Detailed Headsculpt Revealed for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron

mblase75 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Lightspeed: Wheeljack redeco with new head

Lightspeed has at least some additional retooling -- or maybe that's just the windshield, now that I compare them.

I think its just the windshield.

william-james88 wrote:

mblase75 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Lightspeed: Wheeljack redeco with new head

Lightspeed has at least some additional retooling -- or maybe that's just the windshield, now that I compare them.

I think its just the windshield.

I did some comparing yesterday and everything on Lightspeed looked like it was the same on Wheeljack. Obviously he has a new gun and hopefully a new Lightspeed head (and not whatever the alternate head on the Wheeljack body is as it's not likely originally Lightspeed, even though we haven't seen it, because Hasbro passed using it as Lightspeed in favor of what's likely a straight redeco of Streetwise).

This is not to say that there isn't a possibility of a new windshield (as he could use one), but I don't think we can tell based on what we've seen thus far.

Randy

william-james88 wrote:Hisashi Yuki, Takara Unite Warriors head designer (aren't puns fun), has posted the new cominer head exclusive to Takara's version of Computron. He states in his post that they used the cartoon design as a basis and he wanted to showcase it in a post in case this significant change was missed in yesterday's reveal.

Wow, guess Hasbro really got ahead of themselves.


...I had to.

william-james88 wrote:(aren't puns fun)

so basically hasbro is giving us the crappy superion head, while takara gets a whole new remolded head etc

so basically if u get the hasbro version it sucks, but u want the takara fork out ur left nut to get him. guess im passing

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:so basically hasbro is giving us the crappy superion head, while takara gets a whole new remolded head etc

so basically if u get the hasbro version it sucks, but u want the takara fork out ur left nut to get him. guess im passing

Worse, I want Scrounge and the new feet and hands, but I have to stick with UW because that's the line I've gotten my combiners through.

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:so basically hasbro is giving us the crappy superion head, while takara gets a whole new remolded head etc

so basically if u get the hasbro version it sucks, but u want the takara fork out ur left nut to get him. guess im passing

Is your left nut only 35$? Thats the price difference between the two, and its only because one is imported. They cost the same price at their corresponding local retail (about 100$ US).

Also Hasbro gives you 2 more toys plus those hands and feet everyone wanted. Hasbro isnt cheapenign us out, just offering us something different.

Yeah, the 2 are very different and offer very different options. One really can't be considered best considering there are very few similarities and they try to fulfill 2 very different things

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Yeah, the 2 are very different and offer very different options. One really can't be considered best considering there are very few similarities and they try to fulfill 2 very different things

Almost makes one want to get both and mix-and-match (and sell off the duds): UW Computicon's retooling + CW Computron's hands and feet + Scrounge. Nosecone, Lightspeed and Strafe are iffy, we'll have to wait and see on which is superior.

My head cannon for these two is Takaras is actually Computron and in an effort to combat the decepticon forces Wheeljack tried cloning Computron but it didn't fully turn out properly so Betatron was formed.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Yeah, the 2 are very different and offer very different options. One really can't be considered best considering there are very few similarities and they try to fulfill 2 very different things

Almost makes one want to get both and mix-and-match (and sell off the duds): UW Computicon's retooling + CW Computron's hands and feet + Scrounge. Nosecone, Lightspeed and Strafe are iffy, we'll have to wait and see on which is superior.

Mind you we haven't seen anything regarding individuals and how they actually look painted up in full detail by themselves and how they transform and look, but I think Hasbro won with Strafe using the Air Raid mold. I love that mold and think it works better for Strafe. Now Nosecone may go to takara due to the better mold and retooling, but it depends on the arms and how obvious they are. Hasbro chose the superior mold for Lightspeed in terms of engineering but takara chose the better looking option. So yep, tossup

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Mind you we haven't seen anything regarding individuals and how they actually look painted up in full detail by themselves and how they transform and look, but I think Hasbro won with Strafe using the Air Raid mold. I love that mold and think it works better for Strafe. Now Nosecone may go to takara due to the better mold and retooling, but it depends on the arms and how obvious they are. Hasbro chose the superior mold for Lightspeed in terms of engineering but takara chose the better looking option. So yep, tossup

Well, G1 Lightspeed and CW Breakdown/Wheeljack both had rather long torsos, so... which fits better?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Mind you we haven't seen anything regarding individuals and how they actually look painted up in full detail by themselves and how they transform and look, but I think Hasbro won with Strafe using the Air Raid mold. I love that mold and think it works better for Strafe. Now Nosecone may go to takara due to the better mold and retooling, but it depends on the arms and how obvious they are. Hasbro chose the superior mold for Lightspeed in terms of engineering but takara chose the better looking option. So yep, tossup

Well, G1 Lightspeed and CW Breakdown/Wheeljack both had rather long torsos, so... which fits better?

I was more thinking in terms of mold design and how good the actual mold is. The breakdown mold to me is the weakest car mold we got, even if there were some good looking figures that did come from it

william-james88 wrote:Hisashi Yuki, Takara Unite Warriors head designer (aren't puns fun), has posted the new cominer head exclusive to Takara's version of Computron. He states in his post that they used the cartoon design as a basis and he wanted to showcase it in a post in case this significant change was missed in yesterday's reveal.

Yup, that looks fantastic!


It's gonna be a long wait for this guy.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Mind you we haven't seen anything regarding individuals and how they actually look painted up in full detail by themselves and how they transform and look, but I think Hasbro won with Strafe using the Air Raid mold. I love that mold and think it works better for Strafe. Now Nosecone may go to takara due to the better mold and retooling, but it depends on the arms and how obvious they are. Hasbro chose the superior mold for Lightspeed in terms of engineering but takara chose the better looking option. So yep, tossup

Well, G1 Lightspeed and CW Breakdown/Wheeljack both had rather long torsos, so... which fits better?

I was more thinking in terms of mold design and how good the actual mold is. The breakdown mold to me is the weakest car mold we got, even if there were some good looking figures that did come from it

I'm thinking that after I get TT Computron, I can put Breakdown, G2 Breakdown, Wheeljack, and Lightspeed on the first Motormaster and have a worse combiner than a PCC.

kurthy wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Mind you we haven't seen anything regarding individuals and how they actually look painted up in full detail by themselves and how they transform and look, but I think Hasbro won with Strafe using the Air Raid mold. I love that mold and think it works better for Strafe. Now Nosecone may go to takara due to the better mold and retooling, but it depends on the arms and how obvious they are. Hasbro chose the superior mold for Lightspeed in terms of engineering but takara chose the better looking option. So yep, tossup

Well, G1 Lightspeed and CW Breakdown/Wheeljack both had rather long torsos, so... which fits better?

I was more thinking in terms of mold design and how good the actual mold is. The breakdown mold to me is the weakest car mold we got, even if there were some good looking figures that did come from it

I'm thinking that after I get TT Computron, I can put Breakdown, G2 Breakdown, Wheeljack, and Lightspeed on the first Motormaster and have a worse combiner than a PCC.

Naw, no way. those molds are still better than those Power core combiners.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Naw, no way. those molds are still better than those Power core combiners.

Dissing PCC's? ooooo your boss ain't gonna like that!

Burn wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Naw, no way. those molds are still better than those Power core combiners.

Dissing PCC's? ooooo your boss ain't gonna like that!

Oh now come on, every mold in CW, no matter how repetitive, is better than those PCC's. There were some good ones, but even the good couldn't touch these guys

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Burn wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Naw, no way. those molds are still better than those Power core combiners.

Dissing PCC's? ooooo your boss ain't gonna like that!

Oh now come on, every mold in CW, no matter how repetitive, is better than those PCC's. There were some good ones, but even the good couldn't touch these guys

4 Breakdown molds plus wave 2 CW Motormaster? Might have quite a few problems in the standing up and posability plus I'm really not a fan of Breakdown as an arm.

kurthy wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Burn wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Naw, no way. those molds are still better than those Power core combiners.

Dissing PCC's? ooooo your boss ain't gonna like that!

Oh now come on, every mold in CW, no matter how repetitive, is better than those PCC's. There were some good ones, but even the good couldn't touch these guys

4 Breakdown molds plus wave 2 CW Motormaster? Might have quite a few problems in the standing up and posability plus I'm really not a fan of Breakdown as an arm.

Funny thing is this: I am using Wheeljack and Breakdown as arms, and they are able to, thanks to the hips, actually rest in a good looking position, the best of the arms if I must say, a more neutral position. I like them as arms

Hisashi really knows how to give a good head.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

kurthy wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Burn wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Naw, no way. those molds are still better than those Power core combiners.

Dissing PCC's? ooooo your boss ain't gonna like that!

Oh now come on, every mold in CW, no matter how repetitive, is better than those PCC's. There were some good ones, but even the good couldn't touch these guys

4 Breakdown molds plus wave 2 CW Motormaster? Might have quite a few problems in the standing up and posability plus I'm really not a fan of Breakdown as an arm.

Funny thing is this: I am using Wheeljack and Breakdown as arms, and they are able to, thanks to the hips, actually rest in a good looking position, the best of the arms if I must say, a more neutral position. I like them as arms

Yeah, I don't like Deadend, Breakdown or Offroad as arms, but I think that has more to do with me only using them with the truck and firetruck torsos. I haven't put them on the plane torso much and I still don't have Sky Lynx. They don't have enough clearance at the peg. I'm kind of sad I'm only going to have three copies of the Dragstrip mold, criminally underused (although I hate the sword). I think I'm going to have four of every mold except that one when it's all said and done unless Liokaiser is going to use it. And I just realized I forgot Sunstreaker, so I have 4 copies of the Breakdown mold now to make that.

william-james88 wrote:

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:so basically hasbro is giving us the crappy superion head, while takara gets a whole new remolded head etc

so basically if u get the hasbro version it sucks, but u want the takara fork out ur left nut to get him. guess im passing

Is your left nut only 35$? Thats the price difference between the two, and its only because one is imported. They cost the same price at their corresponding local retail (about 100$ US).

Also Hasbro gives you 2 more toys plus those hands and feet everyone wanted. Hasbro isnt cheapenign us out, just offering us something different.

the united version in canadian dollars plus importing etc will be big dollars. devy went for 300. hasbro will be more here too

kurthy wrote:Yeah, I don't like Deadend, Breakdown or Offroad as arms, but I think that has more to do with me only using them with the truck and firetruck torsos. I haven't put them on the plane torso much and I still don't have Sky Lynx. They don't have enough clearance at the peg. I'm kind of sad I'm only going to have three copies of the Dragstrip mold, criminally underused (although I hate the sword). I think I'm going to have four of every mold except that one when it's all said and done unless Liokaiser is going to use it. And I just realized I forgot Sunstreaker, so I have 4 copies of the Breakdown mold now to make that.

Motorprime in particular has exceptionally small shoulder clearance. Silverclonushot has much better clearance and is a better torso overall than the two others, I feel. I don't have Sky Lynx yet.

How do you have three of the Dragstrip mold? Did you double dip on one of the combiners?

That Bot wrote:

kurthy wrote:Yeah, I don't like Deadend, Breakdown or Offroad as arms, but I think that has more to do with me only using them with the truck and firetruck torsos. I haven't put them on the plane torso much and I still don't have Sky Lynx. They don't have enough clearance at the peg. I'm kind of sad I'm only going to have three copies of the Dragstrip mold, criminally underused (although I hate the sword). I think I'm going to have four of every mold except that one when it's all said and done unless Liokaiser is going to use it. And I just realized I forgot Sunstreaker, so I have 4 copies of the Breakdown mold now to make that.

Motorprime in particular has exceptionally small shoulder clearance. Silverclonushot has much better clearance and is a better torso overall than the two others, I feel. I don't have Sky Lynx yet.

How do you have three of the Dragstrip mold? Did you double dip on one of the combiners?

Dragstrip, Mirage, and G2 Dragstrip.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Yeah, the 2 are very different and offer very different options. One really can't be considered best considering there are very few similarities and they try to fulfill 2 very different things

I am pretty sure one will be more definite. But while I am pretty certain as to which one it is, I will wait till we have all the individual images to hammer in my point

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Yeah, the 2 are very different and offer very different options. One really can't be considered best considering there are very few similarities and they try to fulfill 2 very different things

I am pretty sure one will be more definite. But while I am pretty certain as to which one it is, I will wait till we have all the individual images to hammer in my point

Surely that all depends on what you're after, if it's g1 accuracy then of course one will be better but if you don't care about g1 accuracy at all (like yours truly, unless it's something really stupid like having a sky lynx repaint sit in for deathsarus) then it doesn't really work that way and the other one most likely works out the best, considering the extras.

I'd still rather hear about what takara are doing about leokaiser

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Yeah, the 2 are very different and offer very different options. One really can't be considered best considering there are very few similarities and they try to fulfill 2 very different things

I am pretty sure one will be more definite. But while I am pretty certain as to which one it is, I will wait till we have all the individual images to hammer in my point

Surely that all depends on what you're after, if it's g1 accuracy then of course one will be better but if you don't care about g1 accuracy at all (like yours truly, unless it's something really stupid like having a sky lynx repaint sit in for deathsarus) then it doesn't really work that way and the other one most likely works out the best, considering the extras.

I'd still rather hear about what takara are doing about leokaiser

I wasnt thinking about it in terms of G1 accuracy, but more in terms of having these characters be their own unique toys. If the idea of Combiner Wars is to mix and match, the fun of trying new combinations is amplified by how diverse the toys are. And beyond that, you'd like your combiner to look different than the other combiners and thus its cooler the more distinct he looks from the rest.

Or more simply, to me a character's most defining feature is the face. The body can be different, but if the face is the exact same, it either becomes the same character disguised as someone else, or another character wearing the mask of someone else. My end goal is to have a bunch of combiners looking distinct from one another and them not sharing the same face is vital.

So the world thankfully presents me 2 options. One (Hasbro) which is a combiner made of deritive components that look really similar to toys I already have (5/7) and another which is only has one component (lightspeed) which isn't a heavy remold.

Also, most people dont know yet, though it was written several pages back and confirmed by others, but Hasbro's lightspeed retains (and highlights) the lightbar at the top of the streetwise mold. Also, supposedly none of them have new facesculpts in the Hasbro version but people seem tohave made peace with that as well.

As I said before, it will look more aparant once we see the inidividual molds but I am certain that the way Strafe is handled in both versions will be a nice basis and alegory on which to evaluate the combiner as a whole. I predict a lot of fans willbe dissapointed by the Hasbro version.

Also, I am a man of my word and I wrote this back in October:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote: The drill part would need better molding to make Nosecone though. The one the club is doing wouldn't be fully satisfactory considering the drill is small.

He needs a nice meaty drill to widen all those crevices and enter with pride! How's he gonna excavate any cave to satisfaction with the tiny thing the club gave him?

And Takara fulfilled that. I would be hypocrytic not to encourage their hard work and dedication.

Oh wow, I wrote a lot about this before:

WJ88 wrote:So yeah, not a fan of how Hasbro is handling Bruticus and I am much less a fan of Computron.
I said this a while back when people were clamoring for one (when scattershot was revealed) that I wished we didnt get it. I saw it coming. We had that Ramhorn revealed and it was a straight up repaint of brawl, still nothing wrong since its of a character we wouldnt get otherwise and a figure most fans wont get anyways. I was fine with it being like that. But when I saw that itty bitty drill accesory I was getting scared. Is this really what Hasbro would do for Nosecone? Because that is extremely lazy. The Drill isnt even part o the figure!! So yeah, seeing what scattershot looked like and what nosecone could look like, I didnt want a computron, not like this. But people clamoured for it. And they got it ... yay.

And you know what, thanks to Takara, I wont be getting that Computron, but another one with a nice meaty drill

steals_your_goats wrote:My head cannon

(Sorry, had to be done.)

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Yeah, the 2 are very different and offer very different options. One really can't be considered best considering there are very few similarities and they try to fulfill 2 very different things

I am pretty sure one will be more definite. But while I am pretty certain as to which one it is, I will wait till we have all the individual images to hammer in my point

Surely that all depends on what you're after, if it's g1 accuracy then of course one will be better but if you don't care about g1 accuracy at all (like yours truly, unless it's something really stupid like having a sky lynx repaint sit in for deathsarus) then it doesn't really work that way and the other one most likely works out the best, considering the extras.

I'd still rather hear about what takara are doing about leokaiser

I wasnt thinking about it in terms of G1 accuracy, but more in terms of having these characters be their own unique toys. If the idea of Combiner Wars is to mix and match, the fun of trying new combinations is amplified by how diverse the toys are. And beyond that, you'd like your combiner to look different than the other combiners and thus its cooler the more distinct he looks from the rest.

Or more simply, to me a character's most defining feature is the face. The body can be different, but if the face is the exact same, it either becomes the same character disguised as someone else, or another character wearing the mask of someone else. My end goal is to have a bunch of combiners looking distinct from one another and them not sharing the same face is vital.

So the world thankfully presents me 2 options. One (Hasbro) which is a combiner made of deritive components that look really similar to toys I already have (5/7) and another which is only has one component (lightspeed) which isn't a heavy remold.

Also, most people dont know yet, though it was written several pages back and confirmed by others, but Hasbro's lightspeed retains (and highlights) the lightbar at the top of the streetwise mold. Also, supposedly none of them have new facesculpts in the Hasbro version but people seem tohave made peace with that as well.

As I said before, it will look more aparant once we see the inidividual molds but I am certain that the way Strafe is handled in both versions will be a nice basis and alegory on which to evaluate the combiner as a whole. I predict a lot of fans willbe dissapointed by the Hasbro version.

Also, I am a man of my word and I wrote this back in October:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote: The drill part would need better molding to make Nosecone though. The one the club is doing wouldn't be fully satisfactory considering the drill is small.

He needs a nice meaty drill to widen all those crevices and enter with pride! How's he gonna excavate any cave to satisfaction with the tiny thing the club gave him?

And Takara fulfilled that. I would be hypocrytic not to encourage their hard work and dedication.

Oh wow, I wrote a lot about this before:

WJ88 wrote:So yeah, not a fan of how Hasbro is handling Bruticus and I am much less a fan of Computron.
I said this a while back when people were clamoring for one (when scattershot was revealed) that I wished we didnt get it. I saw it coming. We had that Ramhorn revealed and it was a straight up repaint of brawl, still nothing wrong since its of a character we wouldnt get otherwise and a figure most fans wont get anyways. I was fine with it being like that. But when I saw that itty bitty drill accesory I was getting scared. Is this really what Hasbro would do for Nosecone? Because that is extremely lazy. The Drill isnt even part o the figure!! So yeah, seeing what scattershot looked like and what nosecone could look like, I didnt want a computron, not like this. But people clamoured for it. And they got it ... yay.

And you know what, thanks to Takara, I wont be getting that Computron, but another one with a nice meaty drill

It would be so easy to read innuendos into that last part of yours but thank you for explaining your thought processes but it does illustrate that everyone has different ways of measuring satisfaction from the figures. You say that hasbro's computron doesn't have the remoulding on it to help make it distinctive from its brethren (and little sister victorion) but that's a non issue for me. It's hard for me to describe my thought processes with these as when I look at these I feel the excitement I did as a child when I constantly flipped through the early nineties European g1 tf catalogue I had and dreamed of owning everything. I can look past sloppy repaints (to an extent, if the actual paint work is sloppy then ill be annoyed) as I love playing with them, messing around with them when I have a few spare moments. I create my own fiction for my collection to explain everything and why my only combiner is made up out of three aerialbots and two protectorbots. I'm doing badly to explain myself aren't I.

In the end I would have the same fun value with both computrons, but hasbro would win out as I've got more chance getting that at retail (0.000001% isn't zero) than takara's and I love getting my tfs in the wild.

Though if takara made it so the drill for nosecone was detachable then I would pray that someone made a custom that looked a little something like this.

ZeroWolf wrote:
In the end I would have the same fun value with both computrons, but hasbro would win out as I've got more chance getting that at retail (0.000001% isn't zero) than takara's and I love getting my tfs in the wild.

I get that. Finding something in the wild is priceles to some and nothing can beat that.

I know Nosecone is a retool of Rook, but I just noticed Nosecone has full length tank treads as well! Dang, I'm not a massive fan of the Technobots (not that I hate them, they were just always a bit low on my list of favs) but yeah, I'm kinda gonna have to get that Takara Computron. It's just too awesome to pass up on.

mblase75 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:My head cannon

(Sorry, had to be done.)

Grammar - it makes sure people don't run away from you in terror!

I'm really excited about the Takara Computron. Wasn't going to pass on this one like the other Autobot combiners, and that new head makes it even sweeter.

But now I don't know if I should keep the PE head/chest set I've preordered...
I'm considering keeping it, getting the Hasbro Scattershot, and adding the set to that.
Although, may not be worth the $50+ to get both...

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm really excited about the Takara Computron. Wasn't going to pass on this one like the other Autobot combiners, and that new head makes it even sweeter.

But now I don't know if I should keep the PE head/chest set I've preordered...
I'm considering keeping it, getting the Hasbro Scattershot, and adding the set to that.
Although, may not be worth the $50+ to get both...

I'm hoping PE will make a separate set for the UW version. But worst case: if you keep the PE set, you'll be getting a head with tilting capabilities.

Assuming the UW version only has swivel like Superion did.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm really excited about the Takara Computron. Wasn't going to pass on this one like the other Autobot combiners, and that new head makes it even sweeter.

But now I don't know if I should keep the PE head/chest set I've preordered...
I'm considering keeping it, getting the Hasbro Scattershot, and adding the set to that.
Although, may not be worth the $50+ to get both...

I'm hoping PE will make a separate set for the UW version. But worst case: if you keep the PE set, you'll be getting a head with tilting capabilities.

Assuming the UW version only has swivel like Superion did.

Also wouldn't mind having the gun that comes with that set...
But that's not worth $35...
I plan on keeping Computron combined, so having the head/chest on the Hasbro version sitting off somewhere uncombined doesn't really make sense...

Dang... After looking over pictures again, I like the chest piece of the PE add-on... It gives some bulk in the chest area towards the shoulders. Without it, those areas are just flat (yes, insert jokes, haha).
But I LOVE the new head sculpt, which I'm sure can't be put on the PE chest piece...
Hmm.

Sowndwave76 wrote:Dang... After looking over pictures again, I like the chest piece of the PE add-on... It gives some bulk in the chest area towards the shoulders. Without it, those areas are just flat (yes, insert jokes, haha).
But I LOVE the new head sculpt, which I'm sure can't be put on the PE chest piece...
Hmm.

If you look up a review of the Superion set, I shows that all it is is a chest piece, and the head goes on the existing neck. So if it uses the same engineering as Superion, you should be able to just put the chest piece on and leave the Takara heD on if you like.

Fellow Seibertronian Survivefan23 has pointed us towards usual suspect TFYuki, as we get a new image of the upcoming Takara Tomy Unite Warriors Computron torso and Technobot leader - Scattershot! Check out the grey prototype pics mirrored below, and let us know what you think of the Silverbolt remold in the Energon Pub.

oh wow. this is really impressive. I might have to get this set. Honestly, I have been happy with Hasbros versions of the combiners but computron was pretty weak. New paint aps rarely make me want to shell out more money but a re-mold? Effort to make the design stand out? Yes please. I'm thinking I want this.

I like the new chest and new knee pads. LOVE THE NEW GUNS!! That has been my biggest disappointment with CW, non-unique weapons. To me, there are a few things that help sell a bot as being different from another: Head, gun, color scheme and character specific kibble. You can change vehicles, change transformation sequence, add new gimmicks, remove gimmicks. Just give me those things and you can sell it to me as a different character. Hasbro's version hit 3 of those 4 with most of CW, but this UW Scattershot hits all 4. The seekers get an exemption.

I was really happy that UW Cyclonus has a bright orange cannon.

It doesn't look too bad. I don't know much about the Technobots (I'll always associate the name Scattershot with the blue tank from Transformers: Cybertron), but the Unite Warriors set has got my interest. The grey prototype of Computron that we saw a while ago looks better than Superion, so I might try getting this set once its out.

What's to 'prototype'? It's Scattershot CW. I saw four of them in a store just yesterday. The only thing different about the UW version will be the paint job, which they didn't even show here....

DeathReviews wrote:What's to 'prototype'? It's Scattershot CW. I saw four of them in a store just yesterday. The only thing different about the UW version will be the paint job, which they didn't even show here....

Death, I know you are busy, but take a few seconds to look at the chest of both this prototype and the combiner chest. As well as the kneepads.

Man it is getting harder to choose between the UW or the CW version of the technobots, both look great. The Takara has proper head, and Rook as Nosecone but Hasbro has Scrounge and Streetwise as Lightspeed.

Just so people can get a better look at the differences:

william-james88 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:What's to 'prototype'? It's Scattershot CW. I saw four of them in a store just yesterday. The only thing different about the UW version will be the paint job, which they didn't even show here....

Death, I know you are busy, but take a few seconds to look at the chest of both this prototype and the combiner chest. As well as the kneepads.

...And four new guns (two big and two small), and new Computron head.

I wish they didn't use Hasbro's wings and front end in alt mode, but they made enough additional changes that I'm fine with it.

Emerje

I'm really excited for Takara Tomy's Unite Warriors Computron, though I'm disappointed that Hasbro has been going the easy route, keeping the parts count down, and/or just making a lesser product in general. It was one thing for years when Takara and Hasbro would come out with different paint schemes. It was fun to read people's arguments for or against paint schemes, but these toys with actual mold differences take the differences to a whole new level. The Constructicons and Devastator, Blast Off, Groove, Scattershot and Computron as a whole. This new philosophy is interesting and frustrating at the same time.

scattorshot looks cool. new chest.... new guns that can be used to revive the Minicon Gimmick from Armada.... as a stand a lone figure, id buy it.... but i would not want to fork out $400+ on something that i could spend about $70-80 total at Walmart for all the limbs plus scattorshot in which includes Nebraska taxes

Autobot tap out wrote:scattorshot looks cool. new chest.... new guns that can be used to revive the Minicon Gimmick from Armada.... as a stand a lone figure, id buy it.... but i would not want to fork out $400+ on something that i could spend about $70-80 total at Walmart for all the limbs plus scattorshot in which includes Nebraska taxes

He's not $400 for the Japanese version. He's approximately $135 from US online retailers (BBTS, TFsource) and will be even less expensive from international sources like AmiAmi, HLJ, etc. If I recall correctly, I'm getting Unite Warriors Bruticus for just a little over $100 shipped, which is pretty amazing.

MSRP on Hasbro's version is $26.99 for Scattershot and $17.99 for each of the 4 limbs which is $98.95. If you can get them a little cheaper somewhere, not to mention if you can actually find them all at retail, more power to those of you who can.