories by actual Transformers fans that know how to take good photos and not by people that are just trying to flip these for a quick buck from minimum effort. ;)

Emerje
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2067368)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2020 @ 6:45pm CDT
Last week, I finally shipped my last two Seacons from TFSource, along with a Legends Blue Big Convoy and an Earthrise Smashdown to get the free shipping.

After having finally opened all six of my Seacons both last night and night before last, I've now completed putting together my King Poseidon today. And boy is he a beast!

I managed to get him in a standing pose while holding all three of his main weapons: His combined sword, his combined gun, and Overbite in gun mode. With Overbite connected to his right fist, I put the sword in the same hand while his combined gun is held in his left hand.

This Selects combiner just feels so much more massive and heftier than most other CW/UW/Potpie-styled combiners that the higher price seems all the more warranted. So many accessories, so much bulk, this guy is CHUNKY!
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Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2067408)
Posted by RacerCheetor on June 10th, 2020 @ 9:26am CDT
One more image of God Neptune from the Transformers Twitter in Japan.

https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1270531179448426496

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Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2067455)
Posted by Skritz on June 10th, 2020 @ 4:36pm CDT
The Legends comics might be pure fanfic-grade insanity but there is no denying that the Super/Ultra Megatron is definitely one of the dopest design out there and every time I see pics of it I'm reminded of this fact and how much of a good pick that mold was, once properly retooled. TR Galvatron was a cruelly underrated mold which got a lot of flak due to its poorly implemented headmaster integration and the flip out mask (especially as later TR offering showed a better helmet setup). That much is true. However I do think it has a certain super robot esthetic to it that Super Megatron help bring to the table and his nonsense power up and kibble variations are just icing on an already cool cake.

Sure he's not for everyone, especially if you're someone who dislike 'cybertronian' modes. But me? He hits all the right buttons and I suspect the only thing I will hate about him is that QC or mold degradation might cause some floppy legs. Or not, given the TR mold was only used for Galvatron previously.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2067503)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on June 11th, 2020 @ 11:25am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Summoner wrote:Poor old Hubcap. Always the forgotten Minibot. Even Wheelie gets more love!

But doesn't this release show he is no longer forgotten?

Now Bumble Jumper is the poor forgotten minibot...
Although in Gen 2 they released Hubcap in Red instead of Cliff Jumper.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2067640)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 12th, 2020 @ 12:43pm CDT
Rodimus Knight wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Summoner wrote:Poor old Hubcap. Always the forgotten Minibot. Even Wheelie gets more love!

But doesn't this release show he is no longer forgotten?

Now Bumble Jumper is the poor forgotten minibot...
Although in Gen 2 they released Hubcap in Red instead of Cliff Jumper.


Bumper (aka "Bumblejumper") wasn't even acknowledged until the Dreamwave Comics... In the US that is. In Brazil, he was a confirmed release, so...
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2067663)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on June 12th, 2020 @ 3:11pm CDT
Ironically, I'll probably get Hubcap before I get Cliffjumper or Bumblebee since I'm pretty satisfied with the versions I already have.

Gotta say, all the pics of Super Megatron convinced me to preorder him. Still may change my mind, though. He does seem pretty sweet.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068062)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on June 15th, 2020 @ 12:46pm CDT
I didn't know where to direct this question but what from Transformers are expected from SDCC 2020? If it was already announced I clearly missed it. BBTS has been posting more SDCC items in the past days so I was curious. Sorry again if this as already announced! :HEADHURTS: :VEHI:
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 15th, 2020 @ 1:01pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:I didn't know where to direct this question but what from Transformers are expected from SDCC 2020? If it was already announced I clearly missed it. BBTS has been posting more SDCC items in the past days so I was curious. Sorry again if this as already announced! :HEADHURTS: :VEHI:


SDCC was canceled before any exclusives were announced, but we suspect that that grey ER "Sleep Mode" Optimus Prime was one of them.

If it truly was... pretty ironic if you think about it :-?
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068068)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on June 15th, 2020 @ 1:05pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:I didn't know where to direct this question but what from Transformers are expected from SDCC 2020? If it was already announced I clearly missed it. BBTS has been posting more SDCC items in the past days so I was curious. Sorry again if this as already announced! :HEADHURTS: :VEHI:


SDCC was canceled before any exclusives were announced, but we suspect that that grey ER "Sleep Mode" Optimus Prime was one of them.

If it truly was... pretty ironic if you think about it :-?



Indeed....thanks JelZe! :VEHI:
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068071)
Posted by o.supreme on June 15th, 2020 @ 1:28pm CDT
SDCC is continuing in a fashion of sorts, by inviting fans to go online during the previously scheduled dates as many panels will be streamed live online. Whether or not Hasbro plans to have a panel for this event is unknown at this time. I'm sure there will be some SDCC exclusive toys, but they also are TBD. The sleep mode Optimus is a good guess, but as for the rest, it hasn't been revealed yet.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068075)
Posted by Skritz on June 15th, 2020 @ 1:42pm CDT
So what do you guys think? Will we see any SDCC exclusive and will they be released online?
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068084)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on June 15th, 2020 @ 2:31pm CDT
I thought leaks said we were supposed to get a GI Joe/Transformers set of some kind for SDCC, and Dead Prime was supposed to be an Amazon exclusive?
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068207)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 16th, 2020 @ 4:46pm CDT
I think the classified series snake eyes that was sold on pulse was going to be a SDCC exclusive.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068209)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on June 16th, 2020 @ 4:56pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think the classified series snake eyes that was sold on pulse was going to be a SDCC exclusive.

Nah, that was up for sale before anyone was remotely sure about SDCC being cancelled. I think the brighter-blue-and-more-gold variant of the Cobra Commander they just revealed as a "TheNTWRK" exclusive was gonna be the Joe SDCC exclusive.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068234)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 16th, 2020 @ 9:17pm CDT
I won this guy is a free spin game in a gaming Facebook page, super stoked to have a Seacon! He'll stand separate from my other 6 seacons once they arrive, he's gonna be my Battle Core Prime's buddy. and he'll be the start of a team built up from exclusive figures to form a sweet Prime combiner. Not sure when I'll finish the team, but they'll all be harder to find figures, and preferably ones that cover the 4 factions.

But, for now, it's awesome to have a seacon, to win a game, and have a Savage Sharkclaw mode!

As for Overbite himself, he's a pretty cool. He is a good retool of Rippersnapper, and the walking shark mode is pretty neat. I love the colors on him, and the amount of accessories is cool. He feels much more premium than other combiner limbs of late, and the hand that he comes with is also really good. Overall nothing really to complain about!

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Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068347)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on June 17th, 2020 @ 11:23pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:But, for now, it's awesome to have a seacon, to win a game, and have a Savage Sharkclaw mode!
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And now I want to go back and pick up one of the CW Prime molds to try this :lol:
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068395)
Posted by Skritz on June 18th, 2020 @ 11:07am CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:But, for now, it's awesome to have a seacon, to win a game, and have a Savage Sharkclaw mode!
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And now I want to go back and pick up one of the CW Prime molds to try this :lol:


Shame we don't have a deluxe CW compatible lion. Then we could see a modern Leobreaker.
SAVAGE CLAW MODE!!!
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068495)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 18th, 2020 @ 7:51pm CDT
I've always loved this configuration for Prime. I wish the slot was a little farther back, it would look more natural, but it still works, and gives us a great look at what a modern Savage Claw mode could be!
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068555)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 19th, 2020 @ 8:54am CDT
Greetings Seibertronians! The folks over at the Autobase Aichi Blog have posted several images of interest over on their twitter feed. These are new images of the forthcoming Generations Selects figure, Hubcap! We got a glimpse of Hubcap a few weeks ago but these images give us a much better look at him.

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That's not all though, as these images were taken from a brand new video review of Hubcap! The reviewer was Jon Toys Reviews on YouTube and we've included the review for you below to check out.



Hubcap is a new redeco of Earthrise Cliffjumper sporting a new head.

Will this be your first chance at the Cliffjumper mold? Has Cliffjumper made such an impact on you that you want to track down Hubcap? Or are you just wanting a new representation of this old minibot? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068559)
Posted by Skritz on June 19th, 2020 @ 9:41am CDT
Still a bit shocked this isn't Bumblebee...but Hubcap.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068560)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on June 19th, 2020 @ 9:41am CDT
Hubcap actually looks better than I expected him to. The initial leak made me think the yellows would be way too different, but it looks like they've done a better job than I thought
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068561)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on June 19th, 2020 @ 9:52am CDT
If find it interesting that they are using part of Brunt for the gun, I wonder if any other grey pieces of him will show up elsewhere.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068563)
Posted by leokearon on June 19th, 2020 @ 10:32am CDT
Hubcap was my first TF and and new version would be cool. But I'll probably pass sinc eit is likely they will charge Deluxe Selects money for a scout class
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068565)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on June 19th, 2020 @ 10:52am CDT
Something's throwing me off about Hubcap's head. It almost looks like it's 3d printed. Hopefully this means we'll be getting more minibots.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068566)
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2020 @ 11:01am CDT
Skritz wrote:Still a bit shocked this isn't Bumblebee...but Hubcap.


We've known all along that hasbro wasn't gonna use the same exact mold for both Bee and Cliff, they said that when Cliff was first revealed.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068585)
Posted by kirbenvost on June 19th, 2020 @ 3:29pm CDT
I really like his head! I wasn't planning on picking up another version of this mold, though I love Cliffjumper. This has me reconsidering.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068587)
Posted by Emerje on June 19th, 2020 @ 3:39pm CDT
leokearon wrote:Hubcap was my first TF and and new version would be cool. But I'll probably pass sinc eit is likely they will charge Deluxe Selects money for a scout class

The Deluxe Selects price is the same as Deluxe retail price. The figure is way better than Scout/Legends class, much more complex engineering-wise, it belongs at a Deluxe price point despite being a short figure.

Emerje
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068591)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 19th, 2020 @ 3:56pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
leokearon wrote:Hubcap was my first TF and and new version would be cool. But I'll probably pass sinc eit is likely they will charge Deluxe Selects money for a scout class

The Deluxe Selects price is the same as Deluxe retail price. The figure is way better than Scout/Legends class, much more complex engineering-wise, it belongs at a Deluxe price point despite being a short figure.

Emerje

I wish people would stop using height to judge size class.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068592)
Posted by o.supreme on June 19th, 2020 @ 4:00pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I wish people would stop using height to judge size class.


It takes time, even I have been guilty at times, and fall back into that mode occasionally. Has there been a universally accepted "standard" of what designates a particular price point, or class? I've seen people talk about mass and/or parts count before, but this is a niche argument that needs to be made far more mainstream if this is the case.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068594)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 19th, 2020 @ 4:07pm CDT
I always thought it was amount of plastic that went into it (hence why taller figures were more hollow) though it could be argued that I was deluding myself. There probably isn't an official standard
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068599)
Posted by Flashwave on June 19th, 2020 @ 4:56pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I wish people would stop using height to judge size class.


It takes time, even I have been guilty at times, and fall back into that mode occasionally. Has there been a universally accepted "standard" of what designates a particular price point, or class? I've seen people talk about mass and/or parts count before, but this is a niche argument that needs to be made far more mainstream if this is the case.

That has always been the case as far back as I can remember, parts and materials costs. That's why we never got Breakdown in Transformers Prime. Only, it used to be that the budget was locked down to per figure, with each toy getting an equal part of the budget for the wave. In Energon, Hasbro told us that we had a choice of 3 of the Combiners with two seperate limb molds each or 2 combiners with 3 limb sets and thry went woth more characters. The argument of "size" comes from toys all roughly having the same amount of mass as each other given that they have the same materials cap, (and Hasbto has never been forthcoming about what that cap is) and as materials got more expensive, figures got smaller, but smaller proportunate to their own wave. It was not until recently when Hasbro removed the "per figure" budget cap and allowed for less complex figures to share excess parts hudget with other, more complex figures of the same price point. And thats how we get exampmes of Cliffjumper alongside guys like Hoist or Siege Itonhide.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068600)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 19th, 2020 @ 5:03pm CDT
Isn't Cliffjumper more complex then those whose size he relates to though? All the reports I've read that while not 'Deluxe' height he feels more like a deluxe in hand.
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Posted by aronjlove on June 19th, 2020 @ 5:36pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Isn't Cliffjumper more complex then those whose size he relates to though? All the reports I've read that while not 'Deluxe' height he feels more like a deluxe in hand.
All the legends class cars from Prime Wars had basically the same transformation: fall on their face, tuck in their arms, then flip back their legs. Maybe fold down a hood. Then rinse and repeat. Cliffjumper is complex enough it takes a moment to remember what to do if I haven't messed with him in a while. And the partsforming gives him a shield and a massive cannon or two pistols. The Legends class figures I have did not come with any accessories.
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Posted by Flashwave on June 19th, 2020 @ 6:42pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Isn't Cliffjumper more complex then those whose size he relates to though? All the reports I've read that while not 'Deluxe' height he feels more like a deluxe in hand.

That's exactly the point though, in some ways Cliff jumpers more complex than hoist, even though voice is twice the size
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068612)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 19th, 2020 @ 6:44pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Isn't Cliffjumper more complex then those whose size he relates to though? All the reports I've read that while not 'Deluxe' height he feels more like a deluxe in hand.

That's exactly the point though, in some ways Cliff jumpers more complex than hoist, even though voice is twice the size

Ah I see! I thought you were arguing the opposite ;)^ My fault
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068614)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 19th, 2020 @ 7:02pm CDT
You thought it would be Bumblebee, but it was I, Dio Hubcap!
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Posted by blackeyedprime on June 19th, 2020 @ 8:18pm CDT
leokearon wrote:Hubcap was my first TF and and new version would be cool. But I'll probably pass sinc eit is likely they will charge Deluxe Selects money for a scout class


I'm the same. Only picked up cliff jumper because of a discount. In hand, he still doesn't feel like a deluxe (other than his joints) but it really wouldn't considering deluxe classics cliff jumper and comparing it to rts windcharger that was legends price that has some clever engineering/play (better ankle tilt and feet by far).

Maybe earth rise cliff jumper/hubcap could have been legends price with ball joints but I won't pretend to understand Hasbros pricing/production or laughable excuses made for it but people pay the same price for a 50g bag of chips as a 100g bag of chips :( if it works for food then why not toys :/
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Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 20th, 2020 @ 12:20am CDT
1. The Legends/neo-Scout size class is on hiatus because of Micromasters occupying the price point
2. Ball joints are too feeble for the C.O.M.B.A.T. system. They just can't take the weight as well. Especially not ball-joint elbows and hips.
3. Cliffjumper has the mass of a Deluxe (which kiiiiinda undercuts what you said about 50g vs. 100g bags of chips), and comes with accessories - which he wouldn't if he'd been made as a Legends-class.
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 20th, 2020 @ 12:31am CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. The Legends/neo-Scout size class is on hiatus because of Micromasters occupying the price point
2. Ball joints are too feeble for the C.O.M.B.A.T. system.
3. Cliffjumper has the mass of a Deluxe (Get this through your smegging heads already people), and comes with accessories - which he wouldn't if he'd been made as a Legends-class. So blackeyedprime, you can take your comment about 50g vs. 100g chip bags and shove it up your exhaust port.
Okay, that's a bit uncalled for. You made your points, isn't that enough?
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Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 20th, 2020 @ 12:39am CDT
Alright, I'll edit now that my irritation has cooled down...
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Posted by blackeyedprime on June 20th, 2020 @ 4:07am CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. The Legends/neo-Scout size class is on hiatus because of Micromasters occupying the price point

2. Ball joints are too feeble for the C.O.M.B.A.T. system. They just can't take the weight as well. Especially not ball-joint elbows and hips.


3. Cliffjumper has the mass of a Deluxe (which kiiiiinda undercuts what you said about 50g vs. 100g bags of chips), and comes with accessories - which he wouldn't if he'd been made as a Legends-class.



See the point where I don't pretend to know Hasbros pricing and production. If you think you have some special insight, golf clap.

Some already existing exceptions to that by his wave mates hoists floppy knee joints and previous thrilling 30 hoists ball jointed shoulders/waist that can support weaponising.

No undercutting at all and can be expanded on - when a bag of crisps that's at least 30% oxygen compared to one that isn't -because that's definitely one of cliffjumpers accessories for his price point :)
Selects packaging for hubcap might be different and then they won't even be including the oxygen, now that undercuts.

And I won't be editing my golfclap. Totally called for.

*Had to edit to sort out how message displays not it's content.
Re: First Look at Possible Transformers Generations Selects Hubcap (2068631)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 20th, 2020 @ 5:28am CDT
No, I didn't think I had any special insight - just felt like the situation called for a reminder that the Micromaster 2-packs are hogging the price point that would normally be used for the Minibots' size class. So until those are over with, it's either Minibots beefed up to Deluxe with a combination of accessories and extra body mass... or no Minibots.

Ball-joint shoulders are generally a different matter from ball-jointed hips and elbows (Especially the darn elbows; those perforce have fairly open sockets that seem to develop play easily - or flop under the weight of heavier weapons). In any case, Hasbro has actually stated outright that concerns over load support are why they have eschewed ball joints for anything load-bearing; note their conspicuous absence from the hips and shoulders of Deluxes in this line, places where ball joints were fairly prominent in the Prime Wars trilogy.

Size classes are based more on "mass of plastic used" than "volume the figure occupies". Cliffjumper has a lot more meat on his bones than the likes of Titans Return Bumblebee despite being of comparable height (not to mention separate hands), and he comes with the pieces to make up his big gun from MTMTE while most of the larger deluxes get one weapon piece and that's it.

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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #351 - Ask Your Dad
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