Age of Extinction short-listed for 2015 Razzies

Not surprised...

The thing that killed AOE for me was the length.

Shorten it and it will definitely be better than The Interview. I mean really, Seth Rogen playing a more serious role? ugh ...

Burn wrote:The thing that killed AOE for me was the length.

Shorten it and it will definitely be better than The Interview. I mean really, Seth Rogen playing a more serious role? ugh ...

lord of rings series is out for you?

most succesful movie of 2014 happen to be worst film interesting enough

I'm just going to put something out there I hope people realize.

Success (In a capitalist sense of the word) does not necessarily equal quality.


Also a transformer movie, unless it's taken dead fucking serious, like a straight up epic drama about the characters, which will never happen, does not need to be that long. There does not need to be 2 Hours and 45 minutes of a disaster movie involving transformers; from the human's perspective.

Way to celebrate the 30th anniversary, Transformers.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:I'm just going to put something out there I hope people realize.

Success (In a capitalist sense of the word) does not necessarily equal quality.

Yup, yup, yup.

that is interesting... haters everywhere. Does anybody remember any of the moves awarded instead of previous transformers movies?

I learned from my games, when you find enemies, you are on the right path.

how could it be one of the worst movies when you have Kelsie Grammar fighting Mark Wahlberg

dragons wrote:lord of rings series is out for you?

I watched the first two Hobbit movies for the first time this weekend. I broke them up by going to the gym, checking my lottery tickets, and a bit of shopping.

Long movies weren't a problem for me until AOE. I shouldn't leave a movie theatre exhausted and tired.

Burn wrote: I shouldn't leave a movie theatre exhausted and tired.

A.O.E was an ass numbing experience in the Theatre.

Burn wrote:Long movies weren't a problem for me until AOE. I shouldn't leave a movie theatre exhausted and tired.

I'd go so far as to say "fatigued and depressed" was my reaction. I swear I didn't like Transformers any more for a little bit.

I agree. It deserves the award. I will not rewatch the last 3 movies because they are terrible movies. They are not bad because I'm a transformers purist. They are bad because they are bad movies.

This doesn't surprise me in the slightest, the movie, even if it gave a liiiiiiiittle more screen time and characterization to the Transformers, still sucked, was overly long(which hurts even more given how much time was wasted on the humans), the product placement was downright obscene and was just another explosion fest.
What really surprised me was the fact they asked the academy to consider it for Oscars, the nerve!
And no, I'm not a Geewuner, I like most of the designs and loooove the toys, but honestly, the movies are bad.

I think in the hands of another director, Tformers could have 'better' movies. They've made truckloads of cash and you can't argue with that, but that doesn't make them 'good' movies. (Phantom Menace made money too, and it's not a good movie by any stretch of the imagination)

It's just that Bay has become too formulaic and predictable with his movies. They're ALL like "Armageddon" and it shows. From the explosions to the music, to the stock characters, it's like Bay and his movie making team are caught in some kind of Groundhog Day time loop in which they (and therefore we) have to relive the same cheesy movie over and over again.

That's not even factoring in the Bay robot designs. There's something about the faces (complete with robotic lips, noses, beards, teeth and tongues) which serve no function - that just bugs me.

How about a new category? Worst fan-based support. After all, critics know everything and expect perfection.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Burn wrote: I shouldn't leave a movie theatre exhausted and tired.

A.O.E was an ass numbing experience in the Theatre.

I saw AOE in theaters, alone, with a big platter of comfort (read: Mexican) food so I could suffer the indignity of it all in solitude.

Not surprised about this at all. This is becoming like a tradition in a way. I wouldn't also be surprised if the new TMNT movie will have it's share of the award. Makes me wonder if TF5 will get the same award even if Bay's no longer on board?

i actually enjoyed the movie. i dunno what these critics were smoking when they saw the film (assuming they've seen it).

Mechastrike wrote:i actually enjoyed the movie. i dunno what these critics were smoking when they saw the film (assuming they've seen it).

Well I mean, it's not whether or not the movie's entertaining, Critics judge these things on personal subjective, yet objective opinions and analysis on whether or not the movies actually competently written, directed, acted, paced; so on and so forth. The Room is one of the most entertaining movies out there, it's just not quality. M-Bay's Transformers can be entertaining, but by no means is it quality entertainment

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Mechastrike wrote:i actually enjoyed the movie. i dunno what these critics were smoking when they saw the film (assuming they've seen it).

Well I mean, it's not whether or not the movie's entertaining, Critics judge these things on personal subjective, yet objective opinions and analysis on whether or not the movies actually competently written, directed, acted, paced; so on and so forth. The Room is one of the most entertaining movies out there, it's just not quality. M-Bay's Transformers can be entertaining, but by no means is it quality entertainment

No, it's completely subjective. Everything they criticize the Transformers movies for is something they overlook pretty much everywhere else. They bash it for the action, explosions, acting, and weak plot, but The Avengers is is just as guilty of all that and I've never heard a word against it. They complain that it's too long, but there are dozens of universally praised movies that are even longer.

Those are valid reasons to dislike a movie, you can't argue against personal opinion. But in order to fairly label it bad it needs to be objectively flawed.

I liked the god damn movies...all four of them. And Im the biggest G1 advocate on this site. The key to enjoying bayformers movies is to keep an open mind and pretend G1 never existed. It also helps to love action and explosions and not give two craps about acting like me. For the record, I never even heard of "Razzies" before reading this article...

Rated X wrote:Im the biggest G1 advocate on this site.

You're the biggest something on this site, but G1 advocate you're not.

Also thought the AOE movie was terrible.

Most of the TF live action movies, I think are terrible.

Thought the CGI done Transformers in AOE was inferior to the previous Three live action TF movies.

hmm. understandable really. I quite liked it. i liked the glimpse of world building we got on Lockdown's ship. i liked the new cast (so much more than the old cast.) but i laughed several times at how ineptly the product placement was handled. chase scene, chase scene, stop everything for a refreshing branded beverage! chase scene, chase scene. repeat. Mr Bay does not do subtlety on any level.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:The Avengers is is just as guilty of all that

Now that's a subjective opinion.

Hate to admit it but I only got around to watching A.O.E. a few days ago, (just no time to watch movies anymore), and I honestly have no problem with any of these nominations. I am kind of P.O.d at all the people who said this movie was as good as the first one because they got my hopes up. OMG it is terrible! There are so many things wrong with this flick but I won't go into it here as it has already been done to death. The only good thing I can say is that at least it was marginally better than Revenge of the Fallen. But it's still one of the worst movies I have seen in a very long time.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:They bash it for the action, explosions, acting, and weak plot, but The Avengers is just as guilty of all that.

THANK YOU!

And I don't think anyone else has ever mentioned (or even noticed) this, but the final fight in the city in The Avengers is very similar to the final fight in Dark of The Moon, if not an outright rip-off.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:They bash it for the action, explosions, acting, and weak plot, but The Avengers is just as guilty of all that.

THANK YOU!

And I don't think anyone else has ever mentioned (or even noticed) this, but the final fight in the city in The Avengers is very similar to the final fight in Dark of The Moon, if not an outright rip-off.

2.32 mark onwards.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:Everything they criticize the Transformers movies for is something they overlook pretty much everywhere else. They complain that it's too long, but there are dozens of universally praised movies that are even longer.

So you can't review a movie without simultaneously reviewing every single movie in existence?

I only watched it a couple of weeks ago myself, and while I did enjoy it as an action movie, I had one major problem with it as a Transformers movie. The way the human-constructed Transformers Transformed. I thought this was meant to be about Transformers, made of solid metal, not liquid metal shapeshifters.

rickdraco wrote:I only watched it a couple of weeks ago myself, and while I did enjoy it as an action movie, I had one major problem with it as a Transformers movie. The way the human-constructed Transformers Transformed. I thought this was meant to be about Transformers, made of solid metal, not liquid metal shapeshifters.

I think that this is more a thing for the thread in which the movie itself is discussed, not this one. I'm too lazy to post a link to the thread. But I'm guessing you're smart enough to find said thread yourself.

RhA wrote:

rickdraco wrote:I only watched it a couple of weeks ago myself, and while I did enjoy it as an action movie, I had one major problem with it as a Transformers movie. The way the human-constructed Transformers Transformed. I thought this was meant to be about Transformers, made of solid metal, not liquid metal shapeshifters.

I think that this is more a thing for the thread in which the movie itself is discussed, not this one. I'm too lazy to post a link to the thread. But I'm guessing you're smart enough to find said thread yourself.

And thus, word came on high from The Banana Stand.

rickdraco wrote:I only watched it a couple of weeks ago myself, and while I did enjoy it as an action movie, I had one major problem with it as a Transformers movie. The way the human-constructed Transformers Transformed. I thought this was meant to be about Transformers, made of solid metal, not liquid metal shapeshifters.

I thought the way KSI made their creations transform make sense in a way because they've just cracked the code to using the same matter that the Cybertronians are made of so it makes sense why they transform that way because it was at the beginning stage. Besides who's to say Galvatron won't eventually transform the old fashioned way in TF5 again but till retain the power to shape shift as an alternate means to escape?

Nominating Kelsey Grammer as worst actor just shows this thing is run by idiots.

If I have to be really honest I don't really listen to what critics say when it comes to certain movies like the TF franchise because in the end if I want to listen to what they say or not I can do that as well as seeing the movie and coming to form my own opinion by myself. I don't have to look up to them as the complete means to see and like what movies they recommend because sometimes what they may think is amazing may not be that amazing and vice versa because sometimes it's all subjective. Especially if some of those critcs go as far as to berate and insult people who dare to like some of what the TF movies have to offer as being immature and having bad taste which is almost hypocritical of them since they accuse Bay of treating his viewers as idiots. (Looking at you Nostalgia Critic.)

Did I somewhat enjoy the movie (5/10 enjoyed it)? Kinda. Is it a bad movie? In my opinion? Yes. And yet, a lot of people believe that if they enjoyed a movie, it is a phenomenal work of art. -_- I'm not even saying this as a Transformers fan. As a major movie buff with my interest spanning musicals, action thrillers, fantasy films, and all around action movies...this movie fails to deliver in whole. I don't know about you guys, but I'm kind of tired of the films focusing on the humans rather than the actual bots and cons. I hate to do this but, LETS COMPARE this to Guardians of the Galaxy and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. Just...IMAGINE if those movies DIDN'T focus primarily on the Guardians OR the Apes. You cannot tell me that you people (Yeah, I said it) are satisfied with the Transformers playing SECOND FIDDLE to the ants in their own movies. Okay, rant over.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:No, it's completely subjective. Everything they criticize the Transformers movies for is something they overlook pretty much everywhere else. They bash it for the action, explosions, acting, and weak plot, but The Avengers is is just as guilty of all that and I've never heard a word against it. They complain that it's too long, but there are dozens of universally praised movies that are even longer. Those are valid reasons to dislike a movie, you can't argue against personal opinion. But in order to fairly label it bad it needs to be objectively flawed.

1. The Avengers excelled in it's characters, action, story, acting, and has fun with itself and is a landmark for cbm movies ALTOGETHER. Let me know when a Transformers film can claim all of the above, minus the latter. 2. The Lord of The Rings Trilogy, Pup Fiction, and the Godfather warranted long running times, as important events were happening practically every scene. Again, let me know when a Transformers film can claim this feat. 3. Practically every movie imaginable is flawed. Yet, what is shown on screen and how it is presented can make a person "forget" or "overlook" said flaws. The content in AOE was obviously not capable of this.

Optimum Supreme wrote:Nominating Kelsey Grammer as worst actor just shows this thing is run by idiots.

It's meant to rile you up, it's provocation with a dash of sarcasm. I don't think they're idiots, they know what they're doing.

megatronus wrote:

RhA wrote:

rickdraco wrote:I only watched it a couple of weeks ago myself, and while I did enjoy it as an action movie, I had one major problem with it as a Transformers movie. The way the human-constructed Transformers Transformed. I thought this was meant to be about Transformers, made of solid metal, not liquid metal shapeshifters.

I think that this is more a thing for the thread in which the movie itself is discussed, not this one. I'm too lazy to post a link to the thread. But I'm guessing you're smart enough to find said thread yourself.

And thus, word came on high from The Banana Stand.

In which not only money, but wisdom too can be found.

Noideaforaname wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:Everything they criticize the Transformers movies for is something they overlook pretty much everywhere else. They complain that it's too long, but there are dozens of universally praised movies that are even longer.

So you can't review a movie without simultaneously reviewing every single movie in existence?

No, I'm saying be fair and unbiased. Why is it Transformers gets so much crap for being mindless action movies and nobody says that about Pacific Rim? Why is a very brief shot of a couple of wrecking ball so offensive that people complained about it for years, but Ted and This is the End were somehow less offensive while being about 1000 times more vulgar? Why is changing their alt modes and colors so horrible, but completely changing everything about Ra's Al Ghul, Joker, and Bane ok? Why is it when Michael Bay is director he's responsible for everything, but when he's one of several producers, suddenly the producer's in charge and everything is now the producers fault.

Because hating Michael Bay has become a pop culture thing and it's easier to blame him than for people to use their brains and see that it's not just him who makes a movie.

Burn wrote:Because hating Michael Bay has become a pop culture thing and it's easier to blame him than for people to use their brains and see that it's not just him who makes a movie.

Good point. We can blame the screenwriters, cinematographers, and editors, too...

Thanks for reminding me about the additionally awful layers that stacked up to make AoE a singularly awful, terrible, and atrocious piece of scrap.

megatronus wrote:

Burn wrote:Because hating Michael Bay has become a pop culture thing and it's easier to blame him than for people to use their brains and see that it's not just him who makes a movie.

Good point. We can blame the screenwriters, cinematographers, and editors, too...

Thanks for reminding me about the additionally awful layers that stacked up to make AoE a singularly awful, terrible, and atrocious piece of scrap.

Still better than anything Uwe Boll has put out.

this movie more than deserves all the hate it gets. The Live-action movies have been on a bad downward slide in quality. AOE was pure ((&^^%%*&(( from beginning to end.

Burn wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Burn wrote:Because hating Michael Bay has become a pop culture thing and it's easier to blame him than for people to use their brains and see that it's not just him who makes a movie.

Good point. We can blame the screenwriters, cinematographers, and editors, too...

Thanks for reminding me about the additionally awful layers that stacked up to make AoE a singularly awful, terrible, and atrocious piece of scrap.

Still better than anything Uwe Boll has put out.

That's less a defense of AoE and more a condemnation of Uwe Boll.

But hey, it was good for a laugh!

Uwe Boll movies deserve something other than condemnation?

Burn wrote:Uwe Boll movies deserve something other than condemnation?

Repeat viewings by Orci&Kurtzman and Simon Furman as they're bound to chairs.

If there is one category that Paramount and Michael Bay's Transformers movies can be recognised as succeeding by most fans, it's in the visual effects departments. And it seems as though the industry also agrees, as we know from ComingSoon.net: Age of Extinction has been nominated for the 13th Annual VES Awards, in the Outstanding Models in any Motion Media Project category! Read a bit below, and find out more about other nominees here.

“Visual effects in and by themselves are nothing unless they serve the story,” said Jeffrey A. Okun, VES Chair. “This year, more than ever, we are seeing amazing work that not only serves the story but tells the story in a manner never before seen. The VES Awards is proud that we are the only organization that showcases and honors these amazing artists in depth and across a wide range of fields. We are extremely proud of our nominees!”

[...]

Outstanding Models in any Motion Media Project

TRANSFORMERS: AGE OF EXTINCTION; Knightship
Landis Fields
John Goodson
Anthony Rispoli
Dae Han

well, im not surprised.

Some of the effects in AoE are mind blowing but i noticed a series of really odd errors in the first half of the film. Whenever cars are in the middle distance (as opposed to close up) they're empty. No drivers, no passengers. I assume these cars are CGI but it's a really strange oversight as it would have taken them no time at all to stick a virtual mannequin in the seats to make a silhouette against the ever present sunset on the farm.

I hope AoE sweeps at the Razzies just to throw it in all the haters' faces.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I hope AoE sweeps at the Razzies just to throw it in all the haters' faces.

Yes, I m happy for it too, they should use this to lawsue Razzies, and teach a lesson to all those haters

The final nominations are out and Optimus Prime riding Grimlock is leading the charge as Transformers:Age of Extinction leads The 2015 Razzies Nomination list with SEVEN nominations.

The full list of nominees is as follows:

Worst Picture
• Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas
• Left Behind
• The Legend of Hercules
• Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
• Transformers: Age of Extinction

Worst Actor
• Kirk Cameron - Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas
• Nicolas Cage - Left Behind
• Kellan Lutz - The Legend of Hercules
• Seth MacFarlane - A Million Ways to Die in the West
• Adam Sandler - Blended

Worst Supporting Actor
• Mel Gibson - The Expendables 3
• Kelsey Grammer - The Expendables 3, Legends of Oz, Think Like a Man Too, Transformers: Age of Extinction
• Shaquille O'Neal - Blended
• Arnold Schwarzenegger - The Expendables 3
• Kiefer Sutherland - Pompeii

Worst Actress
• Drew Barrymore - Blended
• Cameron Diaz - The Other Woman and Sex Tape
• Melissa McCarthy - Tammy
• Charlize Theron - A Million Ways to Die in the West
• Gaia Weiss - The Legend of Hercules

Worst Supporting Actress
• Cameron Diaz - Annie
• Megan Fox - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
• Nicola Peltz - Transformers: Age of Extinction
• Susan Sarandon - Tammy
• Brigitte Ridenour (nee Cameron) - Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas

Worst Director
• Michael Bay - Transformers: Age of Extinction
• Darren Doane - Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas
• Renny Harlin - The Legend of Hercules
• Jonathan Liebesman - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
• Seth MacFarlane - A Million Ways to Die in the West

Worst Remake, Rip-off or Sequel
• Annie
• Atlas Shrugged: Who Is John Galt?
• The Legend of Hercules
• Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
• Transformers: Age of Extinction

Worst Screen Combo
• Any Two Robots, Actors (Robotic Actors) - Transformers: Age of Extinction
• Kirk Cameron and His Ego - Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas
• Cameron Diaz and Jason Segel - Sex Tape
• Kellan Lutz and Either His Abs, His Pecs or His Glutes - The Legend of Hercules
• Seth MacFarlane and Charlize Theron - A Million Ways to Die in the West

Worst Screenplay
• Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas
• Left Behind
• Sex Tape
• Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
• Transformers: Age of Extinction

Redeemer Award
• Ben Affleck - from Gigli to Argo and Gone Girl
• Jennifer Aniston - from four-time Razzie nominee to Cake
• Mike Myers - from The Love Guru to directing Supermensch
• Keanu Reeves - from six-time Razzie nominee to John Wick
• Kristen Stewart - from six-time Razzie winner for Twilight to Camp X-Ray