Entire Velocitron Line Found at KMart in Australia

Walmart moved my pre-order from Blurr from August to November. Luckily we were able to find him in-store.

Rysquad wrote:Walmart moved my pre-order from Blurr from August to November. Luckily we were able to find him in-store.

Sounds like the same nonsense that’s been going on with Walmart preorders for the Netflix assortments over the past few years.

While there are some things I dislike about Scourge, I don't see any issue with the shoulders. Can anyone tell me what about them made some fans not happy?

william-james88 wrote:While there are some things I dislike about Scourge, I don't see any issue with the shoulders. Can anyone tell me what about them made some fans not happy?

I guess it's the fact that those giant pilons are now floating shoulderpads instead of being part of the arm in a single block like the original.

I find this silly complaining about that because that new design improves the articulations greatly.

Sabrblade wrote:I just found out from a Japanese Galaxy Force promo that the reason Override had that spring-loaded transformation was to emphasize her status as the fastest 'bot on Speed Planet. As in, she's so fast that even her transformation is faster than others'.

I remember hearing something about that at the time. To think of a transformers line that had more than one gimmick.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:While there are some things I dislike about Scourge, I don't see any issue with the shoulders. Can anyone tell me what about them made some fans not happy?

I guess it's the fact that those giant pilons are now floating shoulderpads instead of being part of the arm in a single block like the original.

I find this silly complaining about that because that new design improves the articulations greatly.

Improves? How? On what?

Legacy Laser Prime and the original G2 Laser Prime have effectively the same range of movement on the shoulders.




G2 has the benefit of being able to look to the side when his arm is forward.



There only thing Legacy has over G2 is wrists and thighs.

Overcracker wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:While there are some things I dislike about Scourge, I don't see any issue with the shoulders. Can anyone tell me what about them made some fans not happy?

I guess it's the fact that those giant pilons are now floating shoulderpads instead of being part of the arm in a single block like the original.

I find this silly complaining about that because that new design improves the articulations greatly.

Improves? How? On what?


Legacy Laser Prime and the original G2 Laser Prime have effectively the same range of movement on the shoulders.

side.jpg

forward.jpg

G2 has the benefit of being able to look to the side when his arm is forward.

look_to_the_side.jpg

There only thing Legacy has over G2 is wrists and thighs.

Ankle tilt

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:While there are some things I dislike about Scourge, I don't see any issue with the shoulders. Can anyone tell me what about them made some fans not happy?

I guess it's the fact that those giant pilons are now floating shoulderpads instead of being part of the arm in a single block like the original.

I find this silly complaining about that because that new design improves the articulations greatly.

Improves? How? On what?


Legacy Laser Prime and the original G2 Laser Prime have effectively the same range of movement on the shoulders.

side.jpg

forward.jpg

G2 has the benefit of being able to look to the side when his arm is forward.

look_to_the_side.jpg

There only thing Legacy has over G2 is wrists and thighs.

Ankle tilt

Yes, ankle tilts too.

Any Alberta spottings? Ion want to miss out on scourge

I will jump on and agree that the new Laser Prime / Scourge mold just isn't that good.

I agree with Will that the legs are not that good, they are reused so already boring, but also they are too skinny for him, he does not have a muscular look to him, it just doesn't look that good, and the long legs can make posing the shorter arms and torso look weird.

I also don't like that the pylons are locked in place, articulation is limited that way. I also don't like how small the arms seem and feel, he just doesn't feel like he has strength behind him.

and that axe was definitely not needed. If anything, he needed a bigger and better sword, not an axe head attached to the bottom

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I will jump on and agree that the new Laser Prime / Scourge mold just isn't that good.

I agree with Will that the legs are not that good, they are reused so already boring, but also they are too skinny for him, he does not have a muscular look to him, it just doesn't look that good, and the long legs can make posing the shorter arms and torso look weird.

I also don't like that the pylons are locked in place, articulation is limited that way. I also don't like how small the arms seem and feel, he just doesn't feel like he has strength behind him.

and that axe was definitely not needed. If anything, he needed a bigger and better sword, not an axe head attached to the bottom

The articulation isnt limited by the shoulder pylons. You cant move the front section forward when it gets in the way. He can t pose and reach back just fine. Gerwalk truck thanks to the earthrise legs. The axe is instead of his disks, I think they made the right choice. I'm also sure the sword is quite big enough.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I will jump on and agree that the new Laser Prime / Scourge mold just isn't that good.

I agree with Will that the legs are not that good, they are reused so already boring, but also they are too skinny for him, he does not have a muscular look to him, it just doesn't look that good, and the long legs can make posing the shorter arms and torso look weird.

I also don't like that the pylons are locked in place, articulation is limited that way. I also don't like how small the arms seem and feel, he just doesn't feel like he has strength behind him.

and that axe was definitely not needed. If anything, he needed a bigger and better sword, not an axe head attached to the bottom

The articulation isnt limited by the shoulder pylons. You cant move the front section forward when it gets in the way. He can t pose and reach back just fine. Gerwalk truck thanks to the earthrise legs. The axe is instead of his disks, I think they made the right choice. I'm also sure the sword is quite big enough.

The articulation actually is limited by the pylons. while you can move the shoulder front piece, you can still only raise his arm to parallel with the ground. With a character that gets a sword, they should be able to do a full arm in the air holding the sword pose. And he can't do that in a way that looks good.




Gerwalk modes should never come at the expense of actually looking good in the primary modes. And he would have have those if he had used new, better legs regardless.

Disks replaced with that axe is OK, but the sword and axe connection should have been better or they should have included a better spot to put the axe in the trailer if that were the case.

That Rodimus Prime looks so good

ZeroWolf wrote:That Rodimus Prime looks so good

He is spectacular. He is the best figure to come out of the entirety of WFC.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:That Rodimus Prime looks so good

He is spectacular. He is the best figure to come out of the entirety of WFC.

Blasphemy! Sky Lynx erasure! It says "Magnificence" right on the toy!

AcademyofDrX wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:That Rodimus Prime looks so good

He is spectacular. He is the best figure to come out of the entirety of WFC.

Blasphemy! Sky Lynx erasure! It says "Magnificence" right on the toy!

No amount of Magnificence can save him from the fact that he was not worthy of the Matrix!

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:That Rodimus Prime looks so good

He is spectacular. He is the best figure to come out of the entirety of WFC.

Blasphemy! Sky Lynx erasure! It says "Magnificence" right on the toy!

No amount of Magnificence can save him from the fact that he was not worthy of the Matrix!

It's a fair cop, you got me there.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:The articulation actually is limited by the pylons. while you can move the shoulder front piece, you can still only raise his arm to parallel with the ground. With a character that gets a sword, they should be able to do a full arm in the air holding the sword pose. And he can't do that in a way that looks good.

Gerwalk modes should never come at the expense of actually looking good in the primary modes. And he would have have those if he had used new, better legs regardless.

Disks replaced with that axe is OK, but the sword and axe connection should have been better or they should have included a better spot to put the axe in the trailer if that were the case.

The gerwalk mode doesn't sacrifice anything. And the legs seem fine, what is wrong with them? Why do the sword and axe HAVE to connect well if at all. And the weapons store fin, the gun is exceptionally genious.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:The articulation actually is limited by the pylons. while you can move the shoulder front piece, you can still only raise his arm to parallel with the ground. With a character that gets a sword, they should be able to do a full arm in the air holding the sword pose. And he can't do that in a way that looks good.

Gerwalk modes should never come at the expense of actually looking good in the primary modes. And he would have have those if he had used new, better legs regardless.

Disks replaced with that axe is OK, but the sword and axe connection should have been better or they should have included a better spot to put the axe in the trailer if that were the case.

The gerwalk mode doesn't sacrifice anything. And the legs seem fine, what is wrong with them? Why do the sword and axe HAVE to connect well if at all. And the weapons store fin, the gun is exceptionally genious.

The legs are too long and too thin. The design of this mold originally had much bigger wheels on it, making his legs much bulkier. This one is just too thin, it does not look good to me. Same with the arms, both the arms and the legs are too lanky.

If the point of the energon weapons is to connect them, then the axe and sword should connect well. As is, they don't look like they go together, with part of the sword handle still sticking out despite the connection. It looks bad as a combined weapon.

I wasn't talking about alt mode storage, I was referring to there could have been some sort of port on the gun to make it look like it was launching the axe/disk, would have given it a better use.

I truly do believe this mold is a weaker design representation than the TR one, despite that one not having ankles or wrists. This one needed refined

For point of reference, Legacy Laser Prime reuses Siege Primes legs (via Earthrise Prime using them).

Hasbro probably see it as the genius of CAD that allows them to be more efficient.

ZeroWolf wrote:For point of reference, Legacy Laser Prime reuses Siege Primes legs (via Earthrise Prime using them).

Hasbro probably see it as the genius of CAD that allows them to be more efficient.

Not going to argue that this is a smart business decision, but in this case, I really don't think those legs should have been reused. They do not fit the silhouette of this body

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:For point of reference, Legacy Laser Prime reuses Siege Primes legs (via Earthrise Prime using them).

Hasbro probably see it as the genius of CAD that allows them to be more efficient.

Not going to argue that this is a smart business decision, but in this case, I really don't think those legs should have been reused. They do not fit the silhouette of this body

Very much agreed, I would have preferred all new tooling, but guess hasbro needed to save that cash

AcademyofDrX wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:That Rodimus Prime looks so good

He is spectacular. He is the best figure to come out of the entirety of WFC.

Blasphemy! Sky Lynx erasure! It says "Magnificence" right on the toy!

No amount of Magnificence can save him from the fact that he was not worthy of the Matrix!

It's a fair cop, you got me there.

Too bad I can not GET a Rodimus Prime. Ironic, being my favorite character and all

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:The articulation actually is limited by the pylons. while you can move the shoulder front piece, you can still only raise his arm to parallel with the ground. With a character that gets a sword, they should be able to do a full arm in the air holding the sword pose. And he can't do that in a way that looks good.

Gerwalk modes should never come at the expense of actually looking good in the primary modes. And he would have have those if he had used new, better legs regardless.

Disks replaced with that axe is OK, but the sword and axe connection should have been better or they should have included a better spot to put the axe in the trailer if that were the case.

The gerwalk mode doesn't sacrifice anything. And the legs seem fine, what is wrong with them? Why do the sword and axe HAVE to connect well if at all. And the weapons store fin, the gun is exceptionally genious.

The legs are too long and too thin. The design of this mold originally had much bigger wheels on it, making his legs much bulkier. This one is just too thin, it does not look good to me. Same with the arms, both the arms and the legs are too lanky.

If the point of the energon weapons is to connect them, then the axe and sword should connect well. As is, they don't look like they go together, with part of the sword handle still sticking out despite the connection. It looks bad as a combined weapon.

I wasn't talking about alt mode storage, I was referring to there could have been some sort of port on the gun to make it look like it was launching the axe/disk, would have given it a better use.

I truly do believe this mold is a weaker design representation than the TR one, despite that one not having ankles or wrists. This one needed refined

The titan returns shoulder cannons did not have the opening gimmick. The shoulders also stuck out in a sharp, ugly way. The legs are hollow to expose the nosecone of a jet mode he does not need. The color scheme kills me inside, it is a terrible shade of grey. The head sculpt on the Legacy is also way cooler, even though it has no headmaster gimmick. And don forget the tr dropped the battle platform for a wimpy third jet mode. It is also an expensive, hard to find exclusive.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:The articulation actually is limited by the pylons. while you can move the shoulder front piece, you can still only raise his arm to parallel with the ground. With a character that gets a sword, they should be able to do a full arm in the air holding the sword pose. And he can't do that in a way that looks good.

Gerwalk modes should never come at the expense of actually looking good in the primary modes. And he would have have those if he had used new, better legs regardless.

Disks replaced with that axe is OK, but the sword and axe connection should have been better or they should have included a better spot to put the axe in the trailer if that were the case.

The gerwalk mode doesn't sacrifice anything. And the legs seem fine, what is wrong with them? Why do the sword and axe HAVE to connect well if at all. And the weapons store fin, the gun is exceptionally genious.

The legs are too long and too thin. The design of this mold originally had much bigger wheels on it, making his legs much bulkier. This one is just too thin, it does not look good to me. Same with the arms, both the arms and the legs are too lanky.

If the point of the energon weapons is to connect them, then the axe and sword should connect well. As is, they don't look like they go together, with part of the sword handle still sticking out despite the connection. It looks bad as a combined weapon.

I wasn't talking about alt mode storage, I was referring to there could have been some sort of port on the gun to make it look like it was launching the axe/disk, would have given it a better use.

I truly do believe this mold is a weaker design representation than the TR one, despite that one not having ankles or wrists. This one needed refined

The titan returns shoulder cannons did not have the opening gimmick. The shoulders also stuck out in a sharp, ugly way. The legs are hollow to expose the nosecone of a jet mode he does not need. The color scheme kills me inside, it is a terrible shade of grey. The head sculpt on the Legacy is also way cooler, even though it has no headmaster gimmick. And don forget the tr dropped the battle platform for a wimpy third jet mode. It is also an expensive, hard to find exclusive.

The opening shoulders is hardly a game winning gimmick in the grand scheme of things. The legs aren't really that hollow, considering how much is crammed into them. The color scheme really isn't that bad, though I agree it could have been improved on the exclusive version. I'd argue the TR head sculpt was better, especially since Legacy Laser Prime has basically no eyes. titan master gimmick and shoulder opening gimmick kind of offset each other.

Jet mode is actually cool, and I prefer that to the battle platform. I generally don't like battle platforms unless they can attach to the bot in robot mode. They take up space, and unless you are Rodimus Prime, they usually don't have a lot to them unless you go back 20 years. Rodimus and SS-44 DotM Optimus are the lone exceptions to the base rule for me, Rodimus for the strong, stable platform with big guns and Prime since part of the trailer becomes his jetpack and the other part stands up and forms a proper weapons platform that is movie accurate. There is almost nothing in the Legacy Laser Prime mold that makes that trailer truly worth it, though I concede it is much better than the ER trailer.

In a year, Scourge and Laser Prime will probably be as expensive as the retail, Chaos on Velocitron, and Takara Laser Primes and Scourge.

So in the grand scheme of things, even when you include price since that will soon be a moot point, I stand by the statement that TR did it better as an update.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:The articulation actually is limited by the pylons. while you can move the shoulder front piece, you can still only raise his arm to parallel with the ground. With a character that gets a sword, they should be able to do a full arm in the air holding the sword pose. And he can't do that in a way that looks good.

Gerwalk modes should never come at the expense of actually looking good in the primary modes. And he would have have those if he had used new, better legs regardless.

Disks replaced with that axe is OK, but the sword and axe connection should have been better or they should have included a better spot to put the axe in the trailer if that were the case.

The gerwalk mode doesn't sacrifice anything. And the legs seem fine, what is wrong with them? Why do the sword and axe HAVE to connect well if at all. And the weapons store fin, the gun is exceptionally genious.

The legs are too long and too thin. The design of this mold originally had much bigger wheels on it, making his legs much bulkier. This one is just too thin, it does not look good to me. Same with the arms, both the arms and the legs are too lanky.

If the point of the energon weapons is to connect them, then the axe and sword should connect well. As is, they don't look like they go together, with part of the sword handle still sticking out despite the connection. It looks bad as a combined weapon.

I wasn't talking about alt mode storage, I was referring to there could have been some sort of port on the gun to make it look like it was launching the axe/disk, would have given it a better use.

I truly do believe this mold is a weaker design representation than the TR one, despite that one not having ankles or wrists. This one needed refined

The titan returns shoulder cannons did not have the opening gimmick. The shoulders also stuck out in a sharp, ugly way. The legs are hollow to expose the nosecone of a jet mode he does not need. The color scheme kills me inside, it is a terrible shade of grey. The head sculpt on the Legacy is also way cooler, even though it has no headmaster gimmick. And don forget the tr dropped the battle platform for a wimpy third jet mode. It is also an expensive, hard to find exclusive.

The opening shoulders is hardly a game winning gimmick in the grand scheme of things. The legs aren't really that hollow, considering how much is crammed into them. The color scheme really isn't that bad, though I agree it could have been improved on the exclusive version. I'd argue the TR head sculpt was better, especially since Legacy Laser Prime has basically no eyes. titan master gimmick and shoulder opening gimmick kind of offset each other.

Jet mode is actually cool, and I prefer that to the battle platform. I generally don't like battle platforms unless they can attach to the bot in robot mode. They take up space, and unless you are Rodimus Prime, they usually don't have a lot to them unless you go back 20 years. Rodimus and SS-44 DotM Optimus are the lone exceptions to the base rule for me, Rodimus for the strong, stable platform with big guns and Prime since part of the trailer becomes his jetpack and the other part stands up and forms a proper weapons platform that is movie accurate. There is almost nothing in the Legacy Laser Prime mold that makes that trailer truly worth it, though I concede it is much better than the ER trailer.

In a year, Scourge and Laser Prime will probably be as expensive as the retail, Chaos on Velocitron, and Takara Laser Primes and Scourge.

So in the grand scheme of things, even when you include price since that will soon be a moot point, I stand by the statement that TR did it better as an update.

Very much an opinion I share. Plus RodimusPrimeUkraine1, remember that TR laser Prime was a redeco/retool of Octane/Tankor while Megatron was clearly another use of the Blitzwing mold.

ZeroWolf wrote:The opening shoulders is hardly a game winning gimmick in the grand scheme of things. The color scheme really isn't that bad, though I agree it could have been improved on the exclusive version. I'd argue the TR head sculpt was better, especially since Legacy Laser Prime has basically no eyes. titan master gimmick and shoulder opening gimmick kind of offset each other.

Jet mode is actually cool, and I prefer that to the battle platform. I generally don't like battle platforms unless they can attach to the bot in robot mode. They take up space, and unless you are Rodimus Prime, they usually don't have a lot to them unless you go back 20 years. Rodimus and SS-44 DotM Optimus are the lone exceptions to the base rule for me, Rodimus for the strong, stable platform with big guns and Prime since part of the trailer becomes his jetpack and the other part stands up and forms a proper weapons platform that is movie accurate. There is almost nothing in the Legacy Laser Prime mold that makes that trailer truly worth it, though I concede it is much better than the ER trailer.

The opening shoulders count for something. I guess it ties with the headmaster gimmick sure. Even if you prefer the jet mode to the battle station, it is not accurate to the classic or original interpenetration of the character, therefore it does not make up for the lack of a battle platform and is irrelevant and a negative quality.

In the end, I do not think you can prove to me that the laser prime is better, you arguments have so far been invalid or ties. The only argument that makes sense is the shoulder pads locking in place.

The legacy is more accurate to the original laser optimus prime except the lack of forest fire stickers.

The legacy has more articulation

In my mind, Legacy wins


Though the fact I got $10 off may be a bit bias.

Eh I think you were meant to quote D-Maximal_Primal in that post as it was him who wrote all that. Also he wasn't trying to prove to you why tr was better as a fact, he was saying why he preferred tr over Legacy. You say that he can't prove it to you, but that does mean it works both ways.

I love my TR Scourge.
And my TR Laser Prime.
I do love them more than Velocitron Scourge.

william-james88 wrote:I love my TR Scourge.
And my TR Laser Prime.
I do love them more than Velocitron Scourge.

I have seen scourge on the shelf, easy skip

The colors do not suck, they just look bland. Dark. Boring. Meanwhile my Laser Prime has a better color palette. Maybe scourge is supposed to look bland and dark, but I do not like it. I thought the tr laser prime looked fine until I saw the OG and the Legacy and changed my mind. I would say more but I need to go.

I enjoy both TR and Legacy. Both have issues. I think overall Legacy is still a bit better, since he actually gets wrists and ankle tilts. I find the pre-sculpted feet a bit annoying to pose on the TR version added to the fact the shin panels they are connected to don't actually stay in place well.

Outside of that, TR is a lot fun, but I find myself playing around with Legacy more.

If anything I would have preferred the Earthrise hands.

The legs do seem a bit too long, but not sure they are too thin. The original G2 Prime has very thin thighs.

Also the legs end up being a mix of Siege: shins and feet, earth rise: thighs and hips; and new tooling: Back of the lower legs.

Overcracker wrote:.

Also the legs end up being a mix of Siege: shins and feet, earth rise: thighs and hips; and new tooling: Back of the lower legs.

As a fan of the toys, I'm disappointed in how they did things and would have preferred new legs. But as an engineer, I'm actually pretty impressed on how they designed things and think they might have planned the evolution from Siege to ER to Laser right from the beginning.

As you mention, they re-use the shins and feet from Siege and the thighs and hips from ER. If you really look at the Siege mold layout, I believe all the re-used parts are on a single sprue with only a few other parts that are not re-used. This was the blue sprue for ER Prime, which explains why ER Prime's hands needed to be painted.

Then again on ER mold layout, the re-used parts for Laser are all on the same sprue again with only a few other parts that are not re-used.

I just hope to god we don't get a 4th "new" mold that re-uses Siege shins and feet, ER thighs and hips, and something from Laser as well.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I love my TR Scourge.
And my TR Laser Prime.
I do love them more than Velocitron Scourge.

I have seen scourge on the shelf, easy skip

The colors do not suck, they just look bland. Dark. Boring. Meanwhile my Laser Prime has a better color palette. Maybe scourge is supposed to look bland and dark, but I do not like it. I thought the tr laser prime looked fine until I saw the OG and the Legacy and changed my mind. I would say more but I need to go.

I also didn't get Scourge, but it was because the splashes of pink he has. If he was teal, gray and black only, I probably would have gotten him.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I just hope to god we don't get a 4th "new" mold that re-uses Siege shins and feet, ER thighs and hips, and something from Laser as well.

That would certainly be at the very least interesting to see. No sure what other Prime they could get out of these parts.

Overcracker wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I just hope to god we don't get a 4th "new" mold that re-uses Siege shins and feet, ER thighs and hips, and something from Laser as well.

That would certainly be at the very least interesting to see. No sure what other Prime they could get out of these parts.

My biggest fear, a G1-ified Movie Prime using Siege shins and feet, ER legs and hips, the Laser long nose cab shell on a new torso where the cab front becomes the forearms instead of the pylons.

That would suck sooo bad.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I just hope to god we don't get a 4th "new" mold that re-uses Siege shins and feet, ER thighs and hips, and something from Laser as well.

That would certainly be at the very least interesting to see. No sure what other Prime they could get out of these parts.

My biggest fear, a G1-ified Movie Prime using Siege shins and feet, ER legs and hips, the Laser long nose cab shell on a new torso where the cab front becomes the forearms instead of the pylons.

That would suck sooo bad.

What's funny is that we do already have a G1-ified Movie Prime toy that's based on Laser Optimus.

Sabrblade wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I just hope to god we don't get a 4th "new" mold that re-uses Siege shins and feet, ER thighs and hips, and something from Laser as well.

That would certainly be at the very least interesting to see. No sure what other Prime they could get out of these parts.

My biggest fear, a G1-ified Movie Prime using Siege shins and feet, ER legs and hips, the Laser long nose cab shell on a new torso where the cab front becomes the forearms instead of the pylons.

That would suck sooo bad.

What's is that we do already have a G1-ified Movie Prime toy that's based on Laser Optimus.

I know, the last thing anyone wants is that at leader price point with reused parts from 3 previous primes.

Overcracker wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I just hope to god we don't get a 4th "new" mold that re-uses Siege shins and feet, ER thighs and hips, and something from Laser as well.

That would certainly be at the very least interesting to see. No sure what other Prime they could get out of these parts.

Bendy prime was the first that came to mind.

Just got charged for Override on Pulse. ALSO...

ZeroWolf wrote:Eh I think you were meant to quote D-Maximal_Primal in that post as it was him who wrote all that. Also he wasn't trying to prove to you why tr was better as a fact, he was saying why he preferred tr over Legacy. You say that he can't prove it to you, but that does mean it works both ways.

Exactly. I'm not that big a fan of the Legacy Laser Prime/Velocitron Scourge, and i was saying why I think it needed some improvements and why I think the TR was better. I'm not expecting everyone to agree with me, just making my case for my opinion on why one is better than the other.

And to me, a triple changer with a jet mode instead of a trailer base mode is actually an improvement, given what I like about trailers/bases as previously stated. It doesn't need to be exactly like the original in function for me to like it. Sometimes, changing something up like replacing the base with a jet mode to me is an improvement, it's not always a negative.

Sabrblade wrote:What's is that we do already have a G1-ified Movie Prime toy that's based on Laser Optimus.

Unironically, this is a small grail item of mine.

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I just hope to god we don't get a 4th "new" mold that re-uses Siege shins and feet, ER thighs and hips, and something from Laser as well.

That would certainly be at the very least interesting to see. No sure what other Prime they could get out of these parts.

Bendy prime was the first that came to mind.

I would hope not. Much like Scourge, he is more distinct thanks to the big wheels sticking out of the side of the legs, though in his case they are even bigger and badder looking.

william-james88 wrote:I love my TR Scourge.
And my TR Laser Prime.
I do love them more than Velocitron Scourge.

Simply put, this, yes.

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I just hope to god we don't get a 4th "new" mold that re-uses Siege shins and feet, ER thighs and hips, and something from Laser as well.

That would certainly be at the very least interesting to see. No sure what other Prime they could get out of these parts.

Bendy prime was the first that came to mind.

I thought about that as well, but my first thought was the actual ultra class Armada Optimus cab. Add the trailer, and it's a commander class figure.

How about another update on Powermaster Prime? Imagine ER Prime with an actual trailer that breaks down into pieces to attach to him, OR even better, a straight homage of Super Ginrai, where the trailer is solid, and we get a version of ER Prime that can be folded into a cube and inserted like that.

I have Legacy Prime and he is not terrible. From the very first time they showed him, I said he should have had Bulkheads legs. The shoulder pylons should rotate so he can be posed, but instead he cant even do the pose on the box. I realize box art isnt always doable, however in this case the lack of articulation in the arms/shoulders really limit the rockets in them. Plus yeah like others said; his arms are too thin and he can only look forward, or look straight into his shoulders. All this is really lame cause this is my 2nd fav Prime and I was looking forward to the figure. I do like the colours and headsculpt.

Takara has posted a new 2 page comic on their website to promote their first wave of Velocitron toys: Road Rocket, Burn Out, Road Hauler and Blurr. The comic is from Sakamoto and while it is only 2 pages, there are lots of fun Easter Eggs. We see that in whatever universe this comic is taking place in, Burn Out is indeed a Diaclone toy, with Dia driving. Some fans might wonder if the extra characters we see cheering them on may hint at anything and we can tell you in full confidence that THEY DO NOT. Those extra characters are just there to give each of the releases one particular character linked directly to them to cheer them on. So a fellow Diaclone toy, a fellow IDW barman, a fellow Ninja and the most powerful Constructicon.

Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.

His case box says BLK Convoy, too.

Hey you need a Blitzwing? Store up the street from my job has one...Walmart.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.

Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.

Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.

Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Last night at Wal-Mart I noticed that Scourge's price tag actually calls him Black Convoy. Was he referred to that name in the listings? I just think it's odd he has 1 name on the box and another in the store.

Black Convoy is his name in all initial retailer listings and its the name on the case/shipping box.

Hasbro used it due to another figure also possibly being on the shelf also called scourge

That is just fan speculation and from what we were told by Hasbro developers who worked on this toy, it's more than likely flat out false.

I thought they said they went with black convoy since that was the Japanese name and car robots came out first or something like that