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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:09 pm
by Tuned Agent
ZeroWolf wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:50 Mil for a Transformers film does seem really low...

Hmm I wonder if there was a mistake somewhere as that's lower then Bumblebee's budget, which was the smallest of the live action films.

I had the same thought. Are we sure this isn't the animated movie?

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:21 pm
by NORDICFROST
Hiring a low IQ director who needs a translator is not going to work. No hope for this film.

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:22 pm
by AllNewSuperRobot
Indeed. A quick google search reveals a $50 million budget for an animated film equates to The Iron Giant.

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:03 pm
by Rodimus Prime
ZeroWolf wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:also Rodimus, what was said that indicates to you that it will be a bad movie?
Just the whole image they're projecting right now. And I'm saying this about both the announced so far projects. Seems like they have a certain message in mind which started with the Bumblebee movie and is continued here. I did end up seeing that film and it was a wash for me, so I have no hopes for these. I'm happy so see we're getting away from the Bay versions, less military focus is better, but less human focus would also be better.

A certain message in mind?
Yes. Seems like they're taking the same road Disney is taking with their new movies and shows.
Also we're never going to get less human focused movie other then the cgi prequel they're doing. That's just the nature of the Beast at the moment.
Just because it's the less horrible of 2 choices that doesn't make it good quality. But we'll see, I guess. I just know I'm tired if the stories being centered on people. If the Bumblebee movie he less human time and more Bee and Cons time, it would have been pretty good. I certainly didn't miss all the Bay circus.

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:26 pm
by Brokebot
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:50 Mil for a Transformers film does seem really low...


Hand puppets and stop-motion with the toys. It'll be great. >:oP

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:33 pm
by -Kanrabat-
Brokebot wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:50 Mil for a Transformers film does seem really low...


Hand puppets and stop-motion with the toys. It'll be great. >:oP


You damn ninja! [-(

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:41 pm
by Deadput
Ah yeah this film is going to suck so much with all that information we know about the film...

Ah...yeah, there's little to no confirmed/official information about this movie to make any kind of reasonable guess on how it's going to be one way or another.

If it's live action, it's going to have humans in it and that will be the reality for the rest of our life spans, also I personally would like to get back to Earth and have some good human/Transformer interactions since the last several years of Transformers media has literally just been almost entirely Transformers in boring situations that can be accomplished by any human character.

Cyberverse didn't have them in any important capacity, same with the Battlegrounds game.

The mediocre Transformers Netflix stuff which further proves that Cybertron is best as a background set piece instead of a main location because Cybertron as a planet is so dull at this point and needs a major revamp like having different biomes or something.

The new IDW continuity which is also pretty dull although has interesting concepts like actually having other species around.

Literally the kids show has been the most interesting/entertaining thing.

The only hope for some people is an animated only Cybertron film, which is probably not even going to be what anybody would want anyways and likely a rehash of the same old Cybertron backstories we have been getting, why is it that almost every single Cybertron origin story is almost entirely the same regardless of the series it's part of? I don't even want a Cybertron movie unless people actually do something interesting and new with the setting and premise.


Just wait and see, that's all anybody has to do, wait for a trailer or wait for a review, there is no flawless or magical director/actor that is going to magically make the next Transformers film the greatest thing ever, at best expect a MCU type movie.

Director/Actor that isn't that good of a person? Yeah that sucks, but does it actually matter in the end in regards to the actual film as long as they do their job competently?

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:16 pm
by Sabrblade
Deadput wrote:also I personally would like to get back to Earth and have some good human/Transformer interactions since the last several years of Transformers media has literally just been almost entirely Transformers in boring situations that can be accomplished by any human character.

Cyberverse didn't have them in any important capacity, same with the Battlegrounds game.

The mediocre Transformers Netflix stuff which further proves that Cybertron is best as a background set piece instead of a main location because Cybertron as a planet is so dull at this point and needs a major revamp like having different biomes or something.

The new IDW continuity which is also pretty dull although has interesting concepts like actually having other species around.

Literally the kids show has been the most interesting/entertaining thing.
Rescue Bots Academy?

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:46 pm
by Deadput
Legit forgot about that show but to be fair I also haven't watched it like the other one so I can't make a comment there.


I just miss characters like Spike/Sparkplug/Carly/Chip or Sari who were likeable characters on par if not even more so than many Transformers.

Heck I even enjoyed some of the humans in previous films like Epps/Lennox/Simmons

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:48 pm
by Sabrblade
Deadput wrote:Legit forgot about that show but to be fair I also haven't watched it like the other one so I can't make a comment there.


I just miss characters like Spike/Sparkplug/Carly/Chip or Sari who were likeable characters on par if not even more so than many Transformers.

Heck I even enjoyed some of the humans in previous films like Epps/Lennox/Simmons
The first Rescue Bots show had some of the best human partners in TF cartoon history.

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:10 pm
by Deadput
Sabrblade wrote:The first Rescue Bots show had some of the best human partners in TF cartoon history.

It did and their among the human characters I like amongst a few select others here and there, but that show is also not a recent one either.

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:23 pm
by First-Aid
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The first Rescue Bots show had some of the best human partners in TF cartoon history.

It did and their among the human characters I like amongst a few select others here and there, but that show is also not a recent one either.


Sorry, Raf, Mike, and Jack take the cake. Sari is second to this group.

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:31 pm
by -Kanrabat-
First-Aid wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The first Rescue Bots show had some of the best human partners in TF cartoon history.

It did and their among the human characters I like amongst a few select others here and there, but that show is also not a recent one either.


Sorry, Raf, Mike, and Jack take the cake. Sari is second to this group.


Call it blasphemy, but I wouldn't mind a live action movie heavily inspired by Animated. Make it a stand alone trilogy for perfection. Like Movie 1 would be Season 1, Movie 2 is season 2, and the final 3rd movie would be the Lost Chapter that can finally be told.

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:51 pm
by Sabrblade
-Kanrabat- wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The first Rescue Bots show had some of the best human partners in TF cartoon history.

It did and their among the human characters I like amongst a few select others here and there, but that show is also not a recent one either.


Sorry, Raf, Mike, and Jack take the cake. Sari is second to this group.


Call it blasphemy, but I wouldn't mind a live action movie heavily inspired by Animated. Make it a stand alone trilogy for perfection. Like Movie 1 would be Season 1, Movie 2 is season 2, and the final 3rd movie would be the Lost Chapter that can finally be told.
Why wouldn't the third movie just be Season 3?

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:03 pm
by -Kanrabat-
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The first Rescue Bots show had some of the best human partners in TF cartoon history.

It did and their among the human characters I like amongst a few select others here and there, but that show is also not a recent one either.


Sorry, Raf, Mike, and Jack take the cake. Sari is second to this group.


Call it blasphemy, but I wouldn't mind a live action movie heavily inspired by Animated. Make it a stand alone trilogy for perfection. Like Movie 1 would be Season 1, Movie 2 is season 2, and the final 3rd movie would be the Lost Chapter that can finally be told.
Why wouldn't the third movie just be Season 3?


You know perfectly what I meant. If you want to split hair, let's say Movie 1 is half of what was done in Animated minus the fluff. Movie 2 is the second half. Movie 3 is what was planned but never made.

Is that clearer?

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:11 pm
by Sabrblade
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The first Rescue Bots show had some of the best human partners in TF cartoon history.

It did and their among the human characters I like amongst a few select others here and there, but that show is also not a recent one either.


Sorry, Raf, Mike, and Jack take the cake. Sari is second to this group.


Call it blasphemy, but I wouldn't mind a live action movie heavily inspired by Animated. Make it a stand alone trilogy for perfection. Like Movie 1 would be Season 1, Movie 2 is season 2, and the final 3rd movie would be the Lost Chapter that can finally be told.
Why wouldn't the third movie just be Season 3?


You know perfectly what I meant. If you want to split hair, let's say Movie 1 is half of what was done in Animated minus the fluff. Movie 2 is the second half. Movie 3 is what was planned but never made.

Is that clearer?
You wouldn't want the climax of the first film to be that epic return of Megatron from the first season's finale?

If you want a Season 4 movie, just add one more to make it a quadrilogy. Problem solved. ;)^

(in the meantime, you could also read Trial & Error, if you wanted)

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:14 pm
by Deadput
First-Aid wrote:Sorry, Raf, Mike, and Jack take the cake. Sari is second to this group.


Raf is a plot device who is somehow smarter than most Transformers, humans and is somehow able to understand Bumblebee at age 12 or whatever which no actual kid IRL would be able to do the things he does and even most adults, Miko was annoying most of the time, kept on repeating mistakes as well as forgetting most lessons she learned until the very end of the show, and Jack was bland discount Witwicky with little character progression or personality.

Their not awful characters and they were indeed cool characters initially but I really dislike them when it comes to how their written and how their developed in the show in the long run as a whole, but that is a general part of Transformers Prime as a whole being a gigantic disappointment to me and in my eyes was mostly responsible for the current stale status of the franchise because aligned failed due to to the show makers ruining things behind the scenes.

Fowler was great though, no complaints there.

Still think Sari as well as Transformers Animated in general blows TFP out of the water in pretty much every aspect besides the visuals on first impressions, visuals which don't matter for TFP in the end when every environment is barren and devoid of any life that isn't the main characters.

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:32 pm
by -Kanrabat-
Sabrblade wrote:You wouldn't want the climax of the first film to be that epic return of Megatron from the first season's finale?

If you want a Season 4 movie, just add one more to make it a quadrilogy. Problem solved. ;)^



Well, I'm pretty sure that if we forget some human villains ever existed and cut some filler, we could easily make 3 great movies.

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:04 am
by TulioDude
First-Aid wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The first Rescue Bots show had some of the best human partners in TF cartoon history.

It did and their among the human characters I like amongst a few select others here and there, but that show is also not a recent one either.


Sorry, Raf, Mike, and Jack take the cake. Sari is second to this group.


Who dares to put Miko above Sari?

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:27 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
Wouldn't Sari technically be a Micromaster?

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:28 am
by -Kanrabat-
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Wouldn't Sari technically be a Micromaster?


I headcanon her as a headmaster who still have to find her transtechtor body. 8-)

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:37 am
by Sabrblade
-Kanrabat- wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Wouldn't Sari technically be a Micromaster?


I headcanon her as a headmaster who still have to find her transtechtor body. 8-)
If the season 4 rumors are to be believed, she would have been subtly alluded (as in, implied but never stated outright to keep the fans guessing and discussing) to being a time-displaced Maximal protoform from the future.

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:38 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
To quote Joe... EWWWW

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:40 am
by Sabrblade
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:To quote Joe... EWWWW
Well, every Cybertronian in Animated was born a protoform. This would have just accounted for Sari's small size and ability to scan an organic lifeform.

Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:42 am
by AllNewSuperRobot
I really hope the Beast Wars doesn't enter this Live Action universe. Use Cheetor out of context, ala Cyberverse. Sure. Just leave the rest alone.